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post #5141 of 9175 (permalink) Old 08-10-2012, 03:44 PM
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I just don't see why a fanatic would care about buys and ratings. It doesn't affect who is the most entertaining in the business, so why bother arguing over which wrestler draw more or lamenting a .01 drop in the ratings?
Some people like following the pitch and roll of the business and enjoy seeing what works and what doesn't. I'll agree that taking ratings as dogma is a mistake and I'm not fond of the idea that you should ignore live reactions, but ratings do give you good feedback on how the company is reaching people. It's the same as watching box office results and seeing why "Batman The Dark Knight Rises" has been a disappointment (despite earning a shitton of money) versus why its predecessors were considered such successes. It's an interesting thing to talk about, provided you understand the limitations of your data, and that there are things you aren't seeing.
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post #5142 of 9175 (permalink) Old 08-11-2012, 01:01 AM
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post #5143 of 9175 (permalink) Old 08-11-2012, 01:22 PM
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Are people really surprised by the numbers though? I mean, the WWE has proven it can't write a solid, long running story line so more and more fans are just tuning out? The only reason the 1000th episode did anything was for the nostalgia... we wanted to see some old faces and remember the days when the WWE didn't have an idiot in charge. Sad to think the supposed genius is the same damn idiot now... oi.

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post #5144 of 9175 (permalink) Old 08-11-2012, 03:23 PM
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A segment involving Lesnar, HBK and HHH only did a 3.45? and only gained 250'000?

this angle has no heat. Yes they weren't advertised but still, people and notify other people, they should of done way more then that.
Right. It's a pretty shitty excuse. Yes advertising it more would have helped a little bit, but not by much despite what people keep preaching. This is a shitty rating for these three. Then again Lesnar hasn't been a TV draw since coming back anyway so no real surprise. This angle, just like Rock/Cena, isn't doing much as far as ratings go. At least not as much as it should.






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Right. It's a pretty shitty excuse. Yes advertising it more would have helped a little bit, but not by much despite what people keep preaching. This is a shitty rating for these three. Then again Lesnar hasn't been a TV draw since coming back anyway so no real surprise. This angle, just like Rock/Cena, isn't doing much as far as ratings go. At least not as much as it should.
Rock/Cena was the most promoted match probably in WWE history. It got built for a whole year. A year. WWE didn't even advertise the fact that Brock, HBK, or HHH were going to be on this show and a random 'Oh btw, guess who's here next!!' promo at the top of the hour doesn't count. Ridiculous comparison. Rock/Cena disappointed with a bazillion times the promotion behind it than HHH/Lesnar. The latter, outside the arm break and Raw 1000 segments, has just been a disappointment all together. Why? Because outside of said segments, WWE has failed to follow even the most basic rules of advertising, promotion and their old favorite, feud building/story telling. Advertising it more would have helped more than a little bit. Don't be stupid. If people who don't follow every week don't know top names are going to be on a particular show, they don't watch. Seems like your butthurt/bias/whatever you want to call it against Brock Lesnar, for whatever reason that you have it in the first place, is clouding your judgment when it comes to him.
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It Pat Patterson still around backstage to help with angles & whatnot?
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I really don't think it matters who they have back there so long as Vince makes the final call. Until that changes, nothing changes.
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I really don't think it matters who they have back there so long as Vince makes the final call. Until that changes, nothing changes.
That's why I'm asking because it used to be Pat & Vince that did everything & if Pat isn't around anymore, that puts a lot more pressure & workload onto a Vince McMahon that isn't getting any younger. Thus, he might be tempted to push a lot of the shit he usually overseas, onto other people like Hayes or Stephanie.

I know Pat used to lay out all the Rumbles, but when he stopped you could noticeably see the difference in the matches. They made less sense.
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Vince seems to have his hand in too many things. He can't be a creative genius if he only dedicates say 20% of his time to creative. That's what the creative team is there for, to work on creative for the 80% of the time when he's doing all the other things he has to do but what seems to happen is that Vince does his shit, gets everybody else to do their shit and then when it's presented to him, uses the little time he has dedicated to okaying things to completely change everything and the end result is actual shit for a product. So many former writers have said the exact same thing, former wrestlers, current wrestlers and even Stephanie and HHH have both said it too, that's he's basically spread too thin and that he makes ALL the decisions. Like I said before, until that changes, nothing changes.
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It Pat Patterson still around backstage to help with angles & whatnot?
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