the audience popped for Lesnar bigger than Ambrose in the opening segment, though Ambrose did get a good pop.
but then when he got laid out, u had the crowd chanting YES, which was strange
then in the 2nd segment in the 2nd half of the show, Ambrose had silence throughout his promo, Lesnar got a huge pop again and Reigns as usual silence.
But when Lesnar was destroying Ambrose, the crowd was cheering, then when Ambrose low blowed Lesnar the crowd booed
Is WWE trying to use Lesnar to bring heat on Ambrose? Ambrose looked heel.. in fact even Reigns did in that segment.
Dean looked good in that segment. They built him as a total tough guy, but everyone gets dominated by Lesnar. The low blow after continuously standing up to Brock's assault also showed that he's willing to do everything it takes to put the beast down.
Don't know why people think Dean should be booked up against Brock like Reigns is. He's clearly smaller so you take a route that doesn't destroy the sense of believability.
Re: Boos for Ambrose tonight... Is WWE trying to give him heat on purpose?
Ambrose's low blow definitely got booed.
That whole segment was weird because I was trying to figure out the point of it. I know that they're going with the narrative of Ambrose takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin', but all they're accomplishing is making Ambrose look like a weakling. A brave weakling, but a weakling nonetheless. It was like, okay, maybe the audience was feeling it when Ambrose continued to challenge Lesnar. Admirable to show that much courage. But then Ambrose commits what many would consider a cowardly move with the low blow, and then bails. I figured he'd at least get a Dirty Deeds in there, but he didn't.
My sense is that slowly they're exposing parts of Ambrose's character that are a bit heelish. He showed more cockiness and more of a mean streak in his interview with Cole. He insisted he didn't need Reigns' help against Lesnar...and then when he got help, he joked to Reigns that he had it all taken care of himself. He went with the desperate low blow, which again is a heel tactic. Maybe I'm just being paranoid and looking too deep into this, but I feel as though they're introducing aspects to Ambrose's character that would be considered unsavory to the casual crowd, building up to Ambrose turning against Reigns out of jealousy. Ambrose's face heat will absolutely be sacrificed if Vince deems it necessary to keep Reigns from having to turn. Whether that's actually what's unfolding is up for debate.
Edit to add: There's also the matter of Steph telling Ambrose in the backstage segment that Reigns keeps stealing his spotlight. Looks like perhaps the seeds are being planted.
That sit-down interview with Heyman, Lesnar, and Reigns the night after the Rumble last year is one of the most over-rated WWE segments, by some fans, in the past few years, IMO of course. Just wanted to say that given where this discussion has gone.
Ambrose/Lesnar the last 2 weeks has been better than anything that happened in the whole Reigns/Lesnar build from last year, again IMO of course.
I'm living in a world where Dean Ambrose is having beef with Brock Lesnar. :banderas Still seems surreal. I'd like to see Ambrose get more than a low blow on him, but that's coming eventually. At least I would hope so.
He didn't get booed, but it was a stupid ending with just the Low Blow, should have thrown in a Dirty Deeds in there at least.
Very memorable stuff before that though, with Ambrose inviting Brock back in the ring after getting the shit beat out of him. Ambrose's facial expression made it EPIC as shit and the crowd popped HUGE for it.
Very memorable stuff before that though, with Ambrose inviting Brock back in the ring after getting the shit beat out of him. Ambrose's facial expression made it EPIC as shit and the crowd popped HUGE for it.
it's just more ambrose is this crazy b+ player stuff. he got to look cool, but got beat up by a top level guy. a level vince won't allow him to ever reach.
This is how Ambrose should be booked. A tweener. He's always had heel traits, I think that makes him seem more human hence being more over than Reigns.
Am I the only one that is sensing a Reigns heel turn. They are making it too obvious with the 'little brother' stuff that they are putting the focus on a potential Ambrose turn but I got a sneaky suspicion that this whole lack of Reigns thing is a set up..... Or maybe they're just trying to take the focus off Reigns for a while so he's not as over exposed.
Anyhoo, at least it's interesting... a set up from the usual shit.
Ambrose got some boos for the low blow but that's it. The crowd was "oooo"ing a lot during his segment so contrary to popular belief, the crowd wasn't silent. Hell, he actually got a small pop when his music hit for his second appearance of the night and it's rare for anyone to get that. However during the opener he easily got the third biggest reaction of the night, only behind Bryan and Lesnar. (Well, unless Sandow's reaction on Superstars was as big as some people on Twitter made it out to be <_<)
But at the end of the day the way I look at it, the crowd wasn't booing Ambrose as much as they were booing Lesnar getting cheapshotted. Lesnar was simply more over than Ambrose and the crowd reflected that throughout the night.
Re: Boos for Ambrose tonight... Is WWE trying to give him heat on purpose?
I thought that the crowd cheered the low blow because it was funny. Don't remember boos, but Lesnar did get the biggest face reaction of the three.
When Dean got up in Lesnar's face that would have been the time to boo him, but they didn't do it then, so when else? They were into the confrontation.
What it seems to me, at least with this crowd, is that the crowd was more for Lesnar, but didn't have a problem with Ambrose.
Of course the whole thing was designed to egg on Brock tearing shit up, and people absolutely love that.
Lesnar was more over, but I didn't sense a dislike for Ambrose at all. He was probably the second most over of the night (obviously not counting Bryan).
I loved Steph's shit stirring grin when she was like "my job is done here", by the way.
Re: Boos for Ambrose tonight... Is WWE trying to give him heat on purpose?
Fans actually marked for Dean when he beckoned Lesnar to return after the 2nd F5. Brock is simply so intense that if the audience has a pulse, he's over. To answer your question though, yes. Dean is supposed to look weak and awkward. It's one less obstacle for them to book around considering he's not the guy they want being ridiculously over. You'll never hear Stephanie attempt to goad fans into chanting for Dean. The intent is to absolutely make him look like a weenie and ensure he's lukewarm heading into Fastlane.
Re: Boos for Ambrose tonight... Is WWE trying to give him heat on purpose?
Yeah, I heard 'em too. That generally happens when you low blow a wrestler that the crowd REALLY likes.
But anyways, my problem with that whole thing was that Ambrose was talking a load of smack about how he wants to get back at Lesnar and once he gets his shit pushed in again, he just low bows him and runs away like a heel. I mean, I get that you want to establish that a force like Lesnar needs to be taken down by unconventional means but him feeling smug and proud of himself for such a bitch move left me baffled.
I get that you want to establish that a force like Lesnar needs to be taken down by unconventional means but him feeling smug and proud of himself for such a bitch move left me baffled.
Besides the promo, not at all. Lesnar only exposed Ambrose's weak and terrible offense. It's about time he fought people that won't sell those pussy punches.
Didn't you hear. Wwe is dead set on making the roster look like Lesnars bitch. No one is allowed to get any meaningful offense in on him. Disgusting that no one is complaining about that useless cancer.
I liked everything until the low blow and bail. If he had done more after the nut shot I would have been OK with it but him just leaving the ring after that didn't make much sense. He should have at least hit Dirty Deeds on him. He should have waited till Brock turned around kicked him in the stomach then hit the D.D. I think if they had done it that way instead the crowd would have popped pretty big time.
I really enjoyed the way Ambrose was booked up till the low blow...yeah that didn't make any sense. But Ambrose really got some character development and in recent weeks he has actually felt and looked like a lunatic. That sick smile and egging Brock on to beat him up even more made me mark .
That's the thing, he finally lived up to his moniker. Tbh people on twitter and youtube loved the way he was booked, they ate that shit up. He trended multiple time last night too.
I honestly think the WWE has no idea what the "plan" is right now. I mean the plan is HHH/Reigns for the title at WM 32. But on how they get there between now and WM I think they are playing week by week with ZERO plan. Other than right now the plan is to "hide" Reigns behind Ambrose/Lesnar/and Heyman.
So right now Ambrose just gets to do all the interacting with Lesnar b/c the WWE doesn't care if he gets boo'd or not. I personally had no problem with Ambrose's booking last night. And when it comes to being put up against Lesnar the live crowd reactions are usually off for anyone. Taker even got boo'd up against Lesnar.
The low blow got a mixed reaction, not straight boos but that comes with the action. Taker got blatantly booed for doing it last summer.
Anyways, I think a lot of people are missing the point of the whole segment. Ambrose showed that he had the balls to do what no one has in a long while. He continuously insulted and provoked Lesnar, got out of the ring to initiate a brawl with him, taking hit after hit and not only getting up every time but persuading Lesnar to do more and, like any street smart person would do in a confrontation like this, saw an opportunity to strike and took it.
The moral behind the low blow basically was to keep your eye on your opponent at all times. Ambrose saw a golden opportunity to get Lesnar back like he said he would and he did just that. I would've preferred a Dirty Deeds afterwards as well, but hey we can't have everything that we want. I also wish he would've no sold Roman completely but whatever. Anyways, the segment did exactly what it was supposed to and I'm liking the Ambrose that we're seeing. Reckless but cunning at the same time. Hope he sticks around for good.
Re: Boos for Ambrose tonight... Is WWE trying to give him heat on purpose?
I didn't hear any boos for Ambrose, but the crowd was kinda flat for the final segment which would've helped it greatly if they were more into it. Lesnar got by far the biggest pop but tbf even his reaction was milder than usual. I don't know, something felt off about the execution
it's always the crowd's fault aint it? that excuse never fails to get used. i know i've haven't been this uninspired by wwe wrestling since the mid 90's when it was pure shit. must have been the crowd's fault back then too.
Reigns kinda feels like a third wheel in this angle. I mean they have him looking almost scared in the Lesnar segments, while Ambrose is the one with balls who stands up to the Beast.
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