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How can you take any divas on Raw seriously after watching Sasha vs Bayley?

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#1 ·
How can you take any divas on Raw seriously after watching Sasha vs Bayley ironwoman match. The main roster divas just cant top that as Vince just wont let them put on a show like the NXT divas get to do. Its sad to see main roster divas get watered down and treated like crap when the NXT divas get so much more and look like real womens wrestlers. Vince is an idiot and HHH needs to takeover the main roster and bring the booking there for the divas
 
#2 ·
The thing is, 90% of the people are uninterested in the diva's for their ring work. It's like guy's that read Playboy Magazine for the articles... I mean some do it but let's be honest here. That being said, if the ring work is good it's always a plus, but that's really only a fraction of what gets them over (the main thing still being "hotness") so the other diva's aren't going anywhere any time soon lol. Not to discredit either of the ladies too, both are amazing talents, but let's not over exaggerate here.
 
#5 ·
I haven't taken the divas division on the Main Roster seriously in a long-time OP. And outside of the first couple weeks after the recent call-up I still do not.



That is all fine and well and would be 1000% accurate 10 years ago, but that is the audience that the WWE has completely driven away and is not getting back over the past 10 years. The people that are left that make-up the WWE's current audience for the most part are kids and their parents and hardcore wrestling fans, with the old "casuals" watching for car crash TV and T&A left as the minority now actually.

The kids and their parents section care very little about seeing "hot women" on their wrestling program, and where as the hardcore wrestling fans don't mind seeing "hot women" on their tv screens, when they are watching pro-wrestling they tend to care more about their talents as a pro-wrestler.

It is the year 2015 and most everyone has the internet, so if all you want to see is hot women walking around in little to no clothes plenty of options to see that out there, I do not need to watch pro-wrestling/sports entertainment to see it. If the WWE actually want the 2 bigger groups of their current audience to take the divas on the main roster seriously then WWE creative themselves need to start taking it seriously.
 
#3 ·
If WWE's main show took the time to develop their characters and build their matches to a point where I would actually want to see them, then it would be easy.

People don't seem to realize that alot of what makes NXT so much better than the main show is how its booked.
 
#14 ·
.......... The NXT Women's champion is the true figurehead of "The Revolution".
i felt a little like this too already in front of the main event.
in nxt divas are not eyecandy or treated like it. they are human people with human wishes.
...you are stil not me ....
....you think you have something....
ladies , ladies

great promo with litte words
 
#6 ·
Its really a problem with the main show as a whole. As much as we cant take Divas seriously on Raw, we cant take the world champ very seriously either or a dozen other angles on the main show fpalm.
 
#7 ·
Real womens wrestling only excists in NXT. No wonder everyone dreads the call up as they know what their in for. I fucking hate Vince there are so many talented woman on the main roster that can be like the NXT divas competing in better matches and fans do actually care. Vince just likes to play the fuckery with everyone
 
#10 ·
I HATE to be the bubble burster here. But nothing those girl did last night Nattie, Alicia, or a few of the other girls cudn't do. What makes NXT strong is its booking and the freedom they give the girls to build characters, tell stories, and put on great matches. That why u haven't seen Sasha do anything of that caliber on the MR.

People are so quick to say "SASHA AND BAYLEY ARE THE SECOND COMING AND SAVIORS OF THE DIVISION" But we've seen this b4 over and over again. Amazing girls from NXT make it to the MR and get MASSIVELY slowed. Summer Rae (lets no forget SHE was the one who put Sasha on), Emma, Paige...all girls that were supposed to make a MAJOR difference on the MR and fizzled. Not because they weren't good, but because booking and creative.
 
#11 ·
Like it or not Vince McMahon is set in his ways so there is no use complaining about it unfortunately, he won't change and women's wrestling will never change on RAW or the main roster until he is no longer running things.

So while I love Sasha and Bayley among others to bits for what they have done on NXT, lets not forget the real reason why the main roster and the Diva's revolution sucks so badly.

Its not the roster that's for sure.
 
#16 ·
I don't, and I haven't for a long time. How they're packaged, presented and promoted on the main roster is totally insulting.

And this is just a personal thing, but I really don't give a shit about Total Divas. So the constant blaring of "She's the/they're the stars of Total Divas!" doesn't do anything from me and further produces apathy. Storylines that are based off of TD storylines don't do anything for me either. I guess I understand why they do it, but cutting out the portion of the audience that doesn't watch that show greatly bothers me.
 
#18 ·
I think it's a little unfair to say it to be honest. Until the main roster DIVAs get a chance to do something similar to the NXT women then it's very unfair to compare it. It's no shock that those on NXT who have come to the main roster have failed to make the same impact, and no, it's not because people have suddenly seen the light and realized they aren't as good as originally thought. It's because the booking is absolutely shocking in comparison.

I'm not denying that Sasha/Bayley put on a wonderful match because they did, but when the main roster DIVAs get proper storyline development, proper character development, actual feuds, television main events, promo main events and PPV main events come back to the discussion and it'll be a valid one. Right now, it isn't because the packaging and presentation of women in the two shows is completely different.
 
#27 ·
The whole answer to the question can be summed up like this, the main roster creative team basically book the divas in such a way that you think you're watching teenage girls bicker in segments instead of grown women.

We're subjected to writers from Hollywood reality television, you think they'll improve but eventually your hopes sink down unless you are optimistic.
 
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I understand the better matches must be on NXT because is the flagship show of the network.
While Raw and Smackdown are now the secondary shows, although they will NEVER say it.

Besides I'm not fans of those two so they can have all the excellent matches they want, because I don't care.
 
#39 ·
Alicia can do? LMAO. Alicia is a horrible pro wrestler. She botches her finisher 95% of the time. Don't ever mention her with the elite like Kana, Nattie, Sasha, and Becky. WTF. Nikki is a super slow and goofy worker.
 
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#41 · (Edited)
Honestly I felt a major lack of draw on Smackdown. I just don't see how anyone can like the Divas division on RAW/SD, can like it, when everyone including Stephanie has said the division sucks cause of Bellas and all the old dawgs.

Bellas, Foxy, and even Nattie, they just need to get out. They have absolutely NOTHING left to offer this division except holding back all the other girls.

Our only hope is Daniel Bryan grows a sac again, and knocks Brie Bella up, cause by time of Royal Rumble she will be burnt out again and get baby fever and want out, again.


I hate to say but its true. Every time I see the Raw divas, I just feel/know they are holding back division. I think Layla knew the time had come, everyone minus Paige and Naomi, no one else was getting any real time or push anyway. So they sat all year, then 3 of the baddest bitches ever show up. Naomi and Nattie should stay, they have capability of expanding on their game.
 
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