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John Cena Open challenge benefits no one but John Cena

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#1 · (Edited)
I just dont get the excitement around Cena is elevating nothing I dont get people bragging about good matches yes I dont deny his in ring ability his very sloppy at times but he can go but his title reign is doing nothing but just hurting the midcard division its not working out.

•Hes a face calling out people it just does not work people brag that he put on a good matches how strong his opponent look then what happens the following week ohh yea they back to jobbing. Compare this to Angle Olympic invitational where we had an arrogant cocky boastful heel who most wanted to see lose then Cena challenge is nothing John Cena himself got a huge rub almost beating Angle in his debut.

•There is nothing impressive about taking John Cena to the limit because that is what every wrestler has done for the past ten years only for him to kick out of multiple finishers and with one AA call your grand mother cause thats all she wrote.

•110% we all know he will win whats the point of watching no one looks strong almost beating John Cena just go ask Damien Sandow, The miz, Ryback, Wade Barret and Bray Wyatt and now Rusev that question.

•There are no midcarder that would pin CAPTAIN AMERICA John Cena it wont be a clean victory and it wont be in Mr Open Us Challenge Iwinlol it will happen in a triple threat or something screwy I guarantee you and once he lose the title the new holder of the title will be jobbing on free television so tell me again how is Cena elevating the title the midcard just looks even more crappy because no one believes even for a second Cena will lose his crappy challenge.
 
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#67 ·
I was gonna say, Kevin Owens, Neville and Sami Zayn were just as popular as they were prior to Cena's little ego episodes. It reminds me a late 40's dad challenging his 20 year old sons to try and prove his dominance, it is just sad really.

Everyone like me begs for Cena to just quit and walk away. He is ruining the company and the entire system from top card to bottom card, just like Hulk did. As long as "cena the brand" can't be hurt, Cena will continue to win like Hulk did, from 1984 to 1994. Well Cena is in his 10th year since winning the title just like Hulk's 10 year reign, what puzzles me is, Cena is equally just as bad as Hulk, meaning everyone is ready to throw him to the wolves just like Hulk. Yet it doesn't look like Cena is going anywhere.

I just want to know what it is going to take to "finish" Cena? I don't mean anything illegally, but what is it gonna take for the 38 year old Cena to leave?!?
 
#4 ·
The most over wrestler in the past decade is working with young talent and in the past few weeks has let 2 rookies (to WWE audience) kick out of the AA and he was laid out by the NXT champ. Seriously, what more do you want from the guy? The open challenge is brilliant and Cena's made the US title relevant. By far the most interesting thing on Raw lately.
 
#10 ·
The most over wrestler in the past decade is working with young talent and in the past few weeks has let 2 rookies (to WWE audience) kick out of the AA and he was laid out by the NXT champ. Seriously, what more do you want from the guy? The open challenge is brilliant and Cena's made the US title relevant.By far the most interesting thing on Raw lately.
Those things have been forgotten to casuals already except Owens lying out Cena you not listening to what im saying there have been countless wrestlers that took John Cena to the limit what exactly is so different from Sami Zayn? Damien Sandow did it lost his money in the bank briefcase looked like a joke ever since, Wade Barret as the leader of Nexus did it got buried in chairs literally and has been a midcarder ever since, The Miz was a main eventer for goodness sake in his match with Cena at Over the limit punished Johnny boy only for Cena to make a comeback from hell and making The Miz quit like a little bitch lets not go on with wyatt and Rusev.

Its not brilliant his defeating the future and potential feuds on free television most people dont care about Cena's opponent looking strong in defeat name one Wrestler who has benefit almost beating John Cena I will wait?

To answer your question what more do I want from Cena nothing but his retirement but we all cant have what we want glad you like this challenge but it only benefits Cena and I will maintain that arguement.
 
#5 ·
Beating the top star of the company shouldn't be an easy task for the likes of Stardust, Neville, Barrett, etc. to defeat, none of whom have anywhere near the credibility and accolades that Cena has. So what's the problem exactly? He's been triumphing over main event names for the past decade, what do you expect him to do when he drops down into the midcard with a bunch of non-main event names?

You can argue that it's not "helping" most of them (Neville being a notable exception since he kicked out of one of Cena's AA and didn't actually lose to Cena since Rusev interfered before an actual finish could be had for the match), but it's not "hurting" them either. If they weren't jobbing to Cena, they'd either be jobbing to or getting a victory over someone that is far less relevant and impressive than Cena is. Might as well be putting on a good fight and effort against the biggest star of the company, no?
 
#13 ·
none of whom have anywhere near the credibility and accolades that Cena has.
You make it sound like Cena legit beat those guys in a shoot match. Everything is predetermined and Cena has a big say in whether he wins or loses, so all those accolades Cena "won" mean nothing.
The worst part is when he eventually loses the title he will be catapulted back to the main event and break Flair's record.
I doubt he'll ever break Flair's record, which as far as I'm concerned is more than 16 WWE Champion (now WWE WHC) titles and if he does, then I hope they talk about Jerry Lawler's 168 titles and whether Cena will beat that.
 
#6 ·
He's put on some solid matches, but I agree, there is no suspense to him actually losing to anyone that comes out there to face him lol The only way I would be convinced is if Roman Reigns came out there or Randy Orton. They have made sure to keep Reigns from doing the job to him and a face Randy Orton Vs John Cena would be an interesting dynamic seeing as they usually stay away from that match when Orton is face.
 
#7 ·
When Angle did it he was mostly just squashing nameless jobbers. Cena is beating guys who are "the future" and not only that, he's having potential PPV matches on RAW, with no build or feud whatsoever.

It's fucking stupid and yes, it only benefits John Cena. People act like these guys are getting "rubs" but they're not. It's just a way for Cena to show off to the smarks that he can "hang" with the NXT guys, and bust out his retarded springboard stunner.

Funny how the one time a guy actually did look good was Owens debut, which didn't need the "US Open" and could have happened just the same without it. Not that it matters anyways if he jobs to Cena in two weeks.

I honestly think Cena's heart is in the right place here. And I respect the fact that he would openly drop down to midcard like that, because nobody in his spot ever would. But this thing is stupid and only benefiting him.
 
#9 ·
Yes, because beating nameless jobbers would bring a lot of prestige back to the title. :aj3

Of course Cena has to look strong here too, he's the US Champion and is trying to restore some meaning back to the title. Beating no-names that you've never heard of isn't impressive. That doesn't mean he's "burying" anyone or making them look weak. Some people seem prepared to lambaste Cena no matter what he does.
 
#14 ·
It benefits the guy that eventual beats him, I guess.

You're kidding yourself if you think Cena WON'T be back main eventing PPVs once he drops the US title.
 
#15 ·
The top star in the company agrees to drop to the mid-card to attempt to restore a worthless championship and give the rub to lower-level stars rather than stay on top and collect another 10 world titles in boring feuds we've seen many times before - and there are actually people bitching about him. I swear this man could lose in one-sided SummerSlam type beatings every week on both Raw and SmackDown and there would still be people claiming he's only doing it to benefit himself.
 
#17 ·
We just saw El Generico, PAC and Kevin Steen treated like equals to John Cena. John bloody Cena.

I have my issues with the matchs kicking out of finishers is a lazy way of getting a this is awesome chant and Cena's kickouts have always looked ridiculous but thats what he's encouraged to do.

At the end of the day I think a lot of this is Cena wanting to do something decent. After allowing the company to sideline so many guys and bugger up so many careers just to give kiddies the impression that Cena is the best. Now he's working with up and coming guys and one of them is going to beat him.
 
#18 · (Edited)
He has given the title some importance and put on some highly enjoyable matches at the same time.

It has benefitted Neville and Zayn so far and as of Monday also Kevin Owens so i find your points invalid.

Plus Cena's role changes based on the crowd reaction, one week he's face and one week he's basically a heel.

If you can't open your eyes and see that Cena is trying to put over the newer guys then that's your own hatred or jealousy blocking your view.
 
#21 · (Edited)
He has given the title some importance and put on some highly enjoyable matches at the same time.

It has benefitted Neville and Zayn so far and as of Monday also Kevin Owens so i find your points invalid.

Plus Cena's role changes based on the crowd reaction, one week he's face and one week he's basically a heel.

If you can't open your eyes and see that Cena is trying to put over the newer guys then that's your own hatred or jealousy blocking your view.
:maury :ti what Jealousy?? What the hell must I be jealous about must I just forgot about Rusev title reign as well since you find my points invalid I wont waste my time debating your opinions.
 
#20 ·
I find Cena unbearable 99% of the time but this open challenge stuff is one of the highlights of the shows for me. The excitement of who hes gonna face next, the resulting matches being consistently excellent and the fact that NXT guys are pushing the biggest star on the main roster to his limits on the companys flagship show. I'm more excited for Cena/Owens than I was for Paybacks main event.
 
#23 ·
Has the open benefitted Neville and Sayn though? Neville was almost winning close matches with Rollins and Barrett before Cena and he's still doing the same thing.

Does anyone other the people who post on boards like this even remember Sami Zayn had a match in the Cena invitational?

Owens got a benefit right now because it's fresh but the follow up is key.

I like the idea of a TV Title and this is what WWE is doing with the US Title but I'm not sure it's benefited anyone long term yet.
 
#25 ·
Cry a friggin river.

Yes, Stardust is much better off losing to Sandow in three minutes or R-Truth in five minutes than having like a 12-minute competitive match.

Cena's last five PPV matches will have been Rusev, Rusev, Rusev, Rusev, and Owens. I almost feel bad for him. Rusev isn't very good, and barely anyone knows who Owens is. And this is the biggest star (outside of Brock Lesnar maybe) that we're talking about.

And all the people crying and moaning about Cena right now are the same people who were throwing a hissy fit about Bryan being in the IC Title match at Wrestlemania.
 
#29 ·
Ask yourself these questions, did you give a fuck about the US title before Cena had it? Would you care enough to make a thread on it? Did you enjoy Rusev's pointless squash matches while he had it? Was there this much chatter about the belt and US title defenses in the past 4 years?

I'd say Cena has at the least brought some attention to it. Young guys are getting attention and getting a chance to showcase their talents with the FOTC. It helps people who didn't previously know them or watch NXT remember who they are. "Hey I remember him, that's the guy that fought Cena." (for the casuals) Would anyone really care if they came out and squashed some heel jobber like Heath Slater in a 2 minute match like usual?

People who hate Cena even tune in to see who his opponent will be. There's mystery and prestige now. Who will be the guy to finally beat John Cena? He's going to have to lose it at some point. Plus I can't complain about the matches we've been getting out of this lately.
 
#30 ·
So people aren't happy when he's winning in the ME picture, they want him losing.

People aren't happy when he's losing in the ME picture, they want him in the Midgard.

People aren't happy when he's winning in the midcard, they want him losing.



He's the biggest star of the past 15 years... Kudos to him for even wrestling up and comers in their debut match. Cena is the greatest performer of this era SOLELY because most fans (at least around here) can't separate the character and the person... Instead, they think that Cena books himself like this is WCW in the late 90's.

Cena has been the most selfless/plays the least politics of any face of a company that I've seen in the past 25 years. But hey, gotta complain about SOMETHING Cena-related, right?
 
#32 ·
I'm a certified Cena hater, but having him in the mid-card and out of the ME scene is refreshing to me. Also, it's apparent that WWE is trying to restore some prestige to the secondary titles. They are accomplishing that by having:

1. the belt on a future hall-of-famer (like him or not)
2. defend the Title weekly in good matches (about as good as Cena can do)
3. drama behind who's music is going to hit once Cena gets through pandering to the crowd and reciting his corny lines.
 
#33 ·
The route they had the US title, being with Cena who was only facing Rusev, was bad. It was obvious to smarks that Cena wasn't dropping the title, so all they were doing was a confessed scripted wrestling match. That was literally building up Cena, not so much the title. Towards the end of this feud (I found around PayBack build up) Cena was putting a lot of interest into the title, and not only speaking of himself. Actually, I made a similar comment on Cena making it about him and not the title a few days before ER.

KO coming out and stomping on the title was a God send. Makes him a disrespectful Punk towards the US title, and not just being disrespectful because it's Cena.
 
#35 ·
Look at Stardust. He answered the challenge a few weeks ago, and just this past Monday was squashed by Ziggler in one of the biggest waste of a match I've seen in ages. Having KO take Cena down is a step in the right direction, but we all know Cena's going to make him pay for it and then some. Cena is like a Metroid, leeching away all the momentum and potential from anyone he faces, the list provided earlier is a testament to WWEs collective failure to build new stars, sacrificing each one at the altar of Cena; Barrett, Sandow, Miz, Wyatt, Rusev. All potential long term heels that could have carried the company for years. Now they are all jokes, the lot of them. Aside from Bryan and Punk, Cena has put no one over in YEARS. Even with Bryan there was an excuse, "I was injured" LOL.

Have Reigns answer the damn US Open challenge and maybe then I will take it seriously. Until then, it's just filler between monthly events that makes the rest of the roster look like chumps.
 
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