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Undertaker has to show up on Raw at some point

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#1 ·
This entire feud can't just be Bray Wyatt in backstage promos repeating the same shit week after week with a coffin in the background. So far this feud is fucking awful, a feud can't work when its just 1 fucking guy doing everything and then the other guy just shows up at the ppv for the finish.
 
#4 · (Edited)
This, This, a thousand times this. I've often said that Bryan cant just do a series of soliloquies for a month 'til Mania comes. Taker's absence is killing my interest. Same can be said for Lesnar's and Sting's absences too. A match build up is give and take. There must be interactions between the participants; if not, it just feels hollow and meh.
 
#5 ·
This, This, a thousand times this. I've often said that Brya cant just do a series of soliloquies for a month 'til Mania comes. Taker's absence is killing my interest. Same can be said for Lesnar's and Sting's absences too. A match build up is give and take. There must be interactions between the participants; if not, it just feels hollow and meh.
I love soliloquies though!

"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
 
#9 ·
The biggest problem with the whole thing is that it just confirms that Taker is winning. Taker's not going to show up for the first time in a year after losing the streak just to lose. At least if they had them have some interaction you could build up some suspense, but the only thing we're building to is Taker making his "triumphant" return by squashing Bray.
 
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Usually the weeks leading up to WM are awesome with all kinds of great shit happening that doesn't happen the rest of the year, but this year its been awful. Raw for the last month has felt like any other Raw that we'd be seeing before a ppv like Over The Limit. Shouldn't they be pulling all the stops to make people wanna watch WM? Guess this is what happens when you rely on part timers thats never there to be your main attractions at WM.

These builds are just pathetic and Taker vs Wyatt is the worst of the bunch, cause at least Sting and Lesnar have made a few appearances interacting with their opponent. I can just picture it with Wyatt and Taker, 1 week before WM Wyatt will be in the ring and we'll get some stupid corny lightning shit and fancy effects and that'll be it, if we're luck Taker might show up in a video package on the tron addressing Bray.
 
#15 ·
This is what WWe should have done.

Casket match Undertaker vs Bray



In the casket match that had kane vs bryan where bryan one...it should have been used to keep kane off screen til wrestle mania.

(remember when the wyatts kidnapped kane? well here's where that comes in)

at WM where undertaker vs wyatt wyatt goes to throw taker in the coffin but bam as he opens it, theres kane in his mask.
 
#16 ·
I've actually been really enjoying Wyatt's promos, but you're right that the feud would be so much better is The Undertaker was involved. I'd love to see the two of them playing mind games with each other. I think what they're going for is trying to make it seem like Undertaker has vanished and have him re-appear one full year after his defeat as a way of adding to his mystique and make when he finally appears all the more special for the fans.
 
#19 ·
He really should. Especially since Wyatt has the urn (Smackdown), and seems like he will be doing something with it on RAW.

I cant comprehend what WWE are thinking with the booking of this match. It had, still has, potential to be one of the greats.
 
#20 ·
When I first heard the rumours about this match I got excited about it but I've starting to lose all interest in it now honestly. It just seems stupid having the Undertaker not appear at all before WM and it looks like that might be the case. There is no doubt in my mind now that the Undertaker will win, too bad though because Bray really should be winning this.
 
#23 ·
As good as Bray is even he can't carry this feud all the way to WM. Taker needs to show up at least once even it's the week before but they haven't done a good job of building this feud so far in terms of ramping up interest and excitement.
 
#27 ·
Undertaker is going to win, and rightfully so. Those who claim Bray Wyatt "must win or he's buried, needs to be put over" likely haven't watched wrestling before 2005, losing a match will not put you over, nor will it help you, on your talent and connection with the audience can.

Remember, Kane was established/made a star/put over by losing to The Undertaker at Wrestlemania 14 and Unforgiven 1998.
 
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#28 · (Edited by Moderator)
The Undertaker was in his prime back then, Kane taking a loss didn't hurt simply because Kane was booked as a machine, he was tearing apart anyone in his path, he still looked unstoppable in defeat as it took 3 Tombstones and he still got up after the match and Tombstoned Taker. The booking comity back then was different as well, they invested in characters, nowadays lazy booking and silly booking like the Wyatt/Cena feud made Bray look quite weak, then he was lost for months.

If Kane debuted now, his booking would be a lot different, he'd be the big monster dominate for a while, job out to a top star and be thrown to the side. The problem is WWE don't invest time and effort in to more than a couple of guys anymore, look at the Midcard, the ridiculous IC Title storyline, repeat matches on TV every week, Missed opportunities e.g. Rowan vs Harper on free TV with no build up.

Bray Wyatt is a man that still hasn't been "Made" yet, I love The Undertaker but Wyatt should go over him at Mania. Also back to Kane, he had a good year in 98, he was kept relevant, Wyatt after his match last year had nothing, he was put in a pointless feud with Jericho, no one cared for it, WWE wasn't putting effort in to rebuilding Bray until the year was closing, even then you could say some of the outcomes of his matches were questionable, he went into a feud with Ambrose who had lost steam never getting his win over Rollins.


WWE Booking in 1998 and WWE booking in 2015 is not comparable.
 
#30 ·
Whats with all these frankly dumb "burial" or "squash" comments? Losing a match does equal jobbing/burial/squash. If you seriously think Bray losing a 15-20 minute Mania match to The freaking Undertaker is a burial you need to rethink why you watch pro wrestling.

And learn what a burial actually is.
 
#31 · (Edited)
I think they are just asking what purpose an Undertaker win would have ?
What does an old Undertaker gain by beating 27yrs old Bray Wyatt ? I agree with you that it would not be a burial but it would still be fucking stupid especially after losing to Cena last year. Wyatt would look like a fat mofo who never backs up what he says.
 
#34 ·
He doesn't have to. Also, he's not going to. Was reported after FL that he's not showing up at all before WM.
 
#37 · (Edited)
read threw the whole thread.
take a break right here. gave "likes" to to what i also recaps my views.

promo's which only one guy does can work. can also be great, but it is maybe out of 100 tries more difficult. the annoying situation is that the 3 main fueds have that character of a solo promo.

"main fueds" because there are no bigger up to now.
 
#42 ·
IMO, it's completely fine if he's not on TV until Mania. It worked for WrestleMania 20.

But WWE needs to start using the classic Undertaker mind games. We need to see that kind of interaction with Wyatt. Otherwise it's just Wyatt continuing to talk and that alone can't sell that match.
 
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