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CESARO aka "The King Of Swing" is a Paul Heyman Guy

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Cesaro was the proper choice as the victor in The Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal. Cesaro is arguably the most consistent in-ring worker this year and he has plenty of momentum now. I am highly intrigued to see what he does in the next few months now that he is aligned with Paul Heyman. He still has the growing support from the fans so the dynamic there will be fun to follow.
 
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Re: CESARO's Push

Cesaro/Bryan? That's genius. Take two guys that you want the entire audience to get behind, and then put them into a match to split the audience on both of them. Daniel Bryan will win that battle, and then that would mess up Cesaro's momentum, especially because that's not a match he's going to win.

Book Cesaro against someone the crowd can hate, absolutely not the top babyface in the company!
 
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Re: CESARO's Push

I suspect Jack Swagger is going to smash the hell out of that trophy sooner than later to kick off their break-up feud.
I want a legit feud between them, but I also want a face run for Swagger eventually. If he broke that trophy none of the fans would forgive him, ever. There's enough there already for them to feud and we all know it's gonna be a b/s feud to stroke Cesaro's ego and bury Swagger, so there's no point in the WWE putting too much effort into it.
 
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Re: CESARO's Push

woops. wrong thread.

But oh boy! Go Cesaro and Hogan in the same ring :mark:

GTFO! GTFO! GTFO!

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THE KING OF SWING! A PAUL HEYMAN GUY!!!!!!!

CESARO AND LESNAR ON THE SAME TEAM!!!!
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That didn't just happen. Lord Jesus, that suplex just didn't just happen.


Oh my god. OH MY FUCKING GOD. Woo chile, the Holy Spirit of James Brown just manifested my body and flew right out of my ass. LORD I FEEL GOOD.

Good God, I need a doctor. Lord, you better heal my ass and dispatch the motherfucking ambulance.
Time for a new animated avatar of that move.. eh! Seriously.. I just about fell out of my chair when he did that too.
 
#249 ·
Woaaaaaaaaaah thats an awful jacket.

Really, this was a dissapointing first match for Cesaro under Heyman booking wise. I was hoping to see the UFO or some of his other face moves in addition to the swing the crowd wants but we didn't even get the swing... to not let him swing on his first fully face night seems a strange choice.
 
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The trouble with the PAUL HEYMAN GUY hulabaloo is that it becomes a gimmick. A really cheap one. Instead of developing distinct, real characters, these dudes just become PAUL HEYMAN GUYS.

I'm bored already with it.

At the very least, this "real American" thing, that was stolen from Swagger, is a start at some sort of cool character. Needs hella fleshing out though. I could see myself getting into it if he does it correctly. Or maybe that's off the books and he's some generic "King of Swing" now (break out the ****** Tonk outfit w/that nickname btw). Either way, WWE should realize that just pairing dudes with Heyman doesn't make them interesting. Brock and Punk work because they're Brock and Punk. Look at Axel, Ryback and the other one I think I'm forgetting. And hell, Ryback was also over when he was paired with Heyman and he, like Cesaro, had some sort of character to start with.

Instead of continuing to develop those characters, the WWE sees becoming a PAUL HEYMAN GUY as some sort of evolution or character development in and of itself. Nuh uh.


By the way, in theory, I don't mind that Cesaro is face and Heyman is heel. Faces and heels don't need to go away but the idea that faces need to be on one side and heels on the other has ran it's course IMO.
 
#269 ·
Imho, the way Zeb was tweeting on twitter leads me to believe that, save for maybe stealing the music, Cesaro is done with the real American gimmick as a whole. He's not a "Zeb Colter Guy" so he isn't a real American. I'm glad, he never should have leeched off of Swagger's gimmick in the first place.

His gimmick is the "King of Swing" because that's what he, as a character and talent have to offer, his impossible feats of strength. It's what got him over (save for a certain manager and tag partner who was made to look like crap for him to come off as more impressive) so they're sticking with it. Him being a "Paul Heyman Guy" is the only gimmick he can really have right now.

Everything else aside, he needs to drop that hideous suit jacket thing. It's so ugly, it really is, I don't know who told him it looked good but by God it doesn't fit him whatsoever and it's ugly on it's own.
 
#305 ·
I've never watched an indy federation in my entire life, but it's pretty clear that Antonio Cesaro is substantially more talented and entertaining than Swagger. You can try and make excuses to console yourself about why people like him more, but it's not really a difficult equation to figure out.
 
#310 ·
As sad as I am to see the demise of The Real Americans, who were one of the best tag teams in many a year, good for Cesaro. He's an exceptional talent and one worth pushing as far as they possibly can.

I just hope they make it gradual, though, and tell the story of his rise properly. He has the best manager in the world in his corner, so there's really no excuse to get this wrong.

As an aside, I hope Zeb and Jack Swagger still have a place after this. Cesaro being such an astounding wrestler doesn't take away the fact that Swagger is very good in his own right, and Zeb also remains an excellent manager.
 
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As sad as I am to see the demise of The Real Americans, who were one of the best tag teams in many a year, good for Cesaro. He's an exceptional talent and one worth pushing as far as they possibly can.

I just hope they make it gradual, though, and tell the story of his rise properly. He has the best manager in the world in his corner, so there's really no excuse to get this wrong.

As an aside, I hope Zeb and Jack Swagger still have a place after this. Cesaro being such an astounding wrestler doesn't take away the fact that Swagger is very good in his own right, and Zeb also remains an excellent manager.
Yes and more yes. Too bad people won't recognize this whatsoever and really don't care about Swagger/Colter any longer. It was bound to happen, but doesn't make it suck any less that they'll be wasted after this feud.
 
#322 ·
After Cesaro is done with Swagger I hope they debut Sami Zayn and have them feud. Win-Win imo. You finally get Sami Zayn on the mainroster and not just thrown in like Emma but in a real program against a topguy. Plus who better for Cesaro to face?

Cesaro should go over but have them pull off 20-30 minute matches. Ive watched this match 4 times yet I could watch it ten more.

Bring in Zayn and have him work 1-2 ppvs with Cesaro in a real freaking feud with a good ass storyline.
 
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I'm well aware of the amazing matches Cesaro/Sami have put on at NXT, so don't slate me for saying this BUT...in what world would an NXT rookie debut onto the main roster and start a feud with one of the top rising stars in the company? And you can bring up Paige debuting and starting a feud with the top diva by winning the divas championship all in one night, but it's not comparable considering the division has little to no talent. It would just kill Cesaro's momentum right now, plus there are still plenty of other credible talents to feud with, anyway.

Just another case of fantasy booking that will remain just that, a fantasy.
 
#325 ·
Cesaro will no doubt go over Swagger and I expect it to happen at ER with both Colter and Heyman going at each other on the mic in the lead up.

Zayn vs Cesaro would be amazing, and yea it may be a fantasy but what would be wrong with it?

Have even just one match where Zayn loses but fights valiantly and make him look super strong for it so he cant start his push, in the mean time Cesaro wins and gains more momentum on his way to the mainevent. Zayn will become an instant star and people will first realize how great he is in ring and how good of a baby face he is. It would be amazing.
 
#413 ·
Very impressive. I also enjoyed that tiger suplex that he actually executed seamlessly on Swagger. Those two have perfect timing. My only critique is they both sell moves kinda goofy...so when they're going back and forth it gets a little cartoonish.
 
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@Thwagger - I meant Cesaro is a face for the fans ... His antics are heelish pre-match, but because of his swing and actual face moveset, during the match people are forgetting he's supposed to be a heel and he himself starts pandering around like a face.

Tehnically, I know he's supposed to be a heel. The question is .. does he know that he's a heel?
 
#422 ·
Honestly, even with his moveset he's still a heel to me. The Neutralizer is neither a heel or face move and while the Big Swing still gets a face reaction, I doubt fans magically forget he's still an ass when it comes to his character. He's still heel as hell, but fans still enjoy him. Same as a lot of heels that have been cheered, but the problem is the only thing people are popping for are his finishers. He doesn't have much of a characterization besides being Heyman's lacky and overly confident. The more exposure he gets with this character, I believe the less people might be behind him. It's not a very interesting or engaging character, either, or creative. Which is a problem that they could solve with him being face for real.
 
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