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post #21 of 152 (permalink) Old 04-05-2014, 10:22 PM
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Re: Ziggler should even be main eventing by now

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Nah, he's right where he belongs in the midcard/jobber place. The fact that he's even an ex-World Champion is more than he should've gotten.
It's worse than you're making it sound. Not only is he a ex-world champion, he's actually a TWO TIME World Champion.
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post #22 of 152 (permalink) Old 04-06-2014, 12:21 AM
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I only enjoy him jobbing when he wins it feels unreal, hes actually over accomplished more than he should with his two WHC imo and I'm sure a lot of people here just dig him for his look and over-selling.

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I see him getting back in the main event picture in the later half of 2014.

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post #24 of 152 (permalink) Old 04-06-2014, 01:21 AM
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He's terrible on the mic. And his comical overselling is annoying.
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No. He has pretty much none of the tools required to be a maineventer besides a good look. He's a Roman Reigns that the Internet community actually loves.

Well, he can sell. Which means he makes a good jobber.
This, except for the knock on Reigns, who has really grown on me.

Ziggler is perfectly suited to be a jobber to the stars. He bumps like a motherfucker and has gotten some solid crowd support, but that's really as far as it goes.
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He's terrible on the mic. And his comical overselling is annoying.
He might as well change his character, a darker character who doesn't talk the way he does now. He has potential to play a tougher character and that's what WWE seems to be into as well as a lot of casuals too.

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I've tried to like the guy but he loses me when he opens his mouth.

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Re: Ziggler should even be main eventing by now

The Ziggler hate is strong here... Except it is unwarranted.

I figure, with his constant start/stop pushes, people have had their passion turn to disappointment then hate (familiarity breeds contempt). Another problem, is with his quasi face turn, he has lost some moves.

Zigglers promos have improved drastically, Bryan's best match was with Ziggler (before they limited both mens moveset)- he just needs to be allowed more moves in his arsenal to be up there.
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This, except for the knock on Reigns, who has really grown on me.

Ziggler is perfectly suited to be a jobber to the stars. He bumps like a motherfucker and has gotten some solid crowd support, but that's really as far as it goes.
Except for the fact that Ziggler is actually very good in the ring, and anyone who says otherwise is absolutely delusional. He's been a midcarder for all of his career (when he wasn't a jobber), and he has still managed to pull off some great matches, showing great versatility in terms of move execution and, when given the time to actually have meaningful match, good in ring psychology. And yes, I know most people on here deny that, and claim that all he does is throw himself around the ring, or that he's a spot monkey, but such people are merely kidding themselves.

Reigns sucks in the ring, whereas Ziggler is very good in the ring. Reigns sucks on the mic, whereas Ziggler may not be the best on the mic, on average, but is ultimately capable of delivering quality promos. And they both seem to be charismatic. So in no way is Reigns better than Ziggler.

I'd love to see Ziggler in the Main Event. He's really fun to watch, and, for many, really easy to get behind. He'd produce some memorable matches, and, I think he could hang with the top guys. I thought he showed that well during his feud with Cena.

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Re: Ziggler should even be main eventing by now

I understand that people don't like him because of his overselling but he's actually really good in the ring IMO. He was especially amazing in that 4way to be the number one contender for the IC title. I know he probably won't but I hope he win's the battle royal. I doubt he will ever be a main eventer again because of his mouth, yeah he should be more careful about what he say's but most of it's true. So IMO I think he deserves better but that's just me.
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