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Lesnar should've been pushed properly

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#1 ·
While I'm still looking forward to this, I feel Lesnar vs Taker could've been so much bigger if Lesnar had been built as a proper unstoppable beast since his return.

Losses to Cena and HHH have diluted his impact, he should've been going into this Wrestlemania undefeated since his return and as a serious threat to the streak.

There were always rumours of this happening and I feel WWE wasted a great opportunity to have Lesnar running through the roster, looking invincible and eventually being stopped by Undertaker and his streak etc.
 
#17 ·
I'm pretty sure he even said this himself. Some of us are apparently more bothered by it than he is.

He shouldn't have lost since he came back, wouldbhave made this a much biiger match. I'll enjoy it no doubt but it just won't be as good as it could have been.
What? Win or Lose, Lesnar is still a beast. WWE still has 6 weeks to develop this storyline, which isn't a whole hell of a lot but to say the match won't be as good because of it is just dumb. You can't have a match much bigger than this, and it hasn't even happened at this caliber. Basically, I completely disagree with you that Lesnar's W/L record has any impact on the match itself.

You're supposed to forget about his previous matches. Heyman even mentioned HHH in yestrday's promo without referring to the fact that they feuded at WM 29.
Right, WWE is hoping it's audience has a very short memory as always. When HHH first introduced Lesnar back a few months ago he even mentioned his return had nothing to do with their feud - water under the bridge.

I marked the fuck out last night when that bell tolled. I really don't care about Lesnar losing in the past. You already know who's going to win since HHH beat Lesnar, but he can't beat The Undertaker, but it's still going to be an amazing match as long as Lesnar really dedicates his rehearsal with Undertaker.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Rebooking Lesnar

Beat Cena @ Extreme Rules 2012
Beat HHH @ Summerslam 2012
Lose to Rock @ Wrestlemania 29 due to HHH's interference
Beat HHH @ Extreme Rules 2013 to win Heyman control over WWE
Teams w/ Punk to beat Ryback & Orton @ Summerslam 2013(sorry no HHH, I forgot he has to screw Bryan out of the WWE Title)
Beat Punk @ Royal Rumble 2014
Lose to Taker @ Wrestlemania 30

Lesnar's record at this point should be 6-2
 
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#24 ·
Rebooking Lesnar

Beat Cena @ Extreme Rules 2012
Beat HHH @ Summerslam 2012
Lose to Rock @ Wrestlemania 29 due to HHH's interference
Beat HHH @ Extreme Rules 2013 to win Heyman control over WWE
Teams w/ Punk to beat HHH & Orton @ Summerslam 2013
Beat Punk @ Royal Rumble 2014
Lose to Taker @ Wrestlemania 30

Lesnar's record at this point should be 6-2
Lol stopped right there. No way should Cena have lost to Lesnar right after losing to the Rock.
 
#3 ·
I do think he could've been booked better too - I can understand Cena beating him, but it should've been a two match series with Lesnar getting the first victory. HHH putting himself over Lesnar was a disgrace and did nothing except stroke his own ego. I wouldn't mind Lesnar losing to CM Punk, in a similar 2 match series either to be honest. The real thing that has taken the wind out of his sails was the HHH feud IMO, they pretty much spent a year around it and at Mania you could hear crickets, which sucks because Lesnar when handled properly is a MASSIVE draw.

Oh yeah... the Big Show feud... another bad idea. I can sort of understand because they wanted him to look strong for Mania, but still.
 
#5 · (Edited)
The point here is they DO NOT have to book Lesnar that way, b/c he can throw off that vibe no matter what happens in his matches b/c he only has 5 a year and they are spaced out enough. All that most fans are going to remember about Lesnar is him destroying The Big Show at Rumble.

The rub from a win over Lesnar is WAY more valuable than the little it may hurt Lesnar.

Plus your theory here is Lesnar should've destroyed Cena, HHH, Punk, and Show just to give a bigger rub to The Undertaker, who now wrestles once a year?
 
#14 ·
How would that make the Brock/Taker match any bigger than it already is, or how would it make the outcome of the match any less predictable?

The only thing that would have done would make Brock look better than your entire roster of top guys, which does NO good for the WWE, just to make one match against a guy who wrestles one match a year vs a guy who wrestles 5 matches a year seem "bigger" when it does not need to seem any "bigger"
 
#13 · (Edited)
I remember reading that the deal with the Cena match was for Cena to be taken carted off afterward, and really play up how much he'd been brutalized.

Instead he gave that speech right after, thanking mom and dad and everything was fine with him.

Supposedly, this pissed Brock off and he had a tantrum backstage.

So yeah, even if they insisted on having Brock lose, they should have done it in a way that made it seem almost like his opponent didn't win anyway.

His booking has been atrocious.


Here's the article:
According to several sources, Lesnar lost it on a number of WWE officials and began ripping apart a dressing room, upset over the John Cena promo that closed the PPV. The original plan was for Cena, despite winning, to be so beaten that he was carried out of the building, leaving an opening for Lesnar to brag that while he had lost the battle on a fluke, he had won the war. When Cena decided to address the audience, Lesnar perceived it as Cena double crossing him and lost it on WWE officials.
 
#15 ·
Lesnar has been just fine since he came back. Look.

L vs Cena @Extreme Rules
W vs HHH @Summerslam
L vs HHH @WM29
W vs HHH @Extreme Rules
W vs CM Punk @Summerslam

First of all, he's beaten Triple H twice, and CM Punk once. That's amazing for anyone. Second, he's lost to Cena and HHH once each, and they are both two of the kayfabe GOATS of all time. Finally, as many have said, Brock could lose plenty of matches, and still look like a beast.
 
#19 ·
I actually did forget about his other wins over HHH and Punk. Now I'm really wanting to believe that Lesnar can beat the streak. It seems credible considering his wins over HHH and Punk when they couldn't defeat Taker. Paul Heyman's presence will also definitely have an impact unless he gets ejected, or there's some stipulation to the match they can exploit.
 
#16 ·
The biggest mistake with Lesnar's booking, I feel, is the loss to Triple H at Wrestlemania. It was unnecessary.

I'm fine with the Cena loss and the upcoming Undertaker loss; but the loss to Triple H was unacceptable.

First of all, he's beaten Triple H twice, and CM Punk once
His wins against Triple H (Extreme Rules) and CM Punk were dirty though. Kayfabe, he was about to lose both matches until Paul Heyman interfered.

It's ironic that while Brock couldn't beat Triple H and CM Punk fairly, The Undertaker beat those 2 back-to-back at Wrestlemania (and quite handily).

Yes. Brock is a threat to Undertaker.
 
#20 ·
Brock just be the ever living sh*t out of the Big Show just a month ago. He is a threat and he is a threat in a big way. But lets face it, nobody is credible against Taker's streak. Not even Sammartino in his 4000+ day reign as champ would stand a chance against the streak.
 
#23 ·
I can see the appeal of Lesnar returning and not losing a single match until facing Taker at Mania, but I disagree that he's lost any of his "mystique" or badass credibility. The guy murdered Cena for almost 20 minutes before Superman got lucky in the end, losing the battle but winning the war with Cena's obvious injuries in that match, and his win/loss record against HHH still sits at 2-1, on top of wins against Punk and Show.

Lesnar's image is just fine.
 
#26 ·
Lesnar is 4-2 since he returned, losing to Cena and Triple H aint really a big deal(Brock made had lost 1 against :HHH2 but he won that war)

Spacing out his appearances was a smart move by WWE

I don't think Lesnar really cares whether he wins or loses, as long as he gets paid :brock
 
#27 ·
The only people who care are uber-Lesnar marks online anyway. I've said it many times: for EVERYONE else, Brock could job to Santino in thirty seconds, leave for 3 months and still be the BEAST when he came back. Enough of this "no mystique" garbage. It's all a vehicle to justify your own disdain of the guys who beat Lesnar.
 
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