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Old 07-16-2013, 12:42 PM   #751 (permalink)
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Default Re: CM Punk VS. Brock Lesnar...who wins?

Lesnar will get this win and Punk will get the win in the rematch but it wont be clean.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:42 PM   #752 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

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Lesnar can't talk and like somebody else said, he doesn't appear enough times to make the feud about him, therefore making it between Heyman and Punk with Lesnar being the big wall standing between them makes sense. Although I don't know how they are going to finish this since Lesnar's credibility will be damaged if he loses and at the same time, Punk has to win if his face character is supposed to go further as he got screwed. But considering that heels have come out on top many times (hell, including Punk's entire heel run from last year) including Lesnar against TRIPLE H, I think they can work it out.
The only issue with this theory man, is that HHH is not a full-timer and could easily afford to lose the feud. Punk, however, cannot. Like I mentioned before I believe match will play out with Punk trying to keep his distance from Brock while laying in kicks and when Brock's down he'll wear him down with submissions. Of course Brock will eventually get his hands on Brock and will rightfully dominate in those situations, but I think Punk will ultimately come out on top after surprising Brock with a GTS with his knee pad pulled down like this:


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That way it makes sense that it would put Brock down long enough for the pinfall. The one thing WWE absolutely NEEDS to avoid in this match though, is booking Punk to Brawl straight up with Brock or trying to out-wrestle him. That would be damaging to Brock, but doing it my way won't be.

Post-match, you can easily have Brock lay Punk out so he has to be stretchered out of the arena the way it was supposed to happen with Cena, and then Brock comes out of the match with even more credibility then he had going in, regardless of taking the loss.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:44 PM   #753 (permalink)
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CM Punk. Heyman needs his comeuppance and Punk is the babyface, makes no sense for Punk to lose.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:44 PM   #754 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

My question is OP, How would this feud have happened/started w/o Heyman being a focal point?
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

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Just gives them a reason to have Brock lose since it's like Punk beating Heyman
I see it the opposite way round.

They're not going to kill Brock's credibility by having him job out to a 195lb guy. He's going to beat Punk and then Punk will finally GTS Heyman after the match so the face can still stand tall without having to win the match.
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

the story here is heyman vs Punk, is more meaningful that anything Lesnar can do with Punk. And him being the beast Heyman calls on to face Punk is very comic-book like, I love it!

And how can someone be opposed to heyman vs Punk promo wise? We are going to get gold from both of them.

And the story actually means something, that's always good.
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

why does this have 5 stars?
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Default Re: Why the hell is Brock Lesnar playing second fiddle to Heyman vs Punk feud?

Punk needs this win more than Lesnar. For both to save face, Punk can collapse the next night on Raw because he took so much damage from Lesnar. It makes both guys look strong.
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Because Heyman talks and Lesnar beats ass. That's just how it is.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:50 PM   #760 (permalink)
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Punk/Heyman have history and it's way better like this. Besides, Heyman refers to Brock like he's his pet gorilla, beating people up at his every command. Brock is a beast with no backbone, plus he can't talk for shit. He opens his mouth, Punk will crush him on the mic and there goes the feud.
Bolded the dumb parts.

Brock has no backbone now? When you're ready to get back to reality, let us know.

Punk wouldn't crush shit on the mic either. Brock could just break Punk's face if he insulted him. Alpha male badassery trumps mouth-running clowns who can't back it up.

The lynch pin of Punk getting over people on the mic (as is the case for just about anyone who gets over on the mic) is that he's booked to not be countered effectively. It isn't that Punk is good on the mic. If, for example, The Rock punched CM Punk in his face like he should have when Punk made the "boxing with god" comment, then it looks like Punk wrote a check his ass couldn't cash and looks like a fool. Instead, Rock was booked to say an d do nothing so Punk looked good.
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