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Old 08-03-2013, 12:12 PM   #1341 (permalink)
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Mmmm, a signal perhaps lol.

I do think Punk will win, how? - not sure yet.
Don't bother paying attention to those WWE '13 simulations. They had Bryan make Cena tap out in another one, and you don't expect that to happen, do you?
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:47 PM   #1342 (permalink)
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Punk doesn't need shit. Why are people acting like he's been Jericho-level losing? All his "big losses" this year have been while he was heel so therefore, yes, they don't count. Losing to Brock (especially considering Punk's size) would not damage Punk. He could easily regenerate momentum. Brock is on the edge at the minute though and needs this win to propel him back to the forefront.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:11 PM   #1343 (permalink)
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Yeah Brock needs this more than Punk, especially since Brock will get paired with somebody big time at Mania like an Undertaker or Rock. I would love for this rivalry to end at Survivor Series in a team Heyman vs team Punk with the last two being Punk and Lesnar. In between Summerslam and Survivor Series I guess have an Axel vs Punk feud.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:05 AM   #1344 (permalink)
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I'd be fine with Punk losing, but he needs a big win over one of the "big 4" (Rock, Taker, Lesnar, HHH) at some point... or Austin if he ever comes back. But let's just stick with those four in parenthesis and what are the odds Punk will beat 'em:

Rock: No chance (There's just no opening I can foresee, plus it'd be a waste of Rock's time to have him face any man a third time)

Taker: No chance (thought maybe they could've done this for Summerslam if Punk returned as a heel/tweener and then turned into the face character he is now after beating Taker cleanly... but that time has passed, so no chance)

So that leaves Lesnar or HHH. If Punk loses at Summerslam, imo he needs to go to Mania and defeat one of those two. He's beaten Cena, sure, but he hasn't had a "big win" outside of him. That big win over a big star, and main eventing Mania is all that's missing for Punk. If he beats Brock at Summerslam, I say he can just go on to main event Mania next year with Bryan/Orton or Bryan/Cena.

That being said, Lesnar really can't afford the loss, especially if he's not gonna be able to pick up a win between SS and Mania. He'd be going into Mania with a loss. If he's facing Rock, it's not that big of a deal, but if he's facing Taker... well, then it would be unacceptable due to the streak and the fact he'd lose that one for sure.

Ultimately, I think the best scenario is what I've thought since I saw Choke2Death (?) post it. Have Lesnar beat Punk down, with Punk being resilient as fuck, never staying down for a three-count or submitting to the Kimura Lock. Then have Punk lose due to no response or something like that. Of course, a loss like that would pretty much ensure a rematch.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:29 AM   #1345 (permalink)
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I'd be fine with Punk losing, but he needs a big win over one of the "big 4" (Rock, Taker, Lesnar, HHH) at some point... or Austin if he ever comes back. But let's just stick with those four in parenthesis and what are the odds Punk will beat 'em:
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:30 AM   #1346 (permalink)
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punk needs to believe in himself or win against lesnar he cannot
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I used to really want Punk to beat at least one of the big part timers (no, that screwjob ending in that submission match doesn't count, Mr. Krishna. Punk actually looked worse after that match). However, at this point I think he's fine without that big win. Punk only had two big wins in his career, but with those two wins (one of which being virtually negated after he got buried in 2010) he was able to forge a Hall of Fame career. A Wrestlemania main event would be nice too, but I don't think it will happen.
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Why would you let Punk decide what's best for the finish of his own match? That's like Kevin Nash booking himself in the late-WCW years.
You know that Punk calls the shots in pretty much all of his matches right? He took the lead even against the Undertaker at Wrestlemania this year.

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Brock's a bigger star. He's the better talent (in-ring + charisma). He's the one that has to win.

If Punk needed a win so badly, then they shouldn't have put him against Brock. Put him against Ryback or Henry instead.
Nah. Punk's a better worker than Brock is, and Brock's great, so that says something about Punk. And charisma-wise, both are just as charismatic, both of them can make their presence felt when they're out there, both of them can make you believe in what they're doing. But Punk can hold you in his palms when he's cutting a promo whereas Brock can't, so that gives Punk a slight edge over Brock. And as you said, to Brock's credit, he's a bigger star. But being a bigger star or being a better talent has nothing to do with one winning a match, its about the storylines and how it would benefit the company in the long run.

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Punk doesn't need shit. Why are people acting like he's been Jericho-level losing? All his "big losses" this year have been while he was heel so therefore, yes, they don't count. Losing to Brock (especially considering Punk's size) would not damage Punk. He could easily regenerate momentum. Brock is on the edge at the minute though and needs this win to propel him back to the forefront.
How would Brock winning help the company? All it would do is make him look strong enough going into Wrestlemania XXX against the Rock/the Undertaker. But the thing is, that can be done even if he loses at Summerslam. He lost against Cena, but he came out the very next week and took out Triple H and the loss against Cena didn't affect him whatsoever. He was still looked at as a legitimate monster who can kick your ass anytime of the day. He lost to Triple H at Wrestlemania, but just a week later, he came out and decimated the Miz on his way to Extreme Rules, and he was looked at as just as much of a threat as he was at first, despite his loss at Wrestlemania. If Brock Lesnar wins, well, he is BROCK LESNAR. The ass kicker. Wins or losses don't matter to him cause he's just here to hurt people. And if he loses, he is still BROCK LESNAR. The ass kicker. Wins or losses don't matter to him cause he's just here to hurt people. Yeah, that's how his character is. Wins or losses don't affect him.

Now what if Punk wins? Unlike Brock, Punk's here every week, so he can make the most of the momentum off the victory, atleast more than Brock can as the latter just goes away and comes back after months and its almost like a fresh start for him. And another thing is, Punk NEEDS the victory more than Brock. He lost twice against the Rock and then against the Undertaker. You might say that he came back and beat Jericho in his hometown, but after all the jobbing he's done in his last run, beating Jericho doesn't mean a lot, even Curtis Axel beat Jericho clean. And even storyline-wise, Punk needs the win more than Brock. Heyman thinks he made Punk and that Punk's not the best in the world without him, and Punk wants to prove him wrong. Punk swore on Heyman's kids that he will destroy everything around Paul Heyman and for that he has to go through Brock Lesnar, and that he will. That's the story. You can run your mouth all you want as a heel, but when you run your mouth as a face, you mean it. And if Punk doesn't win after all the talk, it would make Punk look real weak. But if Brock loses, it wouldn't mean that Brock was the weaker man, it would go on to show that Punk went on to prove how Heyman was wrong. Heyman would lose the battle, not Brock. The outcome of the match would go on to prove that Punk's the best despite what Heyman says and that Punk could've been a star even without Heyman's assistance back in 2006. So it wouldn't hurt Brock as much, as Heyman would take all the blows.

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In regards to Punk winning a big match this would be ideal, like someone said if it's a one off encounter Punk has to win to get his win over a big star and to end the feud and get his revenge on Heyman/Lesnar.

If it's more then just this one encounter Lesnar should win but ultimately Punk should win the series and get his redemption but at this stage also I just think Punk need's a win, 4 losses from 4 big matches this year could really hurt him, and in regards to him maineventing Wrestlemania, i jsut think it's getting less and less likely, he could possibly mainevent WM30 but his chances are slim which is just bullshit, no one deserves that spot more then he does.
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I predict Brock Lesnar wins C.M. Punk possibly takes another break.
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