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post #1311 of 2074 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 03:30 AM
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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - THE BEST VS. THE BEAST

I've said it before, but Punk really doesn't need this win as much as Lesnar. The key is to obviously make Punk sympathetic in defeat and to have Heyman affect the decision of the match in some way. Lesnar gets the win but Punk gets the affection of the fans. Hopefully a future match between the two occurs where Punk gets the victory, but I'm not sure that it will happen considering Brock's schedule.

The thing with Punk is that he doesn't really need victories to stay over. A part-timer that needs to maintain his aura needs victories, especially when he doesn't know how to speak. Remember that Punk got buried back in late 2009-2010, yet he was still arguably the most over heel during this period. When you're as good as Punk is on the mic, you can command the crowd with ease. On top of that, Punk has reached that point in his career where he has become a living legend that will always be over (sorta like Orton).

If Punk has to take the fall and be this generation's Foley/Jericho, then so be it. As a Punk fan, I'm happy with the last two years of his historic main event run. Man had a title reign that will be remembered for ages and a plethora of classics. He has a credential that will not be matched again just like Jericho's Undisputed Title. It was a nice run, fellow Punk fans, but he can't stay at the top forever. Punk fans have to accept that.

One thing to note is that while Punk probably won't beat these part-time legends as he has already lost against just about all of them, Punk never really needed these victories. He only had two big victories in his career that elevated him (vs. Hardy Summerslam and vs. Cena MITB), but that's all he needs. Guys like Jericho and Foley also didn't have that many big wins (Jericho had Vengeance 2001 and Foley had...Rock?). What people do remember are the moments and the talent of the greats, and for the past few years, nobody has given us more awesome promos and PPV classics than Mr. Punk.

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I understand they needed a big SS match for both Punk and Brock but I feel like they should have saved it. Neither guy can afford a loss.
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The WM 13 finish was also my guess, makes Punk look strong losing...that is, if he loses. But are you seriously calling Punk a main event jobber? The guy who was just WWE Champion for over a year?
The only reason he held on to the title was to drop it to The Rock. Punk even said he was never supposed to hold it that long. Him retaining every month against people like Jericho and Daniel Bryan just kinda happened because his opponents weren't qualified champions at the time. Then once they hit Raw 1000, it was locked. It couldn't be Cena because that was being saved for WrestleMania, and it couldn't be anybody else because Punk was still the #2 guy in the company despite how much he loses. If that deal had not been in place, and thank God it was, because it probably saved the WWE a whole lot of dark days, he would've lost it to Ryback at HIAC.

The amount of times Punk gets beat for a top guy is absurd, and it's going to happen yet again.

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This makes absolute zero sense lol. How would Brock be somewhat believable to beat taker if he can't beat fucking cm punk???
since when has a wrestler needed a winning record to face taker at mania
punk had lost coming into mania 29 to rock twice, hhhs last match before challenging taker at mania 27 was a loss to sheamus at extreme rules 2010, the whole storyline of shawn challenging taker at mania 26 his failure to win matches (got pinned by orton on raw, failed to beat mysterio, got dumped out of the rumble he promised to win, was at fault for losing the tag belts)

we know lesnar losing isn't effecting him, he lost convincingly in ufc his last few fights and still booked as a monster in wwe first night back, i personally don't see brock and taker anyway at mania, if brock doesn't wrestle rock then i expect next option is for him to go into mania as wwe champion
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This makes absolute zero sense lol. How would Brock be somewhat believable to beat taker if he can't beat fucking cm punk???
well Punk lost twice to The Rock, once to Cena, & once to Kane even before challenging the Streak at Mania. People going strong into a Streak Match is a myth (it happened with Hunter and Michaels too as someone else noted). Besides Brock?Taker is far from confirmed especially there are talks Vince is scrapping that idea already.

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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - THE BEST VS. THE BEAST

Who really believes that Brock is gonna face Taker, that will never happen because he's in no condition to get in that kind of match. Brock will either face Rock or someone that is capable to be in that spot.
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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - THE BEST VS. THE BEAST

At the end of the day it doesn't matter, Brock is facing someone who's a bigger star than Punk, and that means he's a lock to win this match.

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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - THE BEST VS. THE BEAST

Brock will be fighting The Rock at Wrestlemania and if not he will enter as champion I think and will face CM Punk or someone else for the title. All depends how Summerslam pans out.


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post #1320 of 2074 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 09:29 PM
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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - THE BEST VS. THE BEAST

They won't do the whole redemption story again, having Punk lose at SSlam and then win at Mania. That was the same exact thing we saw last year with Triple H!
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