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Old 07-30-2013, 09:41 PM   #1301 (permalink)
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You mean the main eventer who always loses to the bigger stars? Ok...

Brock Lesnar is main eventing WrestleMania 30. He isn't losing to some guy who WWE doesn't even think is worthy of main eventing WrestleMania over The Miz.
Or you could say that Lesnar is the same guy who jobbed twice to HHH and Cena and has admitted that he is only doing it for the money. He isn't the type of guy who cares about win/loss records so he is just being used to give others momentum and big wins. CM Punk losing to big stars is a reason why I think he will beat Lesnar. The win against Lesnar will compensate those losses and make him look like a threat again.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:47 PM   #1302 (permalink)
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Or you could say that Lesnar is the same guy who jobbed twice to HHH and Cena and has admitted that he is only doing it for the money.
Honestly, who gives a fuck what he's doing it for? Lesnar jobbed to Cena because it was Vince's way of punishing him for leaving in 2004, and he lost to Triple H because Triple H is the egomaniac who runs the company and always has to get his win back on somebody he beats so he doesn't look like he's lowering himself. He's supremely insecure and has nearly unlimited power, of course he beat Lesnar. We're talking about CM Punk here, not Cena or Triple H. And Lesnar is going into WrestleMania next, no less. They don't want their special attraction looking bad.

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He isn't the type of guy who cares about win/loss records so he is just being used to give others momentum and big wins.
Clearly THEY care about his win/loss record which is why as soon as he lost to Triple H, he promptly got his win back to even things up. We probably won't see Brock until Mania, and he's scheduled to fight Undertaker at this point, so you better believe he's winning.

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For what? What's he gonna be doing until he wins the Royal Rumble, in SIX MONTHS? Probably not a whole hell of a lot tbh. They're more focused on protecting Lesnar which is precisely the reason the Punk match is happening, to give him fodder to beat to up his stats so that when he faces Taker he has a winning record and the last thing we saw of Lesnar, he was destroying a main eventer.
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Honestly, who gives a fuck what he's doing it for? Lesnar jobbed to Cena because it was Vince's way of punishing him for leaving in 2004, and he lost to Triple H because Triple H is the egomaniac who runs the company and always has to get his win back on somebody he beats so he doesn't look like he's lowering himself. He's supremely insecure and has nearly unlimited power, of course he beat Lesnar. We're talking about CM Punk here, not Cena or Triple H. And Lesnar is going into WrestleMania next, no less. They don't want their special attraction looking bad.



Clearly THEY care about his win/loss record which is why as soon as he lost to Triple H, he promptly got his win back to even things up. We probably won't see Brock until Mania, and he's scheduled to fight Undertaker at this point, so you better believe he's winning.



For what? What's he gonna be doing until he wins the Royal Rumble, in SIX MONTHS? Probably not a whole hell of a lot tbh. They're more focused on protecting Lesnar which is precisely the reason the Punk match is happening, to give him fodder to beat to up his stats so that when he faces Taker he has a winning record and the last thing we saw of Lesnar, he was destroying a main eventer.
Lesnar won't be facing Taker if he beats Punk at Summerslam, he'll be facing Punk again in the mainevent of Mania. If Lesnar is facing Taker at Mania for some odd reason then Punk will beat him at Summerslam. I guarantee that one of these situations will occur exactly as I wrote it, and I'll change my name to THANOS'bitch if I'm wrong, to show how certain I am of it.
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Lesnar won't be facing Taker if he beats Punk at Summerslam, he'll be facing Punk again in the mainevent of Mania. If Lesnar is facing Taker at Mania for some odd reason then Punk will beat him at Summerslam. I guarantee that one of these situations will occur exactly as I wrote it, and I'll change my name to THANOS'bitch if I'm wrong, to show how certain I am of it.
lol, you've got high expectations.

And if Lesnar faces Taker at Mania, it makes no sense for him to job to CM Punk because that will eliminate him completely as a threat to Taker since Punk is the guy he defeated completely clean this year at Wrestlemania. If Lesnar can't beat Punk, what are the odds he beats Taker? (even if he's done it before, that was 11 years ago)
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Lesnar won't be facing Taker if he beats Punk at Summerslam, he'll be facing Punk again in the mainevent of Mania. If Lesnar is facing Taker at Mania for some odd reason then Punk will beat him at Summerslam. I guarantee that one of these situations will occur exactly as I wrote it, and I'll change my name to THANOS'bitch if I'm wrong, to show how certain I am of it.


This makes absolute zero sense lol. How would Brock be somewhat believable to beat taker if he can't beat fucking cm punk???
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lol, you've got high expectations.

And if Lesnar faces Taker at Mania, it makes no sense for him to job to CM Punk because that will eliminate him completely as a threat to Taker since Punk is the guy he defeated completely clean this year at Wrestlemania. If Lesnar can't beat Punk, what are the odds he beats Taker? (even if he's done it before, that was 11 years ago)
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This makes absolute zero sense lol. How would Brock be somewhat believable to beat taker if he can't beat fucking cm punk???
Honestly, Lesnar is so credible that he can lose to Punk and still be the biggest threat to Taker's streak yet at Mania. He doesn't need to beat Punk to be kept strong because he'll be strong regardless. Also Punk needs the win far more than Lesnar and that's really not debatable. Creating a band-aid fix of putting all the part-time talent over the full-time stars just to make a slightly larger profit at Mania is a dumb business decision because it completely discounts long-term growth for the company. WWE understands this which is why they put Cena over Lesnar when they were unsure if Lesnar was going to void on his contract at the beginning. Looking back it was a dumb decision because Lesnar stayed, but they still would have ultimately had Cena go over him in a future match because that's the entire reason the part-time talent is here.
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Honestly, Lesnar is so credible that he can lose to Punk and still be the biggest threat to Taker's streak yet at Mania. He doesn't need to beat Punk to be kept strong because he'll be strong regardless. Also Punk needs the win far more than Lesnar and that's really not debatable. Creating a band-aid fix of putting all the part-time talent over the full-time stars just to make a slightly larger profit at Mania is a dumb business decision because it completely discounts long-term growth for the company. WWE understands this which is why they put Cena over Lesnar when they were unsure if Lesnar was going to void on his contract at the beginning. Looking back it was a dumb decision because Lesnar stayed, but they still would have ultimately had Cena go over him in a future match because that's the entire reason the part-time talent is here.
Same thing people have been saying about Big Show since he debuted in WCW. It doesn't work. You have to win to look strong.

Kane is bigger and scarier (in appearance) than Undertaker. But Undertaker is always seen as a bigger threat. Why? Because 'Taker hardly loses while Kane loses frequently.

Also, you forget Lesnar is going to be on the roster all the way to mid-2015, and he may resign after if he's pleased (he's still young). You're acting like the dude is going to vanish forever after Summerslam.

Even if he doesn't appear every week, they still use his name and image to advertise events, increase fan interest, sell merch, and accumulate profit.
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Lesnar won't be facing Taker if he beats Punk at Summerslam, he'll be facing Punk again in the mainevent of Mania. If Lesnar is facing Taker at Mania for some odd reason then Punk will beat him at Summerslam. I guarantee that one of these situations will occur exactly as I wrote it, and I'll change my name to THANOS'bitch if I'm wrong, to show how certain I am of it.
Uh huh. Sure. They've made it crystal clear that Punk is never getting that spot. I'll bet you think Daniel Bryan's gonna be in the WrestleMania main event eventually too, don't you?

You're just holding out for this hopelessly optimistic delusion because that's what YOU want. Newsflash, WWE does NOT operate based on what you personally think should happen. The sooner you realize that, the better off you're gonna be.

Why in the FUCK would Lesnar lose to a glorified main event jobber to set him up for Undertaker? That makes absolutely no sense. And there won't be a rematch with Punk, unless it's at the Rumble or something. Punk vs Lesnar will not generate the kind of buys they want for Mania.

I don't understand why we're even debating this. It's so clear who's going over. The whole build is based on the fact that Punk is doomed, but he's stupid and he's going to keep getting up. We're probably going to get the WrestleMania 13 finish where Punk gets positioned as the lovable underdog loser who won't quit despite being slaughtered.
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Honestly, Lesnar is so credible that he can lose to Punk and still be the biggest threat to Taker's streak yet at Mania. He doesn't need to beat Punk to be kept strong because he'll be strong regardless.
It doesn't matter if he's Brock Lesnar and a UFC champion which means he can beat everybody in the roster. If he keeps losing, his monster image is going to diminish further and further. It was already bad enough when he jobbed to Cena in his return match, they can't just keep jobbing him out and expect him to still be a big deal.
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Credit to the writers -- they're doing their job. You're supposed to think Punk can't lose.

Full-time vs Part-time means little here. Lesnar pulls in more money in one well-developed PPV than Punk does in an entire year.

The way the feud is booked, Punk will eventually get his retribution against Heyman, his primary enemy. But he won't (and shouldn't) defeat Lesnar.
Rubbish. And Punk needs to go over - end of story.
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