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post #1151 of 2074 (permalink) Old 07-19-2013, 08:35 PM
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No I didn't you illiterate douche nozzle. I said if those guys were given Punk's 434 day push they would be drawing better than he is now. You keep leaving that part out. They need a mega push to be taken seriously. Punk's had a mega push and still has hit his ceiling.

You're telling me that I cant read probably . You just skipped everything and changed the subject like the faggot you're. Insulting me like an idiot will not help your arguments, you skipped almost everything I said and all you did in respond is assume things like its facts . I didn't leave that part it just happens to be stupid and wrong. They're getting mega pushes both The Shield (got clean wins over midcarders/Maineventers) and Bryan just defeated two top guys in Sheamus and Orton clean. They're already heading that path and still not even a slight improvements in ratings. Punk was not even the headliner nor that he had credible opponents in his reign, he just defeated midcarders and got booked like a chicken shit ever since he turned heel.

Punk also said his "shoot" was real. Punk says a lot of things that makes Punk look good. Bryan is the top merch seller right now. It's been reported. Do your own homework. Shortcuts are the reason you border on mental retardation as it is. And Punk's fandom challenged Rock and Taker's, huh? I'd laugh but you've proven yourself to be a sad delusional little man with that statement and to be honest I'm starting to feel like I'm slapping around a special needs case.

What report exactly? how is Bryan the top merch seller right now? I visit the WrestlingInc website like everyday and not one report said that. You're just delusional that's all. Retardation , are you trying to impress someone or you just talk nonsense all the time.

Yeah Punk is responsible for that. Not Bret Hart, Guerrero, Benoit, Jericho or HBK, or Misterio...it was all Punk. Let's all get down on our knees like Brick here and blow the great CM Punk. How did wrestling exist before Puny Phil came along.

What the hell is this? I cant stop laughing. Just complete ignorance and that completely doesn't relate to what I was saying.


What big matches did Punk lose last year? Hell this year his big losing streak is to Rock and Taker. That's it.

When did I say last year I'm talking about this year, but since you mentioned it, who the hell did Punk beat last year? just bunch of mid carders. How is that a big push in your view? Bryan defeating Sheamus and Orton clean meant way more than Punk beating midcarders. I'm talking about this year you clown... He lost to Rock twice, Cena, Taker, Kane all less than 2 months. What else not to consider.?

Honestly is it just me? I can't understand half of what this clown is posting about.

Of course you cant . You cant back up anything with facts just delusions and assumptions from an imbecile. You live in a fantasy world kid where reality is not part of you.

So you are saying Bryan can draw unless it is against bigger names (even though there is no proof of that). Isn't that the argument leveled at Punk all the time. Too bad we don't have weekly quarter hour ratings to prove that. Oh wait we do.

Nope, I said it was above 2.0 because of Henry returning and Show being involved in the WHC against a midget. People wanted that dwarf to be squashed it's fun to watch. Casual loves that.

Ignoramus? Your first big word. And you even used it correctly in a sentence. That's so cute. You keep this up and you'll be off that short bus in no time.



BTW you are right that the Bryan/Orton match didn't draw well. Then the next week a Punk/Orton main event match got beat by a DIVA'S MATCH FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.

Lol, Punk still got a 3.13 overrun and what did Bryan/Orton do 2.78 or something like that. As I said Punk drawing power decreased when he lost mostly all of his credibility against them. Punk also lost against Cena in Raw and freaking Kane all in WM season and WWE want us to believe that hes a threat to Taker after that lol. Yeah great booking and Punk got everything he wanted and more from WWE, yeah right .
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Continue your ignorance, yeah Bryan, Dean, and even Rollins will get better ratings.

Everything else you said still makes no sense and is just a wet dreams of a guy that is biased about Bryan and again you continue to bark about Punk on not being this and that even tho I just showed you facts and opinions of true legends. I can own the living shit out of you easily but I dont want to be kicked out or be suspended for a guy who's not worth it.


Edited: Also , its not actually the first time Divas match gains viewers before the Mainevent just another reason why you dont know a damn thing about ratings, but again, still you try to avoid the fact that Bryan was in the overrun this week and that shows how people could careless about Bryan ending the show.

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Re: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar & Paul Heyman Feud

LOL at the Bryan vs Punk marks attacking each other.

Reminds me of Rock/Punk...while you people were concerned about who was burying who and how Punk was too indy or Rock was too much holding/past his prime back I was focused on enjoying a feud between my alltime Nr.2 and One of my current WWE Top Guys. Of course if A Double ever joined the WWE and feuded with The Rock it would have been an even better experience, but Punk vs Rock felt out of this world for me, considering I never believed in Rock feuding with anybody else but Cena so the Punk/Rock feud was a huge surprise.

Now you got another blockbuster in Punk vs Lesnar, and instead of people thinking about enjoying the match they are concernted about the winner. Well, guess what, even If Lesnar wins, Punk will still look good based on storytelling, I'd rather Punk lose a hard fought battle agaisnt Lesnar and be put over than Lesnar losing against Triple H and Cena in the most awkward fashion and neither guy getting any profit from wrestling him ever.

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Well said. I'm also not too concerned with the winner. I just want a great story that entertains the hell out of me.
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I hope Punk obviously. But either way I'm loving the feud atm, the segment on RAW I personally thought was brilliant!


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This program, thus far, has become exactly what I hoped and more. It's insane how good it is. Two promo-of-the-year segments in a row by Heyman and Punk. Not to mention, Punk has become such an easy character to get behind in this program it's crazy.

This program just makes every other thing on the show look like shit, and not just because everything else is. This program is just so far ahead.






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Agreed, and even Cena isn't really drawing that well anymore. Bryan is different though. He unlike the others you mentioned does connect with kids. How well and for how long remains to be seen. But without a sustained decent push we will never know, so we just have to wait and see.



Agreed but being WWE champ for 434 days was plenty of time. Even if Punk didn't have the final slot of each show he still had the majority of each shows storylines, recaps and talk ups as WWE champion. To pretend otherwise is crazy. All that promotion behind him for 434 days and this is the best he can do. It's pathetic. That kind of push could have made other superstars into goldmines. Bryan, Ambrose, even Wyatt's new character, with a year of a mega push, would have done better than where Punk is now. There is something about Punk that turns certain people off.....fair or unfair.
So it seems we agreed on a lot of things. Where our opinion is different though, is that you think Punk doesnt draw, because of him, while I think he doesnt draw, because of this era and, because of his character.

I just get easily provocated of some people in this tread also, who just look at rating numbers and say this wrestler and this wrestler cant draw, without been able to look behind the numbers.



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I can't believe my fucking eyes when people say CM Punk is better and stronger than Brock Lesnar, seriously if Punk won i'll be so fucking sad. A guy who beat Undertaker in HIAC and beat Hulk Hogan lose to CM Punk?!
i was a big CM Punk fan, but after this feud, i'm done with that loser.
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I can't believe my fucking eyes when people say CM Punk is better and stronger than Brock Lesnar, seriously if Punk won i'll be so fucking sad. A guy who beat Undertaker in HIAC and beat Hulk Hogan lose to CM Punk?!
i was a big CM Punk fan, but after this feud, i'm done with that loser.
I'ts still real to me... dammit. Punk clearly is the better pro wrestler. Nobody said Punk is stronger than Brock. So, you already consider wins and loses in this feud and why is that? Also if you no longer like Punk than why will anyone care. Punk still has more fans than Brock does.
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I can't believe my fucking eyes when people say CM Punk is better and stronger than Brock Lesnar, seriously if Punk won i'll be so fucking sad. A guy who beat Undertaker in HIAC and beat Hulk Hogan lose to CM Punk?!
i was a big CM Punk fan, but after this feud, i'm done with that loser.
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