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Old 07-19-2013, 11:59 AM   #471 (permalink)
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Nobody fucking draws. We're not in the territory era anymore. The WWE BRAND draws. But are you telling me Bryan Danielson won't make the company money because he's the best wrestler? I'm willing to take a wild guess and say that if Bryan was a Miz in the ring, you wouldn't mind this push at all.

Fact is, the crowd want to see him in the main event more than anyone. Because he is the best damn wrestler on the planet. Guys like Barrett, Wyatt and Sandow have nothing on Bryan. And you're stupid as fuck if you think otherwise. Besides that, the guy has the entire building chant his name when he's not even on the show and you're telling me this guy won't make the company money? His t-shirts don't sell? Nobody would pay to see his matches?
Agree with this 100%. If people think Bryan winning the title isn't the best decision for business they are kidding themselves. The dude is hot as fuck right now and they need to capitalise on it big time.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:06 PM   #472 (permalink)
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Default Re: John CEEENAAARRGGHH! vs. GOAT-face for the WWE Championship

You can't have Cena tapping out at Summerslam. That will follow him for the rest of his life --- he'll be hearing "You Tapped Out!" until he's dead. You don't do that to your top face; your top heel, sure. But not your top face, who is already hated by 50% of the audience.

I think Cena should win. He beat a billion dollar movie star at Wrestlemania for that belt. He shouldn't drop it as yet.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:18 PM   #473 (permalink)
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You can't have Cena tapping out at Summerslam. That will follow him for the rest of his life --- he'll be hearing "You Tapped Out!" until he's dead. You don't do that to your top face; your top heel, sure. But not your top face, who is already hated by 50% of the audience.

I think Cena should win. He beat a billion dollar movie star at Wrestlemania for that belt. He shouldn't drop it as yet.
So you should protect the aging and stale "top face" that half your audience hates, over the massively rising star that the crowd loves?
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:21 PM   #474 (permalink)
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You can't have Cena tapping out at Summerslam. That will follow him for the rest of his life --- he'll be hearing "You Tapped Out!" until he's dead. You don't do that to your top face; your top heel, sure. But not your top face, who is already hated by 50% of the audience.

I think Cena should win. He beat a billion dollar movie star at Wrestlemania for that belt. He shouldn't drop it as yet.
Like all those "You Tapped Out" chants Orton got at MITB. Oh wait..
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:28 PM   #475 (permalink)
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Why is there a general consensus that Cena is this almighty draw. The WWE brand is the draw; Cena is too, but he's no Hulkamania or Austin 3:16. He impacts ratings, but he's also placed in the hottest angle or best position on the show. He did not work houseshows last October and most of September - attendance was in-line with what it always is. How many PPVs with dismal buyrates have we seen him headline. I've seen house shows do very impressive numbers with and without Cena. He sells merchandise? Sure, however.

CM Punk's T shirt sold; Daniel Bryan's action figure is at this moment number one best seller on amazon for wrestling figures. They have released numerous T-Shirts. Did I imagine all those $30 Yes shirts in the crowd last/this year?

7/08/2013 - Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan gained 183,000 viewers
7/01/2013 - Orton vs. Kane (Daniel Bryan as referee) gained 217,000 viewers
6/24/2013 - Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan gained 104,000 viewers (this was weak, but should all the blame lay on DB?)
6/17/2013 - Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan gained 248,000 viewers
6/10/2013 - Seth Rollins vs. Daniel Bryan gained 223,000 viewers
6/03/2013 - Ryback vs. Daniel Bryan gained 463,000 viewers
5/27/2013 - The Shield vs. Randy Orton and Daniel Bryan gained 119,000 viewers
5/20/2013 - The Shield vs. Kofi, Kane and Bryan gained 290,000 viewers


Matches and segments that have involved him and Cena have drawn bigger numbers. I'd suggest that people want to watch Daniel Bryan matches and Cena is a draw. A run with the title/subsequent feud, especially if it involves the Bella Twins, will pull good numbers.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:40 PM   #476 (permalink)
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He should... but he wont.
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I really don't know how how he will do it, if he ends up winning. Perhaps John Cena passing out would be best. Cue in the you passed out chant. Most expect Cena to win though I assume.
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"geek"?

You don't know the first thing about business. You talk about guys like Barrett deserving pushes when nobody gives a flying fuck about him. All you NEED is the crowds support and the ability to make the company money. Tons of people have already told you this but you don't seem to get it. The fact that Bryan Danielson is the best wrestler in the world is just a massive bonus but the reason he is getting this push is because he is the most over wrestler in the company. Why is he over? Because he is a fucking machine. Everyone recognises how good he is. And thats why he is so popular.

He deserves to be WWE Champion and fuck anyone who tells me otherwise. Your taste is in wrestlers is awful, guys like Barrett, Sandow, Wyatt, Riley... those guys will never draw or sell out arenas. Bryan Danielson will.
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No, he has charisma, just not much. I'm not gonna claim he's not charismatic since that wouldn't be fair, and I'm always fair, whether or not I like someone or not. But it's average at best.

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See the thing is, I think you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the definition of charisma. By definition Bryan is one of, if not, the most charismatic people on the entire roster.
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Default Re: Should Daniel Bryan Make John Cena Tap Out Like HHH At WM20?

No. The top babyface should never tap out.

Cena is the top babyface, whether you like it or not, so he should never tap in my book.

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"geek"?

You don't know the first thing about business. You talk about guys like Barrett deserving pushes when nobody gives a flying fuck about him. All you NEED is the crowds support and the ability to make the company money. Tons of people have already told you this but you don't seem to get it. The fact that Bryan Danielson is the best wrestler in the world is just a massive bonus but the reason he is getting this push is because he is the most over wrestler in the company. Why is he over? Because he is a fucking machine. Everyone recognises how good he is. And thats why he is so popular.

He deserves to be WWE Champion and fuck anyone who tells me otherwise. Your taste is in wrestlers is awful, guys like Barrett, Sandow, Wyatt, Riley... those guys will never draw or sell out arenas. Bryan Danielson will.
He's no better in the ring now than he was in 2010, and nobody gave a shit about him then. He's over because he actually has a character now. The fans that matter don't give a shit about the fact that he's a "FUCKING MACHINE" as ring work means nothing when it comes to selling PPV's, it's a storyline and character oriented business.
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