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Official HHH vs. Brock Lesnar (No Holds Barred/Career On The Line) Discussion Thread

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In his obsession to settle the score with the 266-pound Anomaly who’s methodically targeted those closest to him, Triple H may have unwittingly ushered in the final chapter of his proud career as a WWE Superstar. The King of Kings will war with the uncontrollable Brock Lesnar in a No Holds Barred Match at WrestleMania on April 7, but the opportunity comes at a cost: If Lesnar wins, Triple H must retire from in-ring competition. (WATCH)

The No Holds Barred and the retirement stipulations were both ploys of Lesnar and Paul Heyman, who convinced the incensed Triple H to sign on for the fight before knowing the exactly what type of contest it would be. Although The Game likely perceives the No Holds Barred environment — in which all maneuvers and weapons are fair game — as an ideal format for him to reciprocate the pain Lesnar’s inflicted on the McMahon-Helmsley family, less foreseeable was the possibility Triple H’s 18 years as a WWE competitor could come to a close at The Grandest Stage of Them All.

Then again, given the tumultuous tone of the his rivalry with the only former WWE, NCAA and UFC Heavyweight Champion in history, maybe Triple H has viewed a WrestleMania showdown with Lesnar as an all-or-nothing affair all along.

After having his arm broken in a loss to The Anomaly at SummerSlam last year, The Game appeared ready to hang up his boots and focus on his front-office duties as WWE COO. Yet, when Lesnar — who quit WWE the night after SummerSlam, boasting he had nothing more to prove — shed his free-agent status and returned in January by breaking the hip of Triple H’s father-in-law, WWE Chairman Mr. McMahon, The Game was spurred back into action. (WATCH: Triple H and Brock’s raging rivalry)

This time, The Game takes on the responsibility of defending not only the company he helps oversee, but also more importantly, his family and closest allies. According to Heyman, for Triple H to fall short against Lesnar would be the ultimate disappointment — a letdown for the WWE Universe, Triple H’s family and The Game himself. But with his career as a Superstar now on the line, the stakes at WrestleMania simply could not be higher for The King of Kings.

There’s no turning back. With the weight of the world on his shoulders, an intensely aggressive fighter as his opponent and absolutely No Holds Barred, can Triple H make Lesnar suffer the consequences for all the hardships he’s caused? Or will one of WWE’s most incredible careers end abruptly and gruesomely at the hands of The Anomaly? One of WWE’s two proudest warriors will suffer a mighty loss at the only event big enough to host such a brawl, WrestleMania, which kicks off on pay-per-view April 7 at 7 ET/4 PT.
 
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Re: Stupidest stipulation ever?

I dunno why people are surprised... it was so obviously going to be a stipulation match... followed by the career on the line stipulation. I guessed on several threads that it'd be HIAC and the career, but I guess no DQ is as good as (given the lack of action the Cell actually sees during matches anyway).

And no, HHH did not retire after Summerslam... not sure where all that speculation is coming from.
 
#70 ·
Re: Stupidest stipulation ever?

The stupidest stipulation ever it's the "if you loses... you're fired" thanks to Cena booking with the Nexus thing. Even with people that are not Cena, you for sure know that he's going to return sooner or later. It doesn't add nothing to the match.
It doesn't add anything when you know for certain that the guy will be back. We all knew Cena would be back. This could legitimately be Triple H's last match, so it's a completely different scenario.
 
#67 ·
Re: Stupidest stipulation ever?

How is this the stupidest stipulation ever? WWE has had many No Holds Barred matches before.
it's a NO DQ match...what's great about that? They hyped up the stipulation so much, one wouldve thought maybe they would have done something epic or unique. Instead, they go to one of the most overused gimmick matches in history.
 
#73 ·
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If the career stip is designed to make us think HHH might lose, it failed horribly. Doesn't really add anything to the match. They should have just did a Hell in a Cell and gave us the most brutal match ever to justify a rematch. Not that I mind a more average street fight, but Heyman oversold the stip last night to the point of hilarity. They way he has talking, you would think it was gonna be fight to the death, only instead to be some pointless stip that means nothing.
 
#75 ·
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So much stupidity in this thread it's mind blowing. The NODQ stip isn't and never was supposed to be the big reveal. It's the career stip that made the impact. Brock has broken Hunter's arm twice and has already beat him fair and square. Triple H has never beat Brock Lesnar and now his career is on the line in his last chance to do it. Of course the stakes have been raised. HHH couldn't beat Brock before. This time there are literally NO rules and he's fighting for his career. Don't really know what else some of you were expecting tbh but I'm pretty sure that had it happened you would still be whining about something.
 
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So much stupidity in this thread it's mind blowing. The NODQ stip isn't and never was supposed to be the big reveal. It's the career stip that made the impact. Brock has broken Hunter's arm twice and has already beat him fair and square. Triple H has never beat Brock Lesnar and now his career is on the line in his last chance to do it. Of course the stakes have been raised. HHH couldn't beat Brock before. This time there are literally NO rules and he's fighting for his career. Don't really know what else some of you were expecting tbh but I'm pretty sure that had it happened you would still be whining about something.
THIS.

This is almost the "reverse" redemption storyline of Rock-Cena II in the sense that this is GAME's last chance to redeem his family and put away the beast once and for all, but if he doesn't do it he loses EVERYTHING.

Such a simple story between two of my all time favorites. Can't wait.
 
#77 ·
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If Triple H will be destroyed by Brock in this match just like Cena was, Hunter can win the MOTY award two years in a row :)
 
#78 ·
Re: Official HHH vs. Brock Lesnar (No Holds Barred/Career On The Line) Discussion Thr

There is a LOT of potential for this match, especially in a Wrestlemania environment. Let them battle up the ramp and onto the stage and back. Stuff that hasn't been done at a Mania before.

I'd love to see them bring back some barbed wire, maybe Hunter's tribute to his wars with the newly-apponted HOF'er Mick Foley.
 
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It wouldn't shock me if this was Trip's last match. He's obviously moving more to his backstage role with talent relations and stuff of the like. Hell, he cut his hair because he isn't going to be working in the ring a lot anymore. It wouldn't shock me at all if this was Triple H's last match. He knows the business, he knows how much Brock is to this company. I don't see this stipulation being on the match if Trips was going to win, it wouldn't make sense. Sure, it adds more interest to the match, but if Brock loses, than what does Triple H do? Do he just quietly leave again until next WrestleMania?

There has to be a storyline to write Triple H off of in-ring work, this is probably it.
 
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Re: Official HHH vs. Brock Lesnar (No Holds Barred/Career On The Line) Discussion Thr

It wouldn't shock me if this was Trip's last match. He's obviously moving more to his backstage role with talent relations and stuff of the like. Hell, he cut his hair because he isn't going to be working in the ring a lot anymore. It wouldn't shock me at all if this was Triple H's last match. He knows the business, he knows how much Brock is to this company. I don't see this stipulation being on the match if Trips was going to win, it wouldn't make sense. Sure, it adds more interest to the match, but if Brock loses, than what does Triple H do? Do he just quietly leave again until next WrestleMania?

There has to be a storyline to write Triple H off of in-ring work, this is probably it.
Pretty perfect post. Hopefully this is what happens.
 
#82 ·
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Even if Triple H loses, I still think he'll find some way to get back into the ring.
 
#83 ·
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HHH is winning people. Hes not gonna retire at WM 29 and not compete at a huge WM next year WM 30
 
#84 ·
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HHH is winning people. Hes not gonna retire at WM 29 and not compete at a huge WM next year WM 30
he doesn't have to win to return. the guy is # 3 corporate person behind his wife and father-in-law. they can easily write some BS to bring him back to the ring. Its that easy.

I don't buy he is losing at all, but just saying
 
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I do think there is a bit of chance chance for HHH to let Brock totally go over him. HHH really does not have anyone else to have a program with after he is done with Brock. He has pretty much worked with every contracted superstars who were former WWE champions.
 
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http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/29/tripleh-retirement-brock-lesnar-wrestlemania-26099960

Flair and HBK on Triple H 'hanging up the boots'



He’s been a cornerstone of WWE for the better part of the last two decades, but on April 7 at WrestleMania, Triple H could be competing in a WWE ring for the very last time when he collides with Brock Lesnar in a barbaric No Holds Barred Match. Thanks to Paul Heyman’s sinister machinations, The Game must retire if he is unable to conquer the former WWE, NCAA and UFC Champion.



With Heyman revealing the stipulations of this bout only after Triple H had signed the contract on the March 18 edition of Raw (WATCH), the WWE COO was unaware that he was agreeing to terms that could prematurely end one of the most celebrated careers in WWE history. The revelation that Triple H’s final match could be fast approaching immediately sent shockwaves throughout the WWE Universe.

“He’s too young to leave the business and has too much left to offer,” two-time WWE Hall of Famer Ric Flair told WWE.com. “If he doesn’t wrestle again, no matter how much time he spends in the office working with the company, he’ll be miserable. He needs to be in the ring. That’s who he is.”

There are only a few who know Triple H quite as well as “The Nature Boy,” who served as a mentor to The Cerebral Assassin as part of Evolution and continues to be The Game’s close confidant. In fact, it was Triple H who inducted the 16-time World Champion into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2008 — the night before Flair was retired at the hands of Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XXIV.



“[At WrestleMania XXIV], the cards were dealt,” Flair explained, thinking back on his own legacy as Triple H’s career hangs in the balance. “I was nowhere near the level of ability as Shawn Michaels that night, and I don’t think anybody expected me to be. But I walked out of there a very proud man. It was sad to leave, but I was very proud.”

Just two years later, it was fellow WWE Hall of Famer HBK who would be facing similar circumstances on The Grandest Stage of Them All, battling The Undertaker in a “Streak vs. Career” Match at WrestleMania XXVI. Like Flair before him, “Mr. WrestleMania” took that long and final walk back to the locker room after falling to The Phenom.
 
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And who would he face at WM30 if he doesn't retire?

I think Lesnar is the perfect opponent to retire him. It would be a great business decision.
CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, Miz, Daniel Bryan, Cody Rhodes so many guys HHH can have a great programs and matchs with. He has so much left to give.
 
#102 ·
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Fairly sure Lesnar can win and they will find a loophole down the line to enable HHH to compete again if that's what he chooses to do.
Exactly

And its not like HHH 'retiring' is going to be a problem anyway, lets say that stip wasnt even in the match or he wins - its not like he'd be getting in the ring again after the match anytime soon anyway - if he wants to come back again next mania or whatever then this whole retirement thing isnt going to be a problem, its wrestling and 'retirement' matches that arent actually retirement matches are commonplace.
 
#99 ·
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When they first announced/teased this match everyone would have said HHH was going over but with the stipulation i'm not so sure. Brock NEEDS this win. I can see Rock - Brock II at Wrestlemania 30.
 
#100 ·
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I don't see a big draw here. HHH's career on the line? He wrestles twice a year. What will he be missing? Isn't he still the COO? Couldn't he negotiate his own contract? I guess the career
stipulation is more meaningful than HHH has to wear a dress for a week.

I mean, I like this match but have been soured on it since Summer Slam. SS felt like
a letdown, but we can't compare it to Cena/Brock. Hoping for the best with this one.
 
#104 ·
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Ziggler retired Jericho some months ago... and he is wrestling today.

Macho Man lost a career vs career match at WM7... and he won the WWF title at WM8 LOL.
Ziggler didn't retire Jericho, it was explicitly a contract match, not a career match. While there's obviously nothing stopping them reversing career defeats I don't think they'd intentionally do it, it'd cheapen the concept.
 
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