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Old 03-12-2013, 08:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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He was away for like 7 years and only appears a total amount of 2 months every year. How come they don't develop any new stars during all that time?

The part-timers are nothing more than the scapegoat for WWE's inability to create stars. Take Ryback for an example. They could've turned him into a big name by now but instead they've jobbed him out in every single match he's had that matters. I would certainly not blame THE ROCK because they booked him so badly. And it looks like he wont even get his revenge against The Shield after 3 losses now.
-It's not Rock's fault for WWE not creating stars

-Ryback is a great example.Here was a guy who was the most over guy since Jeff Hardy in 2009 and WWE completely killed his momentum
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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the big jump in domestic has to have the WWE creamin' their pants.

Great number.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Compared to previous years:

2012 443,000
2011 446,000
2010 462,000
2009 450,000
2008 533,000
Damn, Orton/Hardy did big business that year.

This year's number is impressive though. There was a lot of hype surrounding the event and it looks to have paid off for Rock/Punk and WWE.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:16 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Its amazing that (some)people are blaming The Rock for WWE's failure of creating new superstars.When someone shuts his eyes off from the truth,what more can you say.But one thing is sure neither these people understand the business side of things,nor do they care to understand!


Also WWE just can't create new stars,new stars need to get over by their own talent.Take the example of Rock himself.WWE pushed him as first third generation wrestler 'Rocky Maivia' and what happened,he became one of the most hated superstars of all time.But he worked hard,and became the biggest star of all time in The Rock,even though WWE never really booked him like Superman/invincible (like Austin).


Understand it bro,there is no substitute for talent and hard work.If there are no superstars in the WWE right now,don't blame The Rock,blame their own talent or work ethics(or lack of it).
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Seems like they lost money on the PPV revenue, they spent more on advertising and promoting Rock vs Punk and the return wasn't profitable with only 23,000 domestic increase. Not to mention The Rock is going to take a big chunk of it as his payday. Dave Meltzer says the exact same happened with Survivor series 2011.


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Damn, Orton/Hardy did big business that year.
It wasn't really Orton/hardy, Hardy even at his peak didn't move PPV numbers, he was a tremendous merchandise draw however. The main angle built around rumble was the most promoted and heavily pushed for the event, and ofcourse the new york market usually helps going in.
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The problem with building new stars is not the Rock. But I'll tell you the problem:

Vince pushes guys non-stop from April until January. And then suddenly he gets cold feet.

He wouldn't take any risk.
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It wasn't really Orton/hardy, Hardy even at his peak didn't move PPV numbers, he was a tremendous merchandise draw however. The main angle built around rumble was the most promoted and heavily pushed for the event, and ofcourse the new york market usually helps going in.
I don't remember the Royal Rumble match getting as heavily promoted as Orton/Hardy for the WWE Championship. You do have a point with the New York market and promotion there playing a role, but I'm inclined to think Orton/Hardy was a factor too. That program received a substantial amount of build with Jeff's stunts on Randy and the pre-match hype videos were well done.

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Blaming The Rock for WWE's booking faults they make year round is fucking stupid. Having a guy like Rock on the show is helping them in exposure. All of the part timers bring the eyes, bring the ratings, bring the big time feel. This is when booking is supposed to capitalize on that and book and write interesting angles and characters to build around that. They are letting all that slip away. They fail to do that because they are on crack or something. Its not Rock's fault they cant book for shit. And as others have said the guy is not around enough to truly be taking or hogging the spot from anyone. Stop with the bullshit. They had 7 years without the guy, the pretty much failed. Not his fault. With or without part timers they still cant get shit right and 2010 is a good example of this.

Only thing that is a cancer is your post


Do you work for wwe? No. So him helping ratings shouldn't effect you one fucking bit. It seems all you care about is mainstream exposure which is idiotic with rock burying talent and cutting god awful promos. The buys/ratings don't effect you one bit so have a better excuse than that bs.
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Do you work for wwe? No. So him helping ratings shouldn't effect you one fucking bit. It seems all you care about is mainstream exposure which is idiotic with rock burying talent and cutting god awful promos. The buys/ratings don't effect you one bit so have a better excuse than that bs.
First off, this is not an excuse.

2nd off did you even read my damn post?

How does my post indicate that ALL I care about is mainstream exposure. All I did was state the obvious for The Rock and any part timer.

What I posted is the benefit of having them around, and it is a fact that WWE isn't capitalizing on that exposure, and its sad. Thats not all I care about though so you can fuck off with that. Im glad that these older guys bring eyes to the WWE so that other full time guys get the chance to have more people see them work. Im not the only one who shares this view as guys like Dolph Ziggler, Miz and so on have stated this. I dont need to work in the company to care and appreciate the good that having Rock on the show does.

I can still be a fan and talk about and look at things from a wider perspective. Especially if I see positives for it. Its no different from you talking about how Rock needs to put guys over, hes burying talent, because its "good for business." You are just negative and irrational about it

As a fan, I can care about how many people get to see some of the full time guys work. As a fan, I can care about seeing CM Punk be put on a grand stage and work in a high profile championship feud with a big star like Rock. Same For Cena/Rock. Rock working with them gave us high profile feuds. Feuds we do not get often.

As a fan, I can enjoy seeing guys like Rhodes Scholars or Daniel Bryan cut back and forth promos with Rock.

Those are easily examples and positives of having Rock and it has nothing to do with ratings & buys.

The problem is like I said WWE, not The Rock are not putting on any interesting and compelling angles for these guys to work around with the added benefit of having Rock on their show.

You're a silly for blaming The Rock for WWE's booking decisions. Especially ones they make year round and have been making long before he was in the company again.

The guy hasnt buried any talent and the so called bad promos to you is entirely subjective.

You are also sounding silly for using the "buried" term when it has no merit in this situation.

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First off, this is not an excuse.

2nd off did you even read my damn post?

How does my post indicate that ALL I care about is mainstream exposure. All I did was state the obvious for The Rock and any part timer.

What I posted is the benefit of having them around, and it is a fact that WWE isn't capitalizing on that exposure, and its sad. Thats not all I care about though so you can fuck off with that. Im glad that these older guys bring eyes to the WWE so that other full time guys get the chance to have more people see them work. Im not the only one who shares this view as guys like Dolph Ziggler, Miz and so on have stated this. I dont need to work in the company to care and appreciate the good that having Rock on the show does.

I can still be a fan and talk about and look at things from a wider perspective. Especially if I see positives for it. Its no different from you talking about how Rock needs to put guys over, hes burying talent, because its "good for business." You are just negative and irrational about it

As a fan, I can care about how many people get to see some of the full time guys work. As a fan, I can care about seeing CM Punk be put on a grand stage and work in a high profile championship feud with a big star like Rock. Same For Cena/Rock. Rock working with them gave us high profile feuds. Feuds we do not get often.

As a fan, I can enjoy seeing guys like Rhodes Scholars or Daniel Bryan cut back and forth promos with Rock.

Those are easily examples and positives of having Rock and it has nothing to do with ratings & buys.

The problem is like I said WWE, not The Rock are not putting on any interesting and compelling angles for these guys to work around with the added benefit of having Rock on their show.

You're a silly for blaming The Rock for WWE's booking decisions. Especially ones they make year round and have been making long before he was in the company again.

The guy hasnt buried any talent and the so called bad promos to you is entirely subjective.

You are also sounding silly for using the "buried" term when it has no merit in this situation.
Amen, especially the bold underlined part.
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