[Shazayum]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

I still do.



Doesn't matter. I already pointed out the fact you don't need to be relevant to face those 3.



No. Just because the match hasn't happened in years doesn't make it a dream match. For a match to be called a dream match, it needs to never happen. Cena/Taker has happened before.

I'd say Cena/Taker at wrestlemania is a dream match not because it hasn't happened before, which you pointed out it has, but because of the circumstances surrounding the match. They have changed and Cena is the greatest threat to Undertaker's streak in years, perhaps ever.

[screw you mcmahon]

Originally Posted by Shazayum

I'd say Cena/Taker at wrestlemania is a dream match not because it hasn't happened before, which you pointed out it has, but because of the circumstances surrounding the match. They have changed and Cena is the greatest threat to Undertaker's streak in years, perhaps ever.

Cena/Taker is not a dream match. A dream match has to be something that no one expects has the possibility of happening. For example, Rock/HBK has almost no chance of happening because everything has to fall in place perfectly for a so called "dream" to become a reality. Cena could have faced Undertaker at any point during the last 8 years at WM, it wasn't as if everything had to fall in place perfectly for it to happen or that Vince had to pull strings to make it happen like he would have to for a match like HBK/Rock to happen. People confuse dream match with a high drawing match, they are not the same thing regardless of different circumstances. Just because something is a high drawing match that people want to see doesn't mean it's a dream match. Plus while I'm all for Cena/Taker happening, I think people are way off base to think Cena could end the streak. You can pretty bank of the fact that Cena's not ending the streak at least on the first attempt. I mean let's face it, if he didn't beat Rock on the first attempt, then I don't see any reason to believe he'll be able to beat Taker on the first attempt even if Cena were to defeat Rock at WM 29.

[Gamblor]

Originally Posted by austin316 G.O.A.T

He went years without saying more than 3 words.

I hope he doesn't cut his usual stuff about hell,demon,soul etc.

Agreed. I do want to hear Taker cut at least one promo in the next few weeks before Mania, but if I have no interest in hearing the promos that go nowhere like what he and HHH cut on the road to Wrestlemania 27 (besides the final segment with HBK).

If he cut a promo where he brings up all the guys he's faced and beaten at Wrestlemania, HBK, HHH, Batista, Ric Flair, Edge, Randy Orton, Mark Henry, Kane, Big Show, Diesel , and many others, how will Punk be able to do what none of them have been able to do? Here Punk can bring up how he's the Best in the World and his usual stuff, but focus more on the fact he has the urn, The Undertaker's source of power, the same urn Paul Bearer himself returned with to give Taker his power back back in 2010 (very unlikely they'd mention that as it's happened more than a few weeks ago, but still...). Now without Bearer around, Punk in possession of the urn, and Taker's battles with HHH that have taken more out of him than any other battles in his career, Taker is at his weakest.

At this point, have Punk come down to the ring and start trading blows with Taker. Taker looks to get the upper hand, and lifts Punk up for the chokeslam but Punk gets out of the grip before getting slammed down, lifts Taker up and hits him with the GTS. He grabs the urn and starts talking trash over Taker's body. Taker grabs Punk's throat, but Punk proceeds to bash Taker's head in with the urn, thus asserting his dominance and proving his point. It makes Punk look like a kayfabe threat to the streak (to some degree) and makes Taker, the face, being the one to have to prove something.

Granted, they did already do Punk vs. weakened Taker and Taker still won, but it would be fine if they left that part out or played up the fact Taker is even weaker right now than he was back then, while Punk has gotten better. proven by the fact he has the longest championship reign in the past 25 years.

But yeah, Taker doesn't have to speak much. He just has to perform exceptionally in the match like he's done at the last 6 Wrestlemania's. However that's my ideal situation for the feud, and the whole premise of Taker being weakened is what I wanted the feud based on in the first place (in addition to Punk wanting to have the greatest achievement of all-time, that of ending Taker's streak).

[joeycalz]

I have been thinking about this for awhile and I think there is only one true way this match should end and that is by Punk passing out in Hells Gates without ever tapping. That is the one way in which Taker will win the match, but Punk will come out looking much stronger the other way without winning. Taker will probably go off on his merry way after Wrestlemania, so in order to keep Punk strong, this is pretty much the only decision that should be even thought of in my mind. After the match you can have Taker extend Punk his hand as a show of "respect" and have Punk shake it. The next night Punk can go back to being his heel self, but he claim he never tapped out, thus never really "lost." I think it's a win-win for everyone involved.

There are also rumors this match will close the show. If that sequence happens to end the show, it will send the fans home happy I think. It's very unconventional, but I think it would work 1000%.

[96powerstroker]

Like Bret hart
/ Steve Austin of wm13 made Austin a made man and best match in some eyes of wrestlemania. I love your idea the question is whoever books it have they seen that significant of that match

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by Shazayum

I'd say Cena/Taker at wrestlemania is a dream match not because it hasn't happened before, which you pointed out it has, but because of the circumstances surrounding the match. They have changed and Cena is the greatest threat to Undertaker's streak in years, perhaps ever.

I don't think just because circumstances change then the status of a match changes too. By that definition, Taker/Orton is also a dream match because Orton has changed so much from their last encounter.

Originally Posted by screw you mcmahon

Cena/Taker is not a dream match. A dream match has to be something that no one expects has the possibility of happening. For example, Rock/HBK has almost no chance of happening because everything has to fall in place perfectly for a so called "dream" to become a reality. Cena could have faced Undertaker at any point during the last 8 years at WM, it wasn't as if everything had to fall in place perfectly for it to happen or that Vince had to pull strings to make it happen like he would have to for a match like HBK/Rock to happen. People confuse dream match with a high drawing match, they are not the same thing regardless of different circumstances. Just because something is a high drawing match that people want to see doesn't mean it's a dream match.

Originally Posted by screw you mcmahon

Plus while I'm all for Cena/Taker happening, I think people are way off base to think Cena could end the streak. You can pretty bank of the fact that Cena's not ending the streak at least on the first attempt. I mean let's face it, if he didn't beat Rock on the first attempt, then I don't see any reason to believe he'll be able to beat Taker on the first attempt even if Cena were to defeat Rock at WM 29.

I think their "fear" of Cena ending The Streak lies more in Vince's insistence on Cena being regarded as the greatest thing in the history of wrestling EVER. They're afraid he will end The Streak to make that happen.

But, have no fear, Taker will never face Cena at any Wrestlemania. He never faced a WWE Icon at Wrestlemania for more than 20 years, he's not gonna start now.

Originally Posted by joeycalz

I have been thinking about this for awhile and I think there is only one true way this match should end and that is by Punk passing out in Hells Gates without ever tapping. That is the one way in which Taker will win the match, but Punk will come out looking much stronger the other way without winning. Taker will probably go off on his merry way after Wrestlemania, so in order to keep Punk strong, this is pretty much the only decision that should be even thought of in my mind. After the match you can have Taker extend Punk his hand as a show of "respect" and have Punk shake it. The next night Punk can go back to being his heel self, but he claim he never tapped out, thus never really "lost." I think it's a win-win for everyone involved.

Hm, while Punk passing out isn't a bad idea, I'd rather add the referee raising his hand three times to signal his defeat so that the event won't be compared to or called as Austin's copycat for the rest of the time. Though, I'm sure Vince will still book him as a heel, but the fans will respect him after that showing.

Originally Posted by joeycalz

There are also rumors this match will close the show. If that sequence happens to end the show, it will send the fans home happy I think. It's very unconventional, but I think it would work 1000%.

Would be good if it closes the show.

[joeycalz]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Would be good if it closes the show.

It's in an article on Bleacher Report, so I wouldn't even take it seriously, but the article states that an internal poll says the fans (including casuals) are more invested in the mystery behind the Taker vs. Punk match. It's not a TERRIBLE idea. If there is one kind of match, besides a WWE Championship/Rock/Lesnar (based on their drawing ability) match that can main event a Wrestlemania believably, it's the Streak Match.

Also, New York/Chicago are probably the only two cities in which entertaining the idea of having the 1C main event over the A and Bs is a good idea. The crowd will still very much be alive and if it goes on last, there is much more of a mysterious sense of the streak ending as opposed to putting it in the middle of the show. The streak should never end halfway through a Wrestlemania, it would destroy the crowd. Putting it on last actually makes a lot of sense, entertainment wise.

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by joeycalz

It's in an article on Bleacher Report, so I wouldn't even take it seriously, but the article states that an internal poll says the fans (including casuals) are more invested in the mystery behind the Taker vs. Punk match. It's not a TERRIBLE idea. If there is one kind of match, besides a WWE Championship/Rock/Lesnar (based on their drawing ability) match that can main event a Wrestlemania believably, it's the Streak Match.

Also, New York/Chicago are probably the only two cities in which entertaining the idea of having the 1C main event over the A and Bs is a good idea. The crowd will still very much be alive and if it goes on last, there is much more of a mysterious sense of the streak ending as opposed to putting it in the middle of the show. The streak should never end halfway through a Wrestlemania, it would destroy the crowd. Putting it on last actually makes a lot of sense, entertainment wise.

But then again, this is WWE. I'd not put it past Vince to book Taker/Punk as maybe the 4th or 5th match of the night. Though, no doubt it will steal the show.

Besides, look at it this way, if Punk/Taker is put halfway, they can receive the biggest crowd reaction in the show (like Taker/HHH did last year) but the crowds will still have time to rest and recuperate their energy to completely trash Brock/HHH and leave during Rock/Cena since they already saw the freakin show stealer in Punk/Taker.

[Taker2theMoon]

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[TheHawk]

I am being hopeful and voting 20-1. If CM Punk can do that, he will be the biggest thing since Austin in the WWE.

Odds are though that Taker will win and Punk will do something to get his heat back.

Either way, two of my all time favorites and they will probably steal the show.