Tyrion, I can understand your argument but Sandow jobbing in a tag team match doesn't completely mean he is buried.
No, it just means the burial he's had done to him is being maintained and the hole's getting deeper.
Yes, his position isn't very good at the moment but he has just been in the WWE for 9-10 months (under this current gimmick) and it will take time to rebuild.
He shouldn't have been destroyed IN THE FIRST PLACE. That's the whole point, he's not valued. The fact that they did this to him proves it.
Just look at Ziggler at the beginning of 2012. He was taking the pinfall loses in tag team matches and Swagger was protected. Ziggler was losing against Clay in single matches whereas Swagger was losing by count out.
Well isn't that a nifty piece of trivia. I guess the fact that Clay was getting a push at the time and now he's buried doesn't factor into the equation whatsoever...
Look at them now. I know you're going to say "this isn't the 1990s where pushes come years later, this is 2012 where pushes must be quick".
And I'm right, that's the way WWE works.
Apart from Sheamus and Del Rio, who has been over-pushed? One thing that the current product gets critised for is rushing pushes and getting wrestlers straight to the main event card.
Ryback, and who are the only new stars WWE has made in the last 3 years? Sheamus, Del Rio, Ryback. Isn't THAT interesting? I WONDER why?
Maybe because nobody else gets PUSHED.
People can criticize it all they want, it doesn't change the way WWE books. You've GOT to be pushed fast now, or they forget about you. They just do, that's how it works today.
Swagger, Tensai and others failed because of that.
No, they failed because they're Swagger and Tensai.
My point is that even if Sandow loses, it's not a career-defying loss. You don't get put in segments with DX and The Rock (two times now) for no reason.
Sure you do. I'm sure I could find plenty of people who've had segments with Rock and DX and they never won a world title. Hell, 3MB had a segment with The Undertaker. I guess they matter.
Have you seen Clay matches pre funkasaurus and Tensai NJPW matches and rhodes schollars losing in a competitive match to the next big show and mark henry but still look good I don't see whats wrong with that
I've seen enough of Tensai in Japan, he was a slow, sluggish, terrible big man just like he is now. Never saw Clay before WWE, don't recall him having anything but squash matches when he was with Del Rio either, but regardless, if they suck NOW, that's all that matters, not what they did in the past.
These two are NOT the next Big Show and Mark Henry, either, let's just get that out of the way. Fuck, Tensai's as old as they are. I also doubt this match will even be competitive, given the size difference and the way Sandow and Cody are getting booked.