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post #101 of 283 (permalink) Old 02-08-2013, 02:58 AM
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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

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It doesn't matter if they look strong, if matters if they WIN. Winning elevates them, if they lose, they're worse off than they are now, because as of this point, everybody who's tested them has failed, so the aura will be off them and they'll turn into geeks just like Nexus did.
Let's say they DO win. Where do they go from here? That's arguably the top 3 faces of the company and you don't get higher than that. Do they start picking on guys like Miz and Kofi?



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Cena, Ryback, and Sheamus scheduled to face the Shield in a 6 man tag at EC. Early in the PPV (before this match), Ryback is attacked and taken out (with a steel pipe or whatever) by a masked man. Cena and Sheamus are given until their match to find a new partner. Orton comes forward and volunteers. He's been attacked by Shield too (I believe). During the match, Orton turns on his partners and helps Shield win the match. It is later revealed (maybe on RAW the next night) that it was Orton who attacked Ryback.

This would not only help continue to make the Shield look strong (as opposed to jobbing them out in their second real tv/ppv match), but it would turn the fans against Orton, which may be hard to do without aligning him with other hated heels.
I like this idea.



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I completely disagree - you can still look strong without winning and we've seen it many times in the past.

What is considered by most to be Stone Cold's star-making performance? His submission match with Bret Hart where he passed out in the Sharpshooter - he didn't win that match.

Would anyone consider Shawn Michaels to 'look like a geek' after his two Mania losses to the Undertaker? Of course not! They were even matches where both guys looked they could win (even though no one expected Taker to lose, there were moments where you thought Shawn might really pull it out).

This whole notion that you have to win to be considered a threat is ridiculous - as long as the offense is even & Cena/Ryback/Sheamus sell the fact they've been through a war afterwards, then the Shield will be completely fine. What WILL make them look bad is if they beat the piss out of the Super Friends for the entire match, then fall victim to one big move... that's called bad booking & if Cena & Co. no-sell after the winning pinfall, then they're the ones you should be upset with.
Completely agree with you. It still seems like too many people here don't understand the word "burial" and they throw the word around when it doesn't even apply.



According to everyone posting here, it seems like it's a lose-lose situation when you take and factor everything in. This is what I gather from reading all the posts:

The Shield wins
Pros - 1) It keeps them looking strong.
Cons - 1) Ryback loses yet another PPV, killing his character that much more. 2) This will be 3 months and counting where Shield gets the upperhand on Ryback. He's got to get some wins at some point before fans start losing interest. 3) They're feuding with the top 3 faces of the company. Anything they do after this is only going to be a "demotion".

Cena/Sheamus/Ryback wins
Pros - 1) Ryback gets some payback and possible closure. 2) Cena looks strong for his match against Rock.
Cons - 1) The Shield loses their "aura" and will become "geeks" like The Nexus. 2) They're buried and that's the end of The Shield.

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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

Keep Ryback's minutes limited and this match will probably become the current front-runner for WWE MOTY until Wrestlemania rolls around.





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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

To be honest, while I hate the word burial; Cena's track record of beating teams and then said team dissolving in mere months is a cause for concern.

Honestly, I think this is a match that The Shield kind of needs to win to solidify themselves period, and could very well result in the turn Cena needs to make a real buildup against The Rock.

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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

Really don't understand why Cena needs to look good going in to WM.

He's been at the top of the WWE for the past 7 years, he's bulletproof. That, and the fact he doesn't sell any loss at all means that the fans forget anyway.

Take TLC for example, who remembers Dolph beating Cena? Practically no one.

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I'd prefer it if Orton replaced Cena. It would create the perfect opportunity for him to turn heel.
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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

Anyone has hope on The Shield winning at EC?

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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

The Shield is gonna get got
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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

Got the feeling we might get Maddox in as referee, would be an interesting dynamic, both sides have beef with him, who knows how he'd call it? A bit like HBK last wrestlemania, to a lesser extent.

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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

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Got the feeling we might get Maddox in as referee, would be an interesting dynamic, both sides have beef with him, who knows how he'd call it? A bit like HBK last wrestlemania, to a lesser extent.
I hope Maddox doesn't start crying in the corner of the ring too

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Re: John Cena, Ryback, & Sheamus vs The Shield

This match is fourth on my list of matches that I look forward to. Should be interesting either way, though.

1. Elimination Chamber (SD)
2. THE ROCK
3. Alberto Del Rio vs Big Show
4. This match
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