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Old 02-04-2013, 06:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Who has had the best matches at Wrestlemania?

I don't think anyone can be considered more consistent over a long period than HBK at Wrestlemania.

You'd also pitch in for The Undertaker but he had some stinkers (through little fault of his own) in the earlier WM matches of his career.
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Default Re: Who has had the best matches at Wrestlemania?

Chris Benoit had great matches at Wrestlemania

2000 - Jericho/Benoit/Angle
2001 - Angle/Benoit
2003 - 3 way tag
2004 - Triple thread
2005 - MITB (he and Benjamin stole the show)
2006 - JBL/Benoit (mediocre)
2007 - MVP/Benoit (pretty good imo)
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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He's had a lot of big matches, but in terms of quality I don't think he passed Savage.

I'll go through some of his big name matches:

  • vs Bret at 'Mania 12: 60 minutes of wrestling without a near fall.
  • vs Austin at 'Mania 14: A big, important match that solidified Austin. But it was not a good match.
  • vs Jericho at 'Mania 19: This was okay, though a few minutes too long.
  • vs HHH vs Benoit at 'Mania 20: Good.
  • vs Angle at 'Mania 21: Here, this begins my biggest knock on HBK's 'Mania matches. Too many near falls. We didn't need to see him kick out of a top-rope Angle Slam. We didn't need to see him stay in the Ankle Lock for 10 minutes. That's excessive. It's cheap. A great match doesn't rely on Signature move after Signature move after Signature move.
  • vs Vince at 'Mania 22: About 8 years too late. We had already seen Vince fight with so many wrestlers that this felt like a rehash. It was like an inferior, outdated re-do of Hogan vs Vince at 'Mania XIX.
  • vs Cena at 'Mania 23: Too much like a RAW main-event rather than a Wrestlemania match.
  • vs Flair at 'Mania 24: Same as above. People rate this highly because of the sentimentality involving Flair's retiring.
  • vs Undertaker at 'Mania 25: Same as Angle 21'. It was an overeliance on signature moves. Undertaker kicks out of Sweet Chin Music. Then Shawn Michaels kicks out of the Chokeslam. Undertaker kicks out of another Sweet Chin Music. Shawn Michaels kicks out of Last Ride. Undertaker kicks out of next Sweet Chin. Shawn Michaels kicks out of Tombstone, etc. It's cheap.
  • vs Undertaker at 'Mania 26: Same story as above.
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Mania 10: Great
Mania 11: Ok
Mania 12: Good
Mania 14: Ok. Shawn was injured. Austin kinda carried him.
Mania 19: Good
Mania 20: Great
Mania 21: Great
Mania 22: Good considering he was facing Vince McMahon
Mania 23: Good
Mania 24: Good
Mania 25: Great
Mania 26: Great
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Default Re: Who has had the best matches at Wrestlemania?

Clearly Shawn Michaels aka Mr. Wrestlemania

WM X: Great to amazing
WM XI: Good [it gets shitted on a lot]
WM XII: Amazing [one of the best matches of all time]
WM XIV: Good to great [he did great despite his injured back]
WM XIX: Great to amazing [his best match and a legit 5 star match]
WM XX: Great to amazing [saw this match live and loved it]
WM 21: Great [another 5 star match]
WM 22: Good [not his greatest WM match]
WM 23: Great
WM 24: Great
WM 25: Amazing [one of the greatest matches in Mania history]
WM 26: Amazing [another great rematch]
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Nobody comes close to the showstopper, the icon, the main event, the headliner, mr hall of fame, Mr wrestlemania... The heart break kid shawn GOAT michaels.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: Who has had the best matches at Wrestlemania?

Shawn Michaels is definitely there. Undertaker has had many great matches too but also bad ones like 11 and 20.

Benoit could have been there if he had gotten better matches. WM19 gets put in random tag match although it was decent. WM22 wasted with JBL, WM23 with a rookie MVP. None of them were bad but Benoit just didn't get the opportunities he should've.

To break from the norm, Randy Orton's WM record is good too.

WM20 - good
WM21 - great
WM22 - okay
WM23 - great MITB
WM24 - very good
WM25 - bad
WM26 - okay
WM27 - good
WM28 - good

And Stone Cold also has good matches. Classics such as 13, 17 and 19. Good matches in 14 and 15 and an okay throwaway match with Scott Hall at 18.
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Christian has been involved in some great matches with the ladder matches at 16 and 17 and various MITB matches

But Shawn Michaels all the way
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Btw the guy who basically called Shawn Michaels matches over rated is clearly ignorant to great wrestling
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Default Re: Who has had the best matches at Wrestlemania?

I think Shawn had more great matches than anyone at Wrestlemania.

- Bit of an underrated gem, but I think The Rockers Vs. Haku/Barbarian at VII is the best opener in Mania history behind Bret/Owen at X. Very good tag match.
- The Ladder Match at X
- His match with Austin at XIV was one of the biggest Mania main events ever without question.
- His return match with Jericho was awesome.
- The 3 Way at XX, I think, is arguably the greatest Main Event in Mania history.
- His match with Angle at 21 was a fantastic clash of styles.
- His match with Flair at XXIV was emotionally charged and executed extremely well.
- His two matches with Taker at XXV & XXVI were both awesome in ring displays.

And honestly, the only bad ones for Shawn I would say are Rockers Vs. Orient Express at VI which was surprisingly lifeless and his match with Diesel at XI which was kind of sloppy. Other than that, all the other matches I didn't list were at the very least, good. His match with Cena at 23 is by far Cena's Best Mania match for sure.

Savage had some AWESOME Mania matches. I am not doubting that at all. But I think by virtue of Shawn being around longer, he was able to have more classic Mania matches.

- His match with Steamboat at III was a game changer for wrestling.
- The ending to his match with DiBiase at IV was one of the great early Wrestlemania moments.
- His match at V with Hogan was the best Mania main event up to that point.
- His match with Warrior at VII was fan-fucking-tastic. Might be my personal favorite Mania match ever.
- and his match with Flair at VIII was awesome.

And the rest of his matches at Mania? They were good! Entertaining at least. But again, Shawn just had more of them by virtue of being there for much longer. So overall, I'd give the nod to Michaels, though Savage was the Michaels of the first decade of Wrestlemania. More often than not, he was having the best match regardless of what the main event was.
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