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Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFETIME

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Less than a month after winning the Royal Rumble Match and announcing his intention of challenging for the WWE Title at WrestleMania 29, John Cena found out who his championship opposition will be on The Grandest Stage of Them All: The Rock.

The Great One upended CM Punk at Elimination Chamber, the last pay-per-view before The Show of Shows, to retain the cherished WWE Championship and solidify his place in WrestleMania’s main event.

In The Brahma Bull, Cena will be facing a foe who helped set in motion the tailspin of a year that was 2012.

A 10-time former WWE Champion, the Cenation leader has not held the title since October 2011, and the disappointment of his drought was exacerbated last year by his high-profile loss to The Great One at WrestleMania XXVIII. The devastating loss bookended one of Cena’s toughest calendar years, to date. A series of distractions, from dealing with former General Manager John Laurinaitis to falling into an ill-fated romance with AJ Lee, kept Cena away from the WWE Title picture for much of the year. And even once he found himself in title contention, he was unable to pry the WWE Title from Punk, making 2012 a largely unproductive year for one of the most decorated competitors in WWE history.

Fortunately for the Cenation leader, 2013 appears to be off to a markedly better start, thanks to his huge win at Royal Rumble. The larger question facing Cena is whether he will be able to keep the momentum going all the way to April 7, when he faces the Superstar who dealt him one of the biggest losses of his career.

The Rock has shown no signs of ring rust since returning to WWE and winning the WWE Title in January. In fact, The Great One overcame great obstacles — including The Shield and The Second City Saint’s underhanded tactics — en route to dethroning Punk and subsequently turning back his challenge in a rematch.

With The Rock and Cena informed by their epic encounter last year in Miami, both competitors will assuredly come to MetLife Stadium with a more sharpened focus than ever before. Cena is out to avenge last year’s WrestleMania loss to The Great One. The Rock, on the other hand, appears intent on keeping the championship he waited more than a decade to reclaim — the title that represents the sport that not only propelled him to success on the silver screen, but also captured his heart and mind at a young age.

Now, all that separates The Rock and John Cena is time. On April 7, under the brightest lights that sports-entertainment has to offer, who will leave will the top prize: The Rock or John Cena?







WWE NEWS: Rock outlines long-term return plan, why he returned to WWE in the first place, previews WM29 main event vs. Cena



WWE champion The Rock outlined the long-term plans working with John Cena in an interview with Matt Fowler of IGN.com discussing his TV shoot for "The Hero."

"You have to understand that my return back into the WWE was years in the making. And since I've been back, it's been a three year-long journey that started at WrestleMania 27 in Atlanta," Rock said. "So, John has always been my first choice (to work with)."

Rock added that when he decided to return to WWE, he surveyed the roster and wanted to work with the full-time wrestler he could do the most business with.

"Here's the thing," Rock said. "The question was that if I was going to go back in the WWE, how could I go back and make the most impact? With who can I headline WrestleMania in that company and make the most impact? And the bottom line is that it continues to be John Cena. Just in terms of, and we'll use a Hollywood term here, box office appeal. Universal appeal. Athletic pairing. So there are a lot of reasons."

Rock also acknowledged that part of his mission returning to WWE is to elevate Cena, which results in strengthening WWE by having its top full-time star in a stronger position. But, he said he looks forward to helping bring massive attention to WWE, Cena, and WrestleMania in the New York market.

"What I'm talking about is being able to go back to the WWE and give back to the business, which is in my blood and has allowed me a platform to perform which then, 12 years ago, allowed me to make he transition to Hollywood," Rock said. "So the scenario I've dreamed of is that I'm able to go back, become WWE champion, go into the what is considered the biggest marketplace in the world, which is the New York City area, at MetLife Stadium and headline WrestleMania as champion and give back to the business, the fans, the company, and their number one hero. So I couldn't have asked for a better scenario and we're going to have a blast."

What about match quality working with Cena in the WM29 main event? Rock said, "I think we're going to have a great match and my hope is that it's going to be a classic."

Link - http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_68992.shtml
Get ready...it's whoopass season, folks! :cena3

Just Bring It, bitch! :rock3


 
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

I can't be bothered with be the booker and we don't have a "ramblings of a fantasist" section so i'll just post this here.

I think Cena turning heel would be the best thing for everyone in the long run, if they're booking things around Wrestlemania 30, then these scenarios would lead to the best outcomes for next years big show. Cena screws Rock out of the title and Punk shakes Taker’s hand after losing to him at mania. Cena would then begin his heel run as Punk slowly turns into the top face. Cena can have few filler feuds with the likes of Orton and Ryback before the annual summer Cena/Punk program. Cena will admit that he personally kept Punk from becoming the top guy two years ago and politicked his way into main eventing ppvs even when Punk was champion. Cena retains at money in the bank and Summerslam against Punk.


Cena has a few more filler feuds over the title up until November where The Undertaker returns for his last survivor series which is main evented by a Team Cena/Team Taker match. Cena is kayfabe injured by Taker after being choke slammed of the stage and therefore has to forfeit the title. HHH announces a 30 man battle royal a few weeks later on Raw, Punk is last man in the ring after outlasting what we assumed was 29 men. HHH makes his way down the ramp to present him with the title, just as he’s about to hand Punk the belt, HHH instead nails him in the head with it, throws him over the top rope and says that Punk only outlasted 28 other men and that he was the final participant. HHH who is now the "official" chairman of the board chooses his wwe title opponents at TLC and The Royal Rumble both against complete jobbers garnering him nuclear heat. Punk wins the rumble leading to HHH/Punk for the WWE Championship, Brock/Rock and Cena/Taker(His last match) at Wrestlemania XXX.
 
#1,604 ·
Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

The Rock said John Cena was just like Lance Armstrong. Armstrong ended up betraying his fans and cheating to win in the end.
Brilliant. I never thought of this but holy shit if WWE has actually put this much thought into foreshadowing a Cena heel turn I will jump for joy. I will say that Cena seems almost desperate. With Rock taunting him the way he did, maybe if he keeps that up Cena will come to realize that he'll have to resort to cheating to win and the heel turn will happen. I have to stop before I get carried away now, ha.
 
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Re: Am I the only one who hates Cena but seriously hopes he wins at WM?

I couldn't be more indifferent to a WWE title feud. Cena has done everything twice over in the last 8 years, and he's in terrible form. The Rock doesn't have the time to commit to a full-time schedule, and he's in terrible form.

They don't have chemistry together, and either way, the result will be something we've seen a million times before. John Cena has nothing left to bring to the table as WWE Champion, and neither does The Rock.

It's the epitome of recycling, and it's a holding pattern for the WWE that will never allow them to grow. No matter how many eyeballs are watching, or how much revenue it brings in.
 
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Re: Am I the only one who hates Cena but seriously hopes he wins at WM?

I couldn't be more indifferent to a WWE title feud. Cena has done everything twice over in the last 8 years, and he's in terrible form. The Rock doesn't have the time to commit to a full-time schedule, and he's in terrible form.

They don't have chemistry together, and either way, the result will be something we've seen a million times before. John Cena has nothing left to bring to the table as WWE Champion, and neither does The Rock.

It's the epitome of recycling, and it's a holding pattern for the WWE that will never allow them to grow. No matter how many eyeballs are watching, or how much revenue it brings in.
I feel the same way you do buddy.

I feel like I've been completely ripped-off with Dwayne Johnson's big return and yes I'm calling him Dwayne. The Rock I knew and loved died nearly a decade ago. The person or the character we're seeing today is nothing more then a transparent egomaniac and nothing more. Everything about Dwayne's return has left a bad taste in my mouth i.e. :

Burying the entire roster in his first promo back as well as his most recent one with Cena.
The Infamous Rock Birthday celebration
Beating the face of the company at WM. No matter how I feel abut Cena personally it's always been the time honoured tradition in pro wrestling for the semi-retired legend to go out on his back and that didn't happen. This year if it happens no one's going to care because the damage is already done.
Giving him the WWE title.

I loved The Rock back in the day like no one else he was 2nd only to Austin as one of my favourite wrestlers during the attitude era but enough is enough already.
 
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

I don't buy into that "I'm a huge Rock fan but he needs to show up more" bullshit.

If you really were a "huge Rock fan" like you claim you would understand what Rock's schedule is like & that it was WWE's idea to put the title on Rock.

This whole thing is about putting Cena over in the best way possible (i don't like it any more than you do) & what better way to do that than have Rock win the title & give it the biggest exposure that title has seen in years & drop it to Cena at WrestleMania.
 
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Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

Just a fantastic presentation of a story with believable intensity of the highest level. This is the material promoters are waiting to put in commercials and video packages to sell the event. Awesome. 3 weeks ago I thought that it peaked, then this changed it. Could have been the go-home segment but they have two more, on RAW and SD next week.
 
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Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

Posted this in the other thread and it sums up everything I want to say so here it is again...

Fuck. Rock and Cena go and do THAT. Wow. That was absolutely fantastic from both of them. Embarrassing that people can't give props to both guys because they both brought it and both made that segment what it was. Money promo all the way. Rock and Cena may not have interacted all that much this year but the 2 promos they have delivered fucking KILL everything they have ever done in the past. Riveting TV and Jesus fuck, Cena heeling it up made me like a child. So damn smart of WWE to tease us with this, even if it isn't going to happen, watching Cena teeter on the edge is just brilliant. This wasn't good guy John Cena. This was an honest, slightly pompous and arrogant John Cena and I loved it. Rock was on fire and proved why he's one of the best to ever hold a mic and the addition of the legends was perfectly done. There's throwing bells and whistles at things for no reason but all the questions served a purpose and everything felt important. The passion, intensity and emotion from both Cena and Rock put the whole thing over the top and I can't believe I'm saying this but I most definitely fucking care about this match now. I care and I'm looking forward to it. Well done Rock, well done Cena and well done WWE for getting something right. I can't say enough about how awesome that was.
 
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Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

:lmao well look at that once again Vince proves that the majority of the fanbase are sheep and will buy into anything. After one "OK" segment between Rock/Cena last night it seems everyone is ready to fork over there $70 for this upcoming garbage of a WM in 2 weeks. It's going to be so hilarious tho after WM 29 is over with and in the books and there is no change in Cena's character and we are right back in 2010 with Super Cena running rampant over everyone on the roster and everyone will be back to bitching about his character.

So enjoy your predictable Mania folks. It's good to see Vince knows how to manipulate the fans so well. He truly is a genius.
 
#2,465 ·
Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

:lmao well look at that once again Vince proves that the majority of the fanbase are sheep and will buy into anything. After one "OK" segment between Rock/Cena last night it seems everyone is ready to fork over there $70 for this upcoming garbage of a WM in 2 weeks. It's going to be so hilarious tho after WM 29 is over with and in the books and there is no change in Cena's character and we are right back in 2010 with Super Cena running rampant over everyone on the roster and everyone will be back to bitching about his character.

So enjoy your predictable Mania folks. It's good to see Vince knows how to manipulate the fans so well. He truly is a genius.




For the record, I typed in the phrase "this feud sucks" on google and one of the first pictures was of Rock and Cena :lmao
 
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Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

Well, I didn't watch Raw, but I did just watch the final segment.

Let me say this first: Dusty was the best part of the segment. He had 30 seconds of mic time and just cut a Dusty Rhodes speech. Awesome stuff. Make him a manager, please. God, think of a promo war between him and Dutch. Incredible.

Now for the meat and potatoes. I wasn't...blown away as some of you were, but I admit it was a pretty decent promo between Rock and Cena. I think one of the things I find so unlikable about Cena is that everything he does just seems so juvenile. When he and Rock did the staredown and he did his 'you can't seem me' hand wave, he looked like a grade schooler trying to be cool, and it just came off as pretty lame. Kinda like Rock was thinking "what the fuck is this weirdo doing?"

The promo was, again, pretty decent. The delivery was fine (though I still dislike Rock no longer referring to himself in the 3rd person and continually repeating lines) for the most part. I had some issues with Cena's content in his part. Like him trying to blame the loss on himself. What does that accomplish? Its him trying to steal Rock's heat. "NO! You didn't beat me, I beat myself! Give me back the glory from that win, you don't deserve it." At least this time he actually sold the magnitude of the loss last year, which was a nice change. Still, come on. Is that the only way he knows how to work a feud? To diminish someone else's accomplishment? There are vastly superior ways, and this way comes off as him being rather unprofessional. The other guy beat you after you made a catastrophic, stupid mistake. Take it on the chin, learn from it. But no, can't have heat for a Rock win, only Cena can beat Cena. Wasn't a fan of that part.

Cena's ring attire made him look like a giant fucking billboard, but that's nothing new. I guess the yellow made it stand out more?

This next part is just a personal view. I dunno what it is, but I find it extremely hard to find Cena believable. Like when Rock provoked him and Cena said "ITS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BEAT ME!", something about it made me look at him like it was a two year old having a hissy fit. Now I get that they're trying to sell how this loss has affected Cena and that he's very bitter about it, and that's cool, but there's some element to all this that makes me just transpose an infant whining about their juice box over this and you'd get something similar.

But aside from that, it seemed alright. I don't really care about the match anymore, though. One promo won't sell me on a feud. You need more than that, and the story of Cena's redemption is still crap. It was far from an all time classic promo. I mean, it speaks volumes about how far promo standards have sunk if this is believed to be amazing. For this era it stands out mor, but overall...a bit above average, I'd say.
 
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Re: John Cena and The Rock have sold me on watching their match after that amazing pr

Well, I didn't watch Raw, but I did just watch the final segment.

Let me say this first: Dusty was the best part of the segment. He had 30 seconds of mic time and just cut a Dusty Rhodes speech. Awesome stuff. Make him a manager, please. God, think of a promo war between him and Dutch. Incredible.

Now for the meat and potatoes. I wasn't...blown away as some of you were, but I admit it was a pretty decent promo between Rock and Cena. I think one of the things I find so unlikable about Cena is that everything he does just seems so juvenile. When he and Rock did the staredown and he did his 'you can't seem me' hand wave, he looked like a grade schooler trying to be cool, and it just came off as pretty lame. Kinda like Rock was thinking "what the fuck is this weirdo doing?"

The promo was, again, pretty decent. The delivery was fine (though I still dislike Rock no longer referring to himself in the 3rd person and continually repeating lines) for the most part. I had some issues with Cena's content in his part. Like him trying to blame the loss on himself. What does that accomplish? Its him trying to steal Rock's heat. "NO! You didn't beat me, I beat myself! Give me back the glory from that win, you don't deserve it." At least this time he actually sold the magnitude of the loss last year, which was a nice change. Still, come on. Is that the only way he knows how to work a feud? To diminish someone else's accomplishment? There are vastly superior ways, and this way comes off as him being rather unprofessional. The other guy beat you after you made a catastrophic, stupid mistake. Take it on the chin, learn from it. But no, can't have heat for a Rock win, only Cena can beat Cena. Wasn't a fan of that part.

Cena's ring attire made him look like a giant fucking billboard, but that's nothing new. I guess the yellow made it stand out more?

This next part is just a personal view. I dunno what it is, but I find it extremely hard to find Cena believable. Like when Rock provoked him and Cena said "ITS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BEAT ME!", something about it made me look at him like it was a two year old having a hissy fit. Now I get that they're trying to sell how this loss has affected Cena and that he's very bitter about it, and that's cool, but there's some element to all this that makes me just transpose an infant whining about their juice box over this and you'd get something similar.

But aside from that, it seemed alright. I don't really care about the match anymore, though. One promo won't sell me on a feud. You need more than that, and the story of Cena's redemption is still crap. It was far from an all time classic promo. I mean, it speaks volumes about how far promo standards have sunk if this is believed to be amazing. For this era it stands out mor, but overall...a bit above average, I'd say.
I think you're just nitpicking again.

Cena doing the "U C Me" thing was just taunting The ROCK. Something that many wrestlers have done, whether it's HHH doing the crotch chop, Taker doing the throat slash or ROCK doing the "just bring it" thing. But I get the feeling that because it's Cena, you have a problem with it.

And him saying he beat himself is just part of selling the loss and how delusional he's becoming. Did you have the same issue with Punk saying that he didn't lose the WWE Championship after the Royal Rumble? Now I know Cena is a face, but he was pretty much the heel last night in that promo.
 
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

GI Joe, biggest worldwide opening of 2013 with a huge $132 million. Nice.

Rock:
America's CinemaScores for #GIJoeRetaliation: Grade A. Basically means fans are leaving the theater w/ a big ass smile. #AllThatMatters
WOW. THANK YOU!! GI JOE: One of the biggest Easter box office openings EVER! ($52 million). HAVE FUN!! #BIGLoveToAllOfYou
Just in.. GI JOE: Biggest worldwide box office opening weekend of 2013! #THANKU #KickinAssWorldwide #PizzaAndTequilaTime
HHH:
Congrats to @TheRock GI Joe #1 #bootstoboxofficeasses now lets set another record in 7days #Wrestlemania29
Rock:
@TripleH Thanks Trip! Right there with ya.. #Wrestlemania29 #RecordSetting #Boots2Asses
From all the indicators so far and the NY market, WM29 is going to be the biggest money show in the history of the industry, so this record breaking run is not stopping there.
 
#2,857 ·
Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

GI Joe, biggest worldwide opening of 2013 with a huge $132 million. Nice.

Rock:




HHH:
Rock:


From all the indicators so far and the NY market, WM29 is going to be the biggest money show in the history of the industry, so this record breaking run is not stopping there.
Freaking amazing, yes. The GOAT does it again.
 
#2,858 ·
Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

Biggest worldwide opening of 2013 with a huge $132 million,once again proves how big of a Hollywood star Rock has become.And I sincerely believe that it's only the beginning of his Hollywood stardom.


Just can't believe how much risk he is taking while competing in WWE,one botched move can literally destroy his prosperous movie career,but as he says 'wrestling is in his blood',guy loves it so much.


As a Rock fan though,as successful his movies are,and as toned down he may sound these days,but there is nothing like watching Rock standing in the middle of the ring with the crowd chanting ROCKY ROCKY and there is nothing like to see him compete once again inside the 20 X 20.


In this age and time,when you watch such a big Hollywood star and a legend like the Rock dominate and compete in WWE it kinda feels really surreal.Never thought he will ever come back and once again reach the top of the food chain.


With WM29 now just 6 days away,what more can I say than.'Team Bring It':


GET READY...
 
#2,954 ·
Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

Okay why do people keep saying that The Rock and Cena have 3 years of history together? The Rock made his return in Febraury 2011 so its been 2 years that him and Cena have been feuding not 3. Anyways I can't wait for this fucking feud to be over with. It's such a waste of Rock's return. Trying to elevate a guy that 75% of fans can careless about. Not to mention Cena has already been the top face for the past 8 years boring us to tears. Still I guess its not going to stop WWE for contining to shove down our throats that cena is so called one of the "GOATS".

For all of you that order WM 29 this Sunday I hope you enjoy wasting your hard earned money on this crap. There will be no heel turn for Cena or any of the shit. Post Mania I bet a lot of you guys will wish you never supported this pointless rematch. Get ready for a shitty rest of the year as Cena will run rampant over the whole roster with no change in sight.
 
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Re: Official John Cena WWE Championship Match Discussion

Jesus, how many times are they going to milk this, "the champ is here" shit? Does he really need another title reign? It's not benefiting the business in any way, other than the ratings might go up a little bit for a week or 2. They should be keeping Cena well away from the title because he's going to draw anyway. I just don't get it.

If they are going with Rock/Cena 2 (which is stupid), then I believe they've made a big error in having the wrong guy chasing the title. The Rock has rescued the last 2 manias because 2 landmarks in his career, drew people in. WM 27 was all about his return to WWE, and WM 28 was all about him wrestling again. The draw for WM 29 should have been him finally winning the belt again after 10 years. They stupidly gave that away at the Rumble though and I reckon there going to pay for that when the buyrate for WM 29 comes in.
 
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Re: I'll Be Honest I Think Vince Is Gonna Let The Rock Go Over Cena Again At WM29.

Vince has been throwing around the "greatest ever" tagline to whoever can still make him money.

- Told Hogan in 2002 that he was going to make him the "Babe Ruth of Wrestling" , gave him the WWE Championship and put him on the Wrestlemania XIX poster

- Hogan fucked off in 2007, thus beginning the marketing for Stone Cold as the GOAT with merchandising, DVDs that claimed he was the most popular superstar ever.

- Steve can't wrestle thus meaning he can't really draw crowds or generate as much profit, so when HBK retired they put out a top 50 list with HBK number one.

- The Rock comes back , Vince realizes how much money he can make, markets Rock as the greatest ever.

If you're one of the true BIG NAMES in the business, Vince is going to use the "greatest ever" tag to generate more and more profit... So when Rock/Taker/GAME/BROCK are all gone there's going to be one "Living Legend/Greatest Ever" still standing and that's John Cena.
 
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Re: I'll Be Honest I Think Vince Is Gonna Let The Rock Go Over Cena Again At WM29.

Vince has been throwing around the "greatest ever" tagline to whoever can still make him money.

- Told Hogan in 2002 that he was going to make him the "Babe Ruth of Wrestling" , gave him the WWE Championship and put him on the Wrestlemania XIX poster

- Hogan fucked off in 2007, thus beginning the marketing for Stone Cold as the GOAT with merchandising, DVDs that claimed he was the most popular superstar ever.

- Steve can't wrestle thus meaning he can't really draw crowds or generate as much profit, so when HBK retired they put out a top 50 list with HBK number one.

- The Rock comes back , Vince realizes how much money he can make, markets Rock as the greatest ever.

If you're one of the true BIG NAMES in the business, Vince is going to use the "greatest ever" tag to generate more and more profit... So when Rock/Taker/GAME/BROCK are all gone there's going to be one "Living Legend/Greatest Ever" still standing and that's John Cena.
No one will buy that if he spends the rest of his career rising above hate. I can already see him getting booed at his own HOF induction or anytime he would show up on Raw.
 
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Twice In A Lifetime

John Cena will overcome the odds again to defeat The Rock for his 13th WWE Championship. He will redeem himself in front of the WWE Universe and finally overcome the worst year in his career. And, sadly, the announcers will try to shove it down your throat that Cena is The Rock's equal now.

And I could not care less. Knowing the outcome this time, where I didn't know it last time, pretty much ruins any possible excitement for this match for me. I'm far more interested to see where even Jack Swagger is going than what is going to be the main event of main events.
 
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