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post #641 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 11:58 PM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

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Who are these people you speak of?

Yes, it's not the 80's anymore. But it's not the 90's anymore either. Bad-asses don't draw anymore. If you want an example, look at TNA. Hogan and Austin were massively popular because wrestling was massively popular arpund the times they were top face. Cena's the top face when wrestling isn't as popular as it was. And that's because many different things, including the Benoit tragedy.

And I don't think he get's 75% of negative reaction in every arena. In some places, yeah. But most of the time it's either mix or even mostly cheers.

And the 75% of people that are booing him payed for their ticket to be there, so it's no loss to the WWE.

And please, enlighten me as too why Cena isn't deserving as the top face. Massively over? Check. Sell merchandise like crazy? Check. Is good in the ring? Check. Is great with media and PR? Check. Is good ob the mic? Check.

So why doesn't Cena deserve to be the top face?
You say badass babyfaces don't draw I beg to differ on that. Yes wrestling was hot in the 90's and that's why a guy like Austin really fit with the times but Austin had much more to offer than just the typical goody 2 shoes babyface the WWE had in the 80's. Austin had the ability to connect with the fans. Which should be the ultimate goal of any babyface . The fans are suppose to be behind the babyface. Yes no wrestler has ever been universally loved but when you have your top face of the company getting booed by the majority of the fans in every arena there is a huge problem there.

I don't doubt Cena is a good employee for WWE. It's well documented Cena's charity work and the good PR he does for WWE and I do respect him for that. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be the face of the company. He doesn't connect with the majority of the fans and yes I realize his fanbase is kids but the thing is kids and families make up a small portion of WWE's fanbase. The most important demographic in wrestling will always be the 18-40 male demographic.

Cena was force fed on us the fans didn't ask for him to be the top face of the company. And for the past 8 years a lot of us fans have made it clear we are sick of the guy. Cena may do well selling merchandise to kids but it is a fact since he has been on top of the WWE the last 8 years ratings have dropped. By the time he retires no one is ever going to consider him one of the all time greats. WWE has had many opportunities to freshen up his character but they keep choosing to keep him as this boring stale babyface.


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post #642 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-25-2013, 12:14 AM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

Rock needs to job. We don't need Super Rock to replace Super Cena, that's enough of that shit. Its obvious that Punk is probably going to be inserted into this match to take a pinfall and give the belt back to Cena. This is a transitional run for Rocky nothing major. He may try to get a one on one rematch for Extreme Rules where Cena will go over again. People will bitch and moan but in the end its probably the right thing to do.
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post #643 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-25-2013, 12:19 AM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

Pretty obvious to me Cena is behind Ryback's losses and eventual heel turn. Nice excuse to use to keep Cena the top star. My theory and I'm sticking to it.

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post #644 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-25-2013, 03:04 PM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

No to the triple threat and no to a Ryback heel turn.

Although knowing the WWE I expect them to do both.

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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

At this point I'm just hoping against hope that the crowd in NJ shits all over this match, which they could if they wanted to.

I get that The Rock being champion for WM will draw the casuals and ex-fans in, I get that it's a bigger money match than Punk/Rock or Punk/Cena, I even sort of get that Cena should probably actually get a win this WM since he's jobbed out the last 2 years. What I don't get is why we're 6 weeks away on the RTWM, and the champion of the company isn't even on the fucking show. What exactly is Rock doing that is more important than the build towards the biggest show of the year?

Don't get me wrong, on the night I'll still be rooting for The Rock, because fuck Cena. But seriously, this match is absolute balls.


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post #646 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-25-2013, 03:34 PM
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Only with The Rock or with The Miz i can root for Cena

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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

I don't think the reaction he gets will even be that bad probably his usual mixed responses. Its not like we haven't seen wrestlemanias where Cena has won in-front of thousands of smarks.

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post #648 of 3421 (permalink) Old 02-25-2013, 08:10 PM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena II Discussion Thread

New York will boo him out of the building, So it will be bad but no different to WrestleMania's 22 and 28 were he received X-Pac Heat.

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The match is official.
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He said the exact same thing last time word for word as for Rock going over him at Mania again i was 100% sure Cena was winning until the ER announcement i could be wrong but i take that bet i hope to get my good rep daily
I will rep daily only if happens.




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