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post #1851 of 3421 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 01:54 PM
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What people fail to realize is that WWE is a business. And when your a business your main focus is too make as much money as possible. Just because there's a tagline, doesn't mean they can't do it again. It made them a shitload of money last year, and they had the second highest buyrate for WrestleMania in history for WrestleMania 28. It's a sure way to make ALOT of money in a short period of time. The WWE will do whatever makes them the most money, and Rock/Cena is the only match right now (besides Rock/Brock or Cena/Taker which I feel those matches will be at WrestleMania 30) that makes them a lot of money.

And just because it was billed "once in a lifetime" doesn't mean they can't do it again. I feel that people aren't mad that the WWE is "lying to them," but that Cena's involved. If it was Punk/Rock 3 at WrestleMania, I highly doubt we would hear this much complaining. I think people just don't want to see Cena win, even though there's no reason why he shouldn't win.

Plus, they've already sold out WrestleMania 29, and have a $11 million dollar gate.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, doesn't mean there's not millions of people who do, and who will order the PPV or go to the show. So yeah, you can go on bitching and moaning, but as long as it makes WWE money, their going to do it.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

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What people fail to realize is that WWE is a business. And when your a business your main focus is too make as much money as possible. Just because there's a tagline, doesn't mean they can't do it again. It made them a shitload of money last year, and they had the second highest buyrate for WrestleMania in history for WrestleMania 28. It's a sure way to make ALOT of money in a short period of time. The WWE will do whatever makes them the most money, and Rock/Cena is the only match right now (besides Rock/Brock or Cena/Taker which I feel those matches will be at WrestleMania 30) that makes them a lot of money.

And just because it was billed "once in a lifetime" doesn't mean they can't do it again. I feel that people aren't mad that the WWE is "lying to them," but that Cena's involved. If it was Punk/Rock 3 at WrestleMania, I highly doubt we would hear this much complaining. I think people just don't want to see Cena win, even though there's no reason why he shouldn't win.

Plus, they've already sold out WrestleMania 29, and have a $11 million dollar gate.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, doesn't mean there's not millions of people who do, and who will order the PPV or go to the show. So yeah, you can go on bitching and moaning, but as long as it makes WWE money, their going to do it.

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What people fail to realize is that WWE is a business. And when your a business your main focus is too make as much money as possible. Just because there's a tagline, doesn't mean they can't do it again. It made them a shitload of money last year, and they had the second highest buyrate for WrestleMania in history for WrestleMania 28. It's a sure way to make ALOT of money in a short period of time. The WWE will do whatever makes them the most money, and Rock/Cena is the only match right now (besides Rock/Brock or Cena/Taker which I feel those matches will be at WrestleMania 30) that makes them a lot of money.

And just because it was billed "once in a lifetime" doesn't mean they can't do it again. I feel that people aren't mad that the WWE is "lying to them," but that Cena's involved. If it was Punk/Rock 3 at WrestleMania, I highly doubt we would hear this much complaining. I think people just don't want to see Cena win, even though there's no reason why he shouldn't win.

Plus, they've already sold out WrestleMania 29, and have a $11 million dollar gate.

Just because YOU don't want to see it, doesn't mean there's not millions of people who do, and who will order the PPV or go to the show. So yeah, you can go on bitching and moaning, but as long as it makes WWE money, their going to do it.
Well look what we got here another fan that likes to focus on the "Business" side of things. Do you secretly work for WWE or something? Here is the thing no one put a gun to Vince's head to promote the match last year as "Once In A Lifetime" If they so desperately were planning on doing a rematch a year later they should of never promoted the match last year so heavily as "Once In A Lifetime" to make you feel like you would never see it again.

Fans have every right to feel cheated and sure a lot of fans that went to Miami last year as well as ordered the PPV feel cheated by WWE. This is why I say Vince will fail on this. I am sure when the buyrates came in for WM 28 and he saw how strong they were he felt that booking the match again this year that he could possibly match or top the buyrates from last year but its not going to happen. No Rock fan is going to pay to see Cena get a predictable win over Rock. And please don't fool yourself the only reason why WWE got such strong buyrates for WM 27 and WM 28 was because of Rock.

Also as far as you mentioning WM being sold out well no shit its fucking WM. No matter how bad a show is its always better live. A lot of fans thought WM 28 was a shit show but I enjoyed it live. WM will always sell out because its WM. That doesn't mean the PPV buyrates will be strong. Also another thing you got to factor in is a lot of casual fans go to WM and they can give a fuck less about what is on the card.

As a fan I can careless of what is so called "GOOD FOR BUSINESS". There is plenty of other matches they could of booked for Mania this year that could of draw a lot more money than Rock/Cena II and Brock/HHH II. Just wait and see when the buyrates come in for Mania this year and I guarantee it will be less than WM 28's strong buyrates last year.

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Well look what we got here another fan that likes to focus on the "Business" side of things. Do you secretly work for WWE or something? Here is the thing no one put a gun to Vince's head to promote the match last year as "Once In A Lifetime" If they so desperately were planning on doing a rematch a year later they should of never promoted the match last year so heavily as "Once In A Lifetime" to make you feel like you would never see it again.

Fans have every right to feel cheated and sure a lot of fans that went to Miami last year as well as ordered the PPV feel cheated by WWE. This is why I say Vince will fail on this. I am sure when the buyrates came in for WM 28 and he saw how strong they were he felt that booking the match again this year that he could possibly match or top the buyrates from last year but its not going to happen. No Rock fan is going to pay to see Cena get a predictable win over Rock. And please don't fool yourself the only reason why WWE got such strong buyrates for WM 27 and WM 28 was because of Rock.

Also as far as you mentioning WM being sold out well no shit its fucking WM. No matter how bad a show is its always better live. A lot of fans thought WM 28 was a shit show but I enjoyed it live. WM will always sell out because its WM. That doesn't mean the PPV buyrates will be strong. Also another thing you got to factor in is a lot of casual fans go to WM and they can give a fuck less about what is on the card.

As a fan I can careless of what is so called "GOOD FOR BUSINESS". There is plenty of other matches they could of booked for Mania this year that could of draw a lot more money than Rock/Cena II and Brock/HHH II. Just wait and see when the buyrates come in for Mania this year and I guarantee it will be less than WM 28's strong buyrates last year.
What other matches could be booked that would draw more money that Rock/Cena 2? And I feel their saving Rock/Brock for next year. Same with Cena/Taker. It makes sense to have two star-studded matches at the 30th Anniversary of WrestleMania, than on the one before it. Makes the show much bigger.

So, other than Brock/Rock or Cena/Taker, what other match is there that would draw more than Rock/Cena 2 for this year's Wrestlemania?

And no, I don't work for WWE. But I understand that it's a business and in a business your main goal is too make money.

Why would any fan feel cheated? Once the ref counted the three in the Rock/Cena match, I knew there was going to be a rematch. In fact, Cena should have won the match the first time around. But that's another story for another time. The fact is though, there s no way WWE were just going to have Rock come back and beat Cena without Cena (their top face) beating Rock in a rematch.

It makes sense for Cena's career, and for the future storyline with The Undertaker at WM 30. He's beaten everyone there is too beat. Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Edge, Kurt Angle, JBL, Randy Orton, and CM Punk. Every who's stood in his way, he's beaten. Now, it's time to do something he hasn't done yet, and that's challenge The Streak. It writes itself.

Just because they billed it "Once In A Lifetime" doesn't mean their not allowed to do it again.



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Grow up. Seriously.
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I'm ok with the rematch. Had to accept it. But they shouldn't have promoted the first one as "Once in a Lifetime". Especially if there were chances of having a rematch. They just showed their product lacks direction and credibility.
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What other matches could be booked that would draw more money that Rock/Cena 2? And I feel their saving Rock/Brock for next year. Same with Cena/Taker. It makes sense to have two star-studded matches at the 30th Anniversary of WrestleMania, than on the one before it. Makes the show much bigger.

So, other than Brock/Rock or Cena/Taker, what other match is there that would draw more than Rock/Cena 2 for this year's Wrestlemania?

And no, I don't work for WWE. But I understand that it's a business and in a business your main goal is too make money.

Why would any fan feel cheated? Once the ref counted the three in the Rock/Cena match, I knew there was going to be a rematch. In fact, Cena should have won the match the first time around. But that's another story for another time. The fact is though, there s no way WWE were just going to have Rock come back and beat Cena without Cena (their top face) beating Rock in a rematch.

It makes sense for Cena's career, and for the future storyline with The Undertaker at WM 30. He's beaten everyone there is too beat. Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Edge, Kurt Angle, JBL, Randy Orton, and CM Punk. Every who's stood in his way, he's beaten. Now, it's time to do something he hasn't done yet, and that's challenge The Streak. It writes itself.

Just because they billed it "Once In A Lifetime" doesn't mean their not allowed to do it again.
When you bill a match as "Once In A Lifetime" it means its suppose to only happen ONCE. Like I said before the rematch wouldn't be a big of a problem if they didn't heavily promote the match last year like it was only happening once and that's it. All these does is cheapen WM 28.

Now as far as Rock beating Cena clean what's the big deal there? Cena has beaten plenty of legends in his career on top of being booked Superman like. So what he has one big loss on his resume? Rock lost twice to Stone Cold at WM. Did that hurt his legacy? No not one bit. Cena does not need to beat Rock to cement his kayfabe legacy.

Now as far as Taker/Cena goes he doesn't need to beat Rock to be a threat to the streak. His Superman like booking makes him more of a threat than anything else. For me I don't care to see Taker/Cena but I get the appeal of it.

At the end of the day I get WWE is business but that doesn't mean they should be given a free pass when they make lazy booking decisions. There is no reason why they couldn't of booked better matches for WM this year. Also they can't rely on Cena forever it's time they start creating new stars before it's to late. What if Cena were to tragically die tomorrow? Or get seriously injured? Who have they built up properly to take his place as face of the company? NO ONE!!!. It's time they stop focusing on Cena and focus on other guys on the roster and start creating some new top stars.

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Well I am sorry if I am not like everyone else getting all excited for this rematch. Like I said in my earlier post I went to WM 28 last year to see this match I have no desire to see it again especially with a predictable Cena win. As far calling people sheep you have to be honest here a lot of fans these days have no backbone and just accept whatever is thrown on the TV screens every week. The current WWE product is shit everyone knows it but yet people still support it and pour money into it hence why I say some fans are sheep. I fail to see how that makes me a gimmick poster.
That's all fine and dandy, but not everyone quite knew this re match was gonna for sure take place. I didn't go to MANIA last year like you did, does that mean I'm not allowed to go to it this year because of a re match i didn't know was fully gonna happen when I bought the ticket? I don't mind seeing the Rock in action at MANIA whoever he is facing. It's not like the same people who went last year are going this year to see the same ME again.

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That's all fine and dandy, but not everyone quite knew this re match was gonna for sure take place. I didn't go to MANIA last year like you did, does that mean I'm not allowed to go to it this year because of a re match i didn't know was fully gonna happen when I bought the ticket? I don't mind seeing the Rock in action at MANIA whoever he is facing. It's not like the same people who went last year are going this year to see the same ME again.

I have never been to a WWE event in my life, nor have I put too much money into the WWE product, ni**a I just want to see Rock for the first time, live. lol

No I didn't mean it that way I hope you didn't get that from my post. Live shows are always awesome no matter how bad a card might be. I take it your going to WM 29? I hope you have a blast. I am very fortunate to have experienced a WM live. It was my dream as a kid. It was even better to see one of my all time favorites Rock live and it was super awesome seeing him beat Cena clean

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