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Old 03-14-2013, 11:08 PM   #1811 (permalink)
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Like I said before, Vince may be senile but even I wouldn't think he would be foolish enough to pass up on big money matches like Taker/Cena and Rock/Brock at WrestleMania XXX just to have another Rock/Cena match. With The Rock agreeing to work the Extreme Rules PPV, it will finally put an end to the Rock/Cena feud with Rock leaving to shoot the Hercules movie and will return to feud with Brock Lesnar which is why they have been kept apart from each other.
Alright well see what it happens trust me I do hope I'm wrong but I have this feeling Vince is dumb enough to do this match again next year especially if this WM gets strong buy-rates. Vince doesn't care about putting on great matches anymore its all about the MONEY!!!
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Well there is rumors right now that they wanna do Brock/Rock at Summerslam this year so if that happens than I am sure we will be getting Rock/Cena III at WM 30. People really do give this company to much credit. There is no reason to have this rematch this year but since it is happening and if Cena wins they will be stupid enough to wanna break the tie next year.
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Like I said before, Vince may be senile but even I wouldn't think he would be foolish enough to pass up on big money matches like Taker/Cena and Rock/Brock at WrestleMania XXX just to have another Rock/Cena match.
Vince is a moron. The fact that he let Cena beat Brock proves it, and he further cemented it by not booking Rocky/Brock this Mania which wouldve broke last years record.

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Nope Vince only cares about his political agenda, even over money. Pushing Punk to the heavens when he was red hot wouldve been the logical think to do but instead they killed his momentum cuz it doesnt fit there plans to have a guy who looks like that represent the company no matter if hes far more popular than Cena. This Mania also proves this point, he would rather have his goldenboy get a pointless win then book Rocky/Brock cuz he doesnt want to part timers setting records without Cena there to steal some of the credit.
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Vince is a moron. The fact that he let Cena beat Brock proves it, and he further cemented it by not booking Rocky/Brock this Mania which wouldve broke last years record.



Nope Vince only cares about his political agenda, even over money. Pushing Punk to the heavens when he was red hot wouldve been the logical think to do but instead they killed his momentum cuz it doesnt fit there plans to have a guy who looks like that represent the company no matter if hes far more popular than Cena. This Mania also proves this point, he would rather have his goldenboy get a pointless win then book Rocky/Brock cuz he doesnt want to part timers setting records without Cena there to steal some of the credit.
This. You are so right I never even thought about the political agenda before but it all makes sense to me now. I remember last year after WM 28 and after Lesnar returned that there were rumors that they wanted to do Rock/Brock at WM 29. I think what happened is after the WM 28 buyrates came in and Vince saw how strong they were he thought he could strike that same magic twice with booking the match again this year.

People just don't seem to understand that Vince no longer cares about what the hardcore fans want. There is no reason why Cena/Taker and Rock/Brock could not happen this year. All Vince cares about is trying to continue his failed attempts of trying to make Cena considered one of the "GOATS".

So I fear that if WM 29 gets strong buyrates will be seeing Rock/Cena III in the main event of WM 30.
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This. You are so right I never even thought about the political agenda before but it all makes sense to me now. I remember last year after WM 28 and after Lesnar returned that there were rumors that they wanted to do Rock/Brock at WM 29. I think what happened is after the WM 28 buyrates came in and Vince saw how strong they were he thought he could strike that same magic twice with booking the match again this year.
I dont see how anyone thinks that match will draw nearly as much? Majority of Rocky fans dont want to see him job to Cena so they wont pay to see it, only people who will are Cena fans and die hard WWE fans while everyone else streams it. It will do over a million buys but not close to last years.

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People just don't seem to understand that Vince no longer cares about what the hardcore fans want. There is no reason why Cena/Taker and Rock/Brock could not happen this year. All Vince cares about is trying to continue his failed attempts of trying to make Cena considered one of the "GOATS".
Think about this, do you think Vince wouldve let Hogan and Goldberg headline a Mania when both were part timers in 2002 or 2003? No way, he wouldve wanted his own talent to be in that spot so he can brag about it. Deep down im sure Vince knew if Brock wouldve squashed Cena like he shouldve then faced an unbeaten Rocky at this years Mania that buyrate wouldve crushed last years proving his entire roster is an afterthought and not on par with legends. The entire point of Rocky/Cena is for WWE to force us to think Cena is on Rocky level, that by itself proves how clueless WWE is.

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So I fear that if WM 29 gets strong buyrates will be seeing Rock/Cena III in the main event of WM 30.
I think its going to happen. If you remember a year ago at the press conference for Mania 29 it was Rocky and Cena who closed the show with a staredown basically foreshadowing there future rematch. Well guess what, they did the exact same thing this year for next years Mania press conference, god save us all.
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+1 to the above two posters.


WWE is trying to prove that Cena is on the Rock's level.And even though we've seen over the last two years,that even a toned down Rock is too much for Cena,yet WWE wants us to think otherwise.


And yes I don't think Rock's fans would pay to see him lose to f*** John Cena of all people and crushing their ideal at the grandest stage.


PS: In India Wrestle-Mania is on free TV and not on PPV,yet I am boycotting this year's main event,only because of WWE's betrayal.When you promote a match as 'Once in a Lifetime',better keep your word,rather than making mockery of us fans.


Anyway,Rock is such a gentleman,he never had any problems in the past with losing and putting over talent and never will have.It is because of this humility that I respect The Rock so much.Despite being the biggest superstar of all time,and tasting success in and outside the pro-wrestling industry unlike anyone,how can someone remain so benign and down to earth really beats me?!

Cena bad-mouthed Rock since 2008(real not kayfabe),and yet he is putting this guy over,strange!
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Yeah, I don't see WWE letting Rock beat Cena again... This match is way too predictable and the fact that they are doing it two Manias in a row is simply pathetic.
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^ Dead right.Only profitable outcome of this feud can be only when Cena turns heel,and becomes another Paul HEYMAN guy,and the leader of the Shield.Then this faction should dominate WWE for years to come,making the show much more enjoyable.


But the way WWE protracts Cena,I don't know whether they will alow him to turn heel or not.Perhaps Vince is too afraid of what happened at WM 17,that heel turn literally killed one of the most popular characters of all time,so perhaps he doesn't want to repeat the past mistake(in his mind).


Having said that I think Cena will prove to be a fantastic heel,this guy can draw heat like anyone.


But lets keep our fingers crossed whether Cena turns heel or not.If he beats Rock clean and remains face,then the show will go back circa 2010 days aka boring.
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^ Dead right.Only profitable outcome of this feud can be only when Cena turns heel,and becomes another Paul HEYMAN guy,and the leader of the Shield.Then this faction should dominate WWE for years to come,making the show much more enjoyable.


But the way WWE protracts Cena,I don't know whether they will alow him to turn heel or not.Perhaps Vince is too afraid of what happened at WM 17,that heel turn literally killed one of the most popular characters of all time,so perhaps he doesn't want to repeat the past mistake(in his mind).


Having said that I think Cena will prove to be a fantastic heel,this guy can draw heat like anyone.


But lets keep our fingers crossed whether Cena turns heel or not.If he beats Rock clean and remains face,then the show will go back circa 2010 days aka boring.
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What i want you guys to really think about is this: At Mania 17 everyone knew Rocky had to leave right after to shoot a movie so he had to drop the belt. It was as predictable as it gets yet majorty still hail it as the greatest main event at Mania but why? Im in not way in favor of Rocky/Cena II but its also a predicable outcome. Its just interesting how one is loved so much while another is hated so much



You make a very valid point. Remember when Rocky first came in there was a lot of talk that he was going to have three matches with Cena. I for one was no surprised they did the rematch this year. I am starting to think WWE is stupid enough to have them again next Mania, it will be obvious if they make the terrible decision of wasting Rocky/Brock for Summerslam
Actually the talk was having 3 matches with 2 of them taking place at Mania. If you're going by Rock's interviews he's only said he'll be at WM 30. He could be HOF and have a supporting role for all we know.

Bottom line is this. You guys are out of your mind if you think he'll book Rock Cena 3 over Cena Taker at WM 30.

Cena's not turning either. Why would you waste Cena's heel turn on the Shield? They're not NWO Hall and Nash. There's no profit to be made there. Here's what you guys have to remember. Wrestlers make a large chunk based off of merchandise sales. Austin turned, his salary got smaller, and then he goes to JR and starts complaining until he's face again. Vince just isn't going to do with Cena. The landscape has to change before you turn Cena. The adult crowd is not going to get behind heel Cena and buy his gear like the little kiddies do.

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Rock-Brock is definitely not taking place at SummerSlam. That's a Wrestlemania caliber main event, no way it's going to happen at SummerSlam. I can see Lesnar-Cena II at SummerSlam or Lesnar-Punk, but not Lesnar-Rock. That one will be saved.

Rock-Cena III is going to happen at Extreme Rules and that's that. That should be the end of the program for good, I can't see them stretching it out to Wrestlemania 30. The same match, three straight years at Wrestlemania would be overkill and turn off a lot of viewers, plus you miss the opportunity for Cena-Taker.
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