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post #1561 of 3421 (permalink) Old 03-07-2013, 05:04 PM
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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

Cena shouldn't turn heel at Mania. I think they should have him on the brink of turning but I'd definitely keep that line grey.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

The thing is, if he does turn heel, you have the risk of it being a massive flop. Why? Because right now, he has a split crowd. On one side, there's the kids who look up to him as their hero, as the guy who triumphs over evil. If he turns heel, you loss that fanbase, and the merchandise sales will most likely go down because to the kids, Cena would have turned their back on them.

Than, there's the older fans who can't stand him. They don't like his character and find him stale and boring. Some of them are craving for him to turn heel, they want him to have a change in his character. So, if you turn him heel, the older fans will begin to like him. Thus rendering the whole thing pointless. The object of a heel turn should be to have the entire fanbase against you, but I can guarantee you that it won't be the case with a Cena heel turn. If the fans just flipped in terms of reactions, than it's a lost cause. It'll be like Austin heel turn where he was a heel, but was still getting big reactions. Cena would be the same.

It's not that I don't want him to turn heel. By all means, it would be interesting to see him work as a heel. But, you have to put other factors that are involved. His fans, his merchandise sales, the fact that the people who boo him still pay to the go to the shows. It's not like WWE's losing money with Cena as the top face, it's the completely opposite actually. Seriously, there's basically no reason to turn him heel, other than to cater to the IWC which WWE should never do. Sure, he could have a change in his character, but I think a heel turn would be way to much of a change in a short amount of time. It'll be interesting, but I think it could be a mistake in the long run.

Than, you have the fact that they really don't have anyone who can fill in as the top face after Cena turn heel. They tried to use The Rock in 2001 after Austin turned, but it never really worked out as they planned. Ryback's not quite there yet, and he's jobbed a lot the last few months. Sheamus isn't there yet either. Punk won't work IMO, Orton's not reliable and is on his last strike. There would have to be someone who they can't build up as the top face to take down the "evil" John Cena.

Who, in your opinion, would that be? Because as I see it right now there's no other guy who can be the top face of the company. And no, The Rock isn't an option.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

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The nWo got cheered.

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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

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he's turning guys, get ready

I knew Cena would come out of the clos...oh you meant heel. My bad.

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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

The Rock said John Cena was just like Lance Armstrong. Armstrong ended up betraying his fans and cheating to win in the end.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

I would expect a heel turn for Cena would split the crowd in the other direction, the marks cheering he's fnally a bad guy and the kiddies booing the hero..

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I don't see any benefit of The Rock winning.

Sure, I didn't agree with them having Rock beat Cena last year, but it made some sense if the fact that they didn't want to job Rock out in his first WrestleMania match in 8 years. Sure, I still stand by that I think Cena should have won that match, but Rock winning at least made sense.

What sense is there in having Rock win, again? You not only put Rock over as the biggest superstar ever who seemingly can't be beat. But, you continually job out Cena at WrestleMania. He would have lost 3 WrestleMania main events in a row. And if thy have him face and job to Taker next year, that's 4 straight and 5 loses overall. That's 4 more loses that Hogan and Austin had at WrestleMania during their time as top face. Combined.

John Cena should be booked as strong as possible, but having him constantly losing time an time again doesn't help matters and doesn't make sense. Rock winning does nothing for him, he's already beaten Cena and won the WWE Championship, what else does he have to do? He's been basically undefeated since returning, so he's do a loss eventually. Right? What are they going to do, have Rock win at WrestleMania, than vacant it the next night? Or have Cena beat him at Extreme Rules? So, they put Rock over Cena, twice. They put the part-time superstar from the Attitude Era over their current top face, twice? Where's the logic in that?

Cena has to win. I know I said that last year, but there was logic in Rock winning even thought I'll never agree with the decision. But, Cena SHOULD go over Rock this year, if they want to make sense. Cena hasn't been WE Champion for nearly two years. He had probably the worst year out of every top face in the history of WWE last year, jobbing 5 times. The longer you job out your top face, the more people won't be shocked when he's beaten.

And Cena winning will be the great way to build up the potential feud with The Undertaker at WrestleMania 30. He's beaten them all, Rock, Tripl H, Shawn Michaels, Jericho, Kane, Orton, Punk, Big Show, Batista, Angle. Everyone who has crossed his path, he has beaten. But there's one thing he hasn't done, and that's face The Undertaker at WrestleMania and challenge The Streak. It writes itself.

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The nWo got cheered.
Yes, they were cheered. Heels are generally liked by a majority of the older audience. If Cena turned heel and was cheered by the older audience, but the kids booed him, we would be back to square one. The object of a Cena heel turn shouldn't be to cater to the IWC, it should be to have him booed by a majority of the audience.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

Personally, he could be the best heel the sport has ever seen, but in my eyes he will always be that smiling guy who ruined the company for me.

Nothing they will ever do with his character will change my mind, its too late.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

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Yes, they were cheered. Heels are generally liked by a majority of the older audience. If Cena turned heel and was cheered by the older audience, but the kids booed him, we would be back to square one. The object of a Cena heel turn shouldn't be to cater to the IWC, it should be to have him booed by a majority of the audience.
The kids would cheer him, they're grown already, look at hogan(you even had 2 yr old nwo fans, look, at nitro crowds). and they love the rock(proof? every night cena fan or not he's cheered.

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The Rock said John Cena was just like Lance Armstrong. Armstrong ended up betraying his fans and cheating to win in the end.
Exactly.

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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

definitely wish we got a triple threat match out of this instead of the rematch. Punk deserves to be in this match
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