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post #1541 of 3421 (permalink) Old 03-07-2013, 11:46 AM
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

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This would only make sense if 2013 had been nothing but a tailspin for him as well. But he won the Rumble. He beat Punk clean. Infact, the only match he has lost in 2013, as far as I can remember, is a 6 man tag where he didn't eat the pin.
I would argue that gives Cena all the more momentum as a top villian if he were to turn at Wrestlemania. A top heel that can't be stopped is something WWE has failed to create in years...about a decade actually.

And Austin won the Rumble in '01...just an FYI...

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Plus, if they were going to turn him heel it'd at least be against someone who could maybe replace him. No point giving a super over superstar, who is part time at best, the sympathy of being turned on by John Cena.
I don't think the turn in this case is about a superstar being turned on, but rather the "Cenation" being turned in. One could argue that Austin turned on the people, but I would beg to differ as I think it was a completely different situation. Austin, while a hero, was never a fighter for, or defender of the people. His character was a lone wolf, anti- hero, that was always in it for himself. The fans were more or less just along for the ride, where as with a babyface like Rock, Hogan or Cena, the fans are what fuel them. The People/Hulkamaniacs/Cenation are just as important a part of those characters as the ideas they fought for. But Austin? He was different and his turn on Rock was truely done for his gain, not to prove anything to the fans...because for the Austin character, it never was about the fans to begin with.

I think the OP makes some good points, but I think too much is being put on "what Austin did". While there are similarities, the turn of John Cena (whenever it does happen) will be different from those of Austin and Hogan because the motives are so dradtically different. If Austin had faced HHH at Wrestlemania 17 and went to desperate measures to beat him, then a parrallel could be drawn between Cena and Rock - but that's not what happened. Austin faced Rock, who he had already beat at Wrestlemania for the title, two years prior so he wasn't trying to avenge anything. He wanted the WWF title back and was going to do whatever he had to to do so. Cena needs this win, not for the title, but to finish what he failed to finish the year before in the "biggest match of his career". Cena is not fighting for the fans going into Wrestlemania 29, or even the boys in the back like many would say he was doing last year, but rather he's fighting for himself. THAT is the biggest change I'm seeing in Cena right now, and think is the greatest possible indicator for a heel turn to ensure he gets the job done this year.

As many others on the thread have stated, I'll believe it when I see it. However, I do think the possibility for it is stronger than ever as I think WWE realizes two things. #1: There are/will be very few ways and opportunities in which Cena can be turned at this point...the stage has to be the biggest (only Mania will suffice) and the opponent has to be larger than he is (which at this point is only Rock). #2: Rock vs Cena II is far too predictable. Something needs to go down in this match to add the flare to it that it currently doesn't have. WWE needs something huge to carry the company post Mania once the likes of Rock/Taker/HHH go away, and a fresh John Cena as the top villian in the company (as WWE Champion mind you) could be just the answer they are looking for.


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post #1542 of 3421 (permalink) Old 03-07-2013, 11:58 AM
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

As much as I hope he turns, it's unlikely. Would be awesome if Orton and him both turn heel by the end of the show and form a powerful heel team together.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

People need to stop giving this company more credit than it deserves. That and living in hope of things happening is sweet...but it doesn't actually change anything. You want story lines like the one in the OP...stop supporting their current crap. It's a slim chance, but the only one we've got.

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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

You forget by comparing it with 2001 that in 2001 every smile, every word, every move made sense and had a meaning. Cena is not laughing in his promos because he has a plan or because it's a hint, he laughs because he is an unprofessional douche who as the "face" of the company is intimidated and scared by the presence of someone like the Rock like he is a little 5y old fan and not someone who needs to sell this feud. The reason why the promo is similar like the 2001 promo is because Cena steals and uses lines of other legends for years.
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Re: Proof and Evidence that John Cena Will turn Heel at Wrestlemania 29

FFS, HE'S NOT GOING TO TURN HEEL JESUS CHRIST THESE 13'ers. WE NEED A RULE LIKE GAMESPOT WHERE YOU CAN'T START A THREAD UNTIL LEVEL 10 - THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

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John cena is turning heel at wrestlemania 30. Mark it down.

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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

I can't be bothered with be the booker and we don't have a "ramblings of a fantasist" section so i'll just post this here.

I think Cena turning heel would be the best thing for everyone in the long run, if they're booking things around Wrestlemania 30, then these scenarios would lead to the best outcomes for next years big show. Cena screws Rock out of the title and Punk shakes Taker’s hand after losing to him at mania. Cena would then begin his heel run as Punk slowly turns into the top face. Cena can have few filler feuds with the likes of Orton and Ryback before the annual summer Cena/Punk program. Cena will admit that he personally kept Punk from becoming the top guy two years ago and politicked his way into main eventing ppvs even when Punk was champion. Cena retains at money in the bank and Summerslam against Punk.


Cena has a few more filler feuds over the title up until November where The Undertaker returns for his last survivor series which is main evented by a Team Cena/Team Taker match. Cena is kayfabe injured by Taker after being choke slammed of the stage and therefore has to forfeit the title. HHH announces a 30 man battle royal a few weeks later on Raw, Punk is last man in the ring after outlasting what we assumed was 29 men. HHH makes his way down the ramp to present him with the title, just as he’s about to hand Punk the belt, HHH instead nails him in the head with it, throws him over the top rope and says that Punk only outlasted 28 other men and that he was the final participant. HHH who is now the "official" chairman of the board chooses his wwe title opponents at TLC and The Royal Rumble both against complete jobbers garnering him nuclear heat. Punk wins the rumble leading to HHH/Punk for the WWE Championship, Brock/Rock and Cena/Taker(His last match) at Wrestlemania XXX.


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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

^ Interesting. I like it.




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Re: Official The Rock vs. John Cena Thread: Greatness vs. Redemption, TWICE IN A LIFE

I know a lot of you are hoping for a Cena heel turn in this match but its not going to happen. WWE is not going to turn their golden baby heel so ppl please stop getting your hopes up. WM 29 will end the way any typical Cena match has ended. I am just curious how the smarkish crowd in Jersey is going to react when Cena wins the belt.

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I know a lot of you are hoping for a Cena heel turn in this match but its not going to happen. WWE is not going to turn their golden baby heel so ppl please stop getting your hopes up. WM 29 will end the way any typical Cena match has ended. I am just curious how the smarkish crowd in Jersey is going to react when Cena wins the belt.
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