[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by itssoeasy23

If The Rock walk's out of WrestleMania the victor (AGAIN) than I have no clue what this company is going to do for the future.

I told u already: Rock vs Cena 3 at WM 30 next year.

[itssoeasy23]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

I told u already: Rock vs Cena 3 at WM 30 next year.

I really, really hope your wrong. I really think the ideal thing for the 30th Anniversary of WrestleMania should be John Cena vs. The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock. If they never do Cena/Taker it will be a huge missed opportunity and I can't see them having both Rock and Lesnar on the roster without them facing each other at least once before they both leave again.

[The GOAT One]

I think this forum would explode with Rock hate if that happened.

And I'll tell you all something, I'd love it if Rock beat Cena again, LOVE IT.

[CharliePrince]

Originally Posted by The GOAT One

I think this forum would explode with Rock hate if that happened.

And I'll tell you all something, I'd love it if Rock beat Cena again, LOVE IT.

+rep

completely honest to goodness bottom line 150,000% truth

if Vince McMahon in his age, adheres to the golden rule of Wrestling.. since it began this business has always followed 1 rule..

send the fans home happy

The Rock would walk out of Wrestlemania as champion

you wouldn't be the only one happy, 99% of wrestling fans would also LOVE IT

for the life of me, I simply cannot see Cena beating Rock, just the thought of it leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[KING.]

Originally Posted by The GOAT One

I think this forum would explode with Rock hate if that happened.

And I'll tell you all something, I'd love it if Rock beat Cena again, LOVE IT.

Nice.

Anyway, Cena is going over. I shudder to think of a rubber match.

[Elijah89]

Originally Posted by bigdog40

Nah, he'll win his big matches this year and lose to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 30.

This is my problem with Taker beating Cena though. I will ask this question again: Taker beats Cena at WM 30, then what? Taker retiring with his streak intact would be so stupid. Cena is the only guy left for him to face, therefore he should lose. Do you guys actually think that CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Wade Barrett, etc.. ending it would be bigger?

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by Elijah89

This is my problem with Taker beating Cena though. I will ask this question again: Taker beats Cena at WM 30, then what? Taker retiring with his streak intact would be so stupid. Cena is the only guy left for him to face, therefore he should lose. Do you guys actually think that CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Wade Barrett, etc.. ending it would be bigger?

The same question can be applied: Cena ends The Streak...then what? He's been the longest (and the most hated) face of the company in the history of WWE (8 years, tying Hogan which he will surpass next year). He's legacy is already set. Breaking The Streak won't do him a favor, it will only get more people to hate him.

Originally Posted by itssoeasy23

I really, really hope your wrong. I really think the ideal thing for the 30th Anniversary of WrestleMania should be John Cena vs. The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock. If they never do Cena/Taker it will be a huge missed opportunity and I can't see them having both Rock and Lesnar on the roster without them facing each other at least once before they both leave again.

If the rumor's right, Rock/Brock will be done at Summerslam this year.

Besides, there is no reason whatsoever to believe Cena vs Taker will ever happen at any Wrestlemania to begin with. I mean, let's be honest here: Vince doesn't want Taker to fight the face of an era at Wrestlemania. Just look at Hogan (Face of Golden Era), Bret (Face of New Gen), Rock & Austin (Face of AE), and Brock (Face of RA), they never faced Taker at Mania either, right? It's exactly the same reason why Cena (face of PG) and Taker have been booked as far away as possible. Even Cena himself has stated he wants nothing to do with The Streak. So, no, sorry to upset u but I think there's a bigger chance of Sting/Taker happening at WM 30 than Taker/Cena.

Vince had missed many HUGE opportunities with Taker, 6 different occasions by my count: WM 9, 11, 15, 19, 20, and 22.

9: Gonzales instead of, I don't know, the rest of the roster? Hogan, Perfect, and Savage, maybe?

11: Bundy instead of Bret or Owen or even Ted Sr himself

15: Boss Man, because Vince believed Taker could carry the guy to a legendary match and made him a permanent main eventer, instead of Taker/Mankind HIAC rematch.

19: A-Train instead of RVD or Eddie. Hell, make it BOD vs Show & RVD/Eddie. Would have been more entertaining.

20: Kane again, in a mediocre match, instead of Rock, Austin, Goldberg, or Lesnar.

22: Henry instead of Angle. Although Henry kinda redeemed himself the last 3 years.

See? There's no guarantee he won't miss the 7th one. He's, after all, very petty in his way.

[Elijah89]

[quote=The Pied Piper;14080290]The same question can be applied: Cena ends The Streak...then what? He's been the longest (and the most hated) face of the company in the history of WWE (8 years, tying Hogan which he will surpass next year). He's legacy is already set. Breaking The Streak won't do him a favor, it will only get more people to hate him.

Dude, it would be a catalyst to one of the biggest heel runs ever. So him begin hated even more would help. If Cena doesn't end the streak who will. The guy is still relatively young and has at least another ten years left. You can move forward with a heel Cena, you cannot move forward with the Undertaker and his streak at all.

And I have no sympathy for the smarks who hate Cena anyway. The guy is not the most hated face of the company at all (the BUSINESS he does proves that). Put anybody in Cena's shoes and the wise asses would hate that guy too. As a matter of fact though, that would make it even better when Cena ends it. When you look at the story of John Cena he is basically a man who is hated by old school fans simply due the fact that he is their reminder that their time as the main segment of the audience is over. He is their reminder that the era they grew up in is over. These are fans who hate Cena because Cena does not possess the "Attitude" that they were psychologically conditioned to love. That is why The Rock's return was so cool for them, it was the return of one of their top representatives. This was the chance for these fans to regain their throne (it's not gonna happen). Once Cena defeats Rock (he will at some point whether its Mania or Summerslam), the streak will be all those fans have left.

The case of Cena vs The fans of the Attitude Era is alot deeper than "Cena wins too much", "He buries talent", "He panders to the kids", "PG (stupid name for an era) sucks". There is so much emotion in this feud that started in 2006 and I want it to continue. Vince has done the right thing and handed the Attitude Era fans their bottles of bitter pills, but they refuse to swallow them. It will all works itself out in time.

[GillbergReturns]

[quote=Elijah89;14081258]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

The same question can be applied: Cena ends The Streak...then what? He's been the longest (and the most hated) face of the company in the history of WWE (8 years, tying Hogan which he will surpass next year). He's legacy is already set. Breaking The Streak won't do him a favor, it will only get more people to hate him.

Dude, it would be a catalyst to one of the biggest heel runs ever. So him begin hated even more would help. If Cena doesn't end the streak who will. The guy is still relatively young and has at least another ten years left. You can move forward with a heel Cena, you cannot move forward with the Undertaker and his streak at all.

And I have no sympathy for the smarks who hate Cena anyway. The guy is not the most hated face of the company at all (the BUSINESS he does proves that). Put anybody in Cena's shoes and the wise asses would hate that guy too. As a matter of fact though, that would make it even better when Cena ends it. When you look at the story of John Cena he is basically a man who is hated by old school fans simply due the fact that he is their reminder that their time as the main segment of the audience is over. He is their reminder that the era they grew up in is over. These are fans who hate Cena because Cena does not possess the "Attitude" that they were psychologically conditioned to love. That is why The Rock's return was so cool for them, it was the return of one of their top representatives. This was the chance for these fans to regain their throne (it's not gonna happen). Once Cena defeats Rock (he will at some point whether its Mania or Summerslam), the streak will be all those fans have left.

The case of Cena vs The fans of the Attitude Era is alot deeper than "Cena wins too much", "He buries talent", "He panders to the kids", "PG (stupid name for an era) sucks". There is so much emotion in this feud that started in 2006 and I want it to continue. Vince has done the right thing and handed the Attitude Era fans their bottles of bitter pills, but they refuse to swallow them. It will all works itself out in time.

With Lesnar booked thru WM 31 I'm not convinced Taker is retiring just yet. Taker is not necessarily done after Cena and WM 30.

[The Hardcore Show]

[quote=Elijah89;14081258]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

The same question can be applied: Cena ends The Streak...then what? He's been the longest (and the most hated) face of the company in the history of WWE (8 years, tying Hogan which he will surpass next year). He's legacy is already set. Breaking The Streak won't do him a favor, it will only get more people to hate him.

Dude, it would be a catalyst to one of the biggest heel runs ever. So him begin hated even more would help. If Cena doesn't end the streak who will. The guy is still relatively young and has at least another ten years left. You can move forward with a heel Cena, you cannot move forward with the Undertaker and his streak at all.

And I have no sympathy for the smarks who hate Cena anyway. The guy is not the most hated face of the company at all (the BUSINESS he does proves that). Put anybody in Cena's shoes and the wise asses would hate that guy too. As a matter of fact though, that would make it even better when Cena ends it. When you look at the story of John Cena he is basically a man who is hated by old school fans simply due the fact that he is their reminder that their time as the main segment of the audience is over. He is their reminder that the era they grew up in is over. These are fans who hate Cena because Cena does not possess the "Attitude" that they were psychologically conditioned to love. That is why The Rock's return was so cool for them, it was the return of one of their top representatives. This was the chance for these fans to regain their throne (it's not gonna happen). Once Cena defeats Rock (he will at some point whether its Mania or Summerslam), the streak will be all those fans have left.

The case of Cena vs The fans of the Attitude Era is alot deeper than "Cena wins too much", "He buries talent", "He panders to the kids", "PG (stupid name for an era) sucks". There is so much emotion in this feud that started in 2006 and I want it to continue. Vince has done the right thing and handed the Attitude Era fans their bottles of bitter pills, but they refuse to swallow them. It will all works itself out in time.

First off ff Cena continues what he's doing now until he retires the guy is going to be booed at his own HOF induction. Plus its not just the Attitude Era fans that hate him I started watching WWE in 1993 right at the beginning of the New Generation era and I have never seen a character as unlikable as John Cena. Nothing he does makes you want to root for him and unless you think he's trolling people and really get off on that.

Plus like I have said John Cena is not playing a heel EVER. The only megastar that turn heel was Austin and that was his decision. History has shown that when you reach the level John Cena has reach you don't turn heel in WWE unless you force it or the company's very existence depends on it and right now nether of those options look like they will ever be on the table and that is the whole appeal in seeing Undertaker vs John Cena at Wrestlemania.