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Old 01-30-2013, 01:35 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I'm seriously believing that they don't care about their long-term health.

* CM Punk NEEDS to be in the main event at WrestleMania if they are serious in putting him at Cena's level. It doesn't matter if it's Cena-Punk, Rock-Punk, or Rock-Cena-Punk, but he needs to be in the main event.

* Undertaker and Lesnar need to face wrestlers that WWE want as top guys but aren't quite established yet or don't have the feel yet as a legit top guy. I'm talking about the likes of Del Rio and Sheamus. Heck even Randy Orton. Before you laugh, go look at Orton's career and tell me how many top guys he's feuded with that he actually came out on top on. Hard, huh?

* Ditto with Triple H. Rather than getting his win back against someone who is only going to wrestle 3-4 PPV matches a year, he should be wrestling someone WWE is serious of cementing as a top guy as well.

* Jericho is back full-time through WM and he's always willing to put over new/younger talent. Let him do it again with someone like Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett, or Antonio Cesaro. A feud with Barrett already has a starting point with their NXT pro/rookie relationship.



What is wrong with a WrestleMania XXIX card that looks like this?

WWE Title:
Rock (c) vs. CM Punk vs. John Cena

World Heavyweight Title:
Sheamus (c) vs. Brock Lesnar (this could legit cement Sheamus as a top star and with Lesnar challenging for the WHC, it doesn't feel as 2nd rate anymore either)

Triple H vs. Dolph Ziggler (Ziggler could just call out HHH about how he's tired of being held down. Boom, feud started)

Intercontinental Title:
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Chris Jericho

Money In The Bank:
Daniel Bryan vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Damien Sandow vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Mark Henry (have a few former champs in there to give it some more *oomph*)

Big Show vs. Ryback (Shellshocking Big Show at the grandest stage of them all would be a hell of a 'Mania moment)

Undertaker vs. Antonio Cesaro (I know, I know.. There's zero belief by fans that Cesaro poses a threat to the streak but if booked properly, it could give a HUGE rub for him. Having such a spotlight on him due to wrestling Taker would give him the chance to shine brightly and show off his skills big time).


Have Sheamus and Ziggler go over and you could realistically have 4 guys looking like stars at the end of the night (Sheamus, Ziggler, Cesaro, and Ryback).


That still leaves guys like Del Rio, Orton, and The Shield without matches so there are many ways you could go about it. Better yet, it still saves the big matches like Taker-Cena, Taker-Lesnar, Rock-Lesnar,etc for WM 30. You could still do something new like Rock-Ziggler, Rock-Ryback, Punk-Lesnar, and so forth if you want. Point is, doing all these rehashes and having the top guys only going against each other does NOTHING for the rest of the roster. You're only able to elevate and create new stars via pull method. You can't get pushed up if you're not facing someone above you that could pull you up to their level.
LOL I hate your card.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:51 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I'm seriously believing that they don't care about their long-term health.

* CM Punk NEEDS to be in the main event at WrestleMania if they are serious in putting him at Cena's level. It doesn't matter if it's Cena-Punk, Rock-Punk, or Rock-Cena-Punk, but he needs to be in the main event.

* Undertaker and Lesnar need to face wrestlers that WWE want as top guys but aren't quite established yet or don't have the feel yet as a legit top guy. I'm talking about the likes of Del Rio and Sheamus. Heck even Randy Orton. Before you laugh, go look at Orton's career and tell me how many top guys he's feuded with that he actually came out on top on. Hard, huh?

* Ditto with Triple H. Rather than getting his win back against someone who is only going to wrestle 3-4 PPV matches a year, he should be wrestling someone WWE is serious of cementing as a top guy as well.

* Jericho is back full-time through WM and he's always willing to put over new/younger talent. Let him do it again with someone like Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett, or Antonio Cesaro. A feud with Barrett already has a starting point with their NXT pro/rookie relationship.



What is wrong with a WrestleMania XXIX card that looks like this?

WWE Title:
Rock (c) vs. CM Punk vs. John Cena

World Heavyweight Title:
Sheamus (c) vs. Brock Lesnar (this could legit cement Sheamus as a top star and with Lesnar challenging for the WHC, it doesn't feel as 2nd rate anymore either)

Triple H vs. Dolph Ziggler (Ziggler could just call out HHH about how he's tired of being held down. Boom, feud started)

Intercontinental Title:
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Chris Jericho

Money In The Bank:
Daniel Bryan vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Damien Sandow vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Mark Henry (have a few former champs in there to give it some more *oomph*)

Big Show vs. Ryback (Shellshocking Big Show at the grandest stage of them all would be a hell of a 'Mania moment)

Undertaker vs. Antonio Cesaro (I know, I know.. There's zero belief by fans that Cesaro poses a threat to the streak but if booked properly, it could give a HUGE rub for him. Having such a spotlight on him due to wrestling Taker would give him the chance to shine brightly and show off his skills big time).


Have Sheamus and Ziggler go over and you could realistically have 4 guys looking like stars at the end of the night (Sheamus, Ziggler, Cesaro, and Ryback).


That still leaves guys like Del Rio, Orton, and The Shield without matches so there are many ways you could go about it. Better yet, it still saves the big matches like Taker-Cena, Taker-Lesnar, Rock-Lesnar,etc for WM 30. You could still do something new like Rock-Ziggler, Rock-Ryback, Punk-Lesnar, and so forth if you want. Point is, doing all these rehashes and having the top guys only going against each other does NOTHING for the rest of the roster. You're only able to elevate and create new stars via pull method. You can't get pushed up if you're not facing someone above you that could pull you up to their level.
I appreciate your card for being different than what it will be, although it is weak, I'd much rather have yours than theirs.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:31 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I appreciate your card for being different than what it will be, although it is weak, I'd much rather have yours than theirs.
Looks good to me. Thats the fucking problem with WWE today. Older guys are not putting over the younger guys. If you look at the history of WWE that is how they always did it. Andre put over Hogan, Bret put over shawn, Shawn put over austin, rock put over brock, etc. Guys like HHH, The Rock, Cena, I wont mention Y2J caz he has done enough, Brock, they should all be putting over young guys at mania. Sheamus, del rio, ziggler, barrett, cesaro, all need to go over a legend to cement themselves one day.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:41 PM   #94 (permalink)
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I think things may not have been as obvious if Rock didn't challenge for the WWE Title on RAW 1000. However, then how would Punk's heel turn be built up?

Depends if the long build as heel or turning within weeks before Rumble would make a difference. We'll see with the buy rate.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:43 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Chris Jericho has had no major wins in recent history nor has he won any big PPV match in recent history.
How is it believable that Jericho could end the streak.
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Chris Jericho has had no major wins in recent history nor has he won any big PPV match in recent history.
How is it believable that Jericho could end the streak.
Huh? Are you responding to me? I'm talking about CM Punk and the predictability with the exception of Ryback at HIAC causing some of this predictability, but if the buy rate is huge it would seemed to have worked the way it was done.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:52 PM   #97 (permalink)
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I feel bad for The Miz. He has the making of a real star. Hes entertaing and skilled in ring and is one of the best on a mic, he reminds me of a young jericho. When he got his WM push tho, he was overshadowed by rock/cena and since then has been cast off into the wilderness when it comes to world title pictures
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:01 PM   #98 (permalink)
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To the title of this thread....no shit
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:08 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Definitely prefer predictability over shitty swerves that make no sense.


Exactly, yes some things in wrestling are predictable, yet proper. I rather have that, then have a bunch of pointless shit and get to Rock vs Cena anyway.
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You realised, back in 2010, that John Cena would win the 2013 Royal Rumble to set up a rematch of a match which hadn't even transpired yet? Against a guy who would not return for another year?

Ok.
I think he was just referring to the predictability of the WWE in general, however i still Lol'd at your response
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