Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
I'm assuming this match will close the show. I also think Cena will defeat Ziggler to win the world title, after DZ cashes in during the chairs match.
This may seem like Ziggler is being buried at the expense of SuperCena - but what else would you expect from WWE? In the kayfabe world, Dolph is Mr Perfect to Cena's Hulk Hogan. And Hogan buried Perfect at every opportunity. Furthermore, they didn't hesitate to feed Miz, Barrett, Del Rio etc to John. Why would they treat Dolph any differently?
Also, they often close the December PPV with a babyface win. Ryback was losing to Punk; The Shield was probably going over Orton and Hell No; Cesaro is going over Truth. Logically, Ziggler was going over Show/Sheamus. There HAS to be a babyface win somewhere.
Plus, it gives them the chance of a teaser showdown between Cena and Rock - both as world champions - at the Royal Rumble or the night after.
Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
I hope there won't be Ziggler vs Sheamus feud. Sheamus should not job to this fool after owning his sorry ass for months. I don't want him to cash in or let him do it on Big Show. From what I read, they might bring Mark Henry in the WHC picture anyways so we'll see.
Oh I forgot about this match. Ziggler retains. Thats all
Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
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I hope there won't be Ziggler vs Sheamus feud. Sheamus should not job to this fool after owning his sorry ass for months. I don't want him to cash in or let him do it on Big Show. From what I read, they might bring Mark Henry in the WHC picture anyways so we'll see.
Oh I forgot about this match. Ziggler retains. Thats all
Ziggles would probably be booked to use every heel method in the book to beat Sheamus. It will be like when DB was getting owned by Henry on a regular and all of sudden started outwitting Henry once he one the championship.
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Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
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The fact that Ziggler's MITB is on the line makes his match at the MITB PPV seem worthless,Terrible WWE booking.If Ziggler does actually lose his MITB I will be pissed,The guy MUST become world champion.
No he mustn't. The last thing we need is another ridiculous, bland world champion.
I hope Cena does beat him, it'll be one of the best moments of the year. Rock vs Cena for the title is gonna happen ANYWAY, there's no way around it, so we might as well enjoy an undeserving contender losing his one ticket to relevance, rather than suffer through him as a world champion and have Cena steal a title shot in a Rumble or Elimination Chamber from somebody more deserving.
Ziggler will win in the end, though. What a treat we're in for. Fuck.
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Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
The only way I will root for Cena, and a Cena/Rock rematch, is if he does indeed win the WHC eventually, and goes on to a title unification match with Rock at Mania (which he would definitely win).
Would be a small sacrifice for something much better for the future.
Anyone with a brain in Dolph's position would just cash in the briefcase before TLC and Dolph isn't a stupid character so this just makes the writers and bookers look like morons.
this will be a fun match and i like the idea. I'm a big Ziggler fan and i'm glad he's defending the briefcase. It will actually give the briefcase more credibility and remind people that Ziggler is, infact, the MITB winner. And when he retains it will be great because he'll just have beaten Cena on PPV. Rather this, than keeping him protected until he cashes in, and then when he cashes in it looks like a complete fluke. At least this way it shows Ziggler can hang in there with the top dogs of WWE.
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This match is so stupid.
Anyone with a brain in Dolph's position would just cash in the briefcase before TLC and Dolph isn't a stupid character so this just makes the writers and bookers look like morons.
yeah but it's a risk, he can't just cash it in when he likes, what if he losses? He has to wait for the oppurtunity.
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Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
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Ziggles would probably be booked to use every heel method in the book to beat Sheamus. It will be like when DB was getting owned by Henry on a regular and all of sudden started outwitting Henry once he one the championship.
well vs sheamus last week they protected ziggler, keyfabe wise he is not the same who took pin after pin from the big white, right now they are booking him as a improved opponent, that's why i don't understand why he's still heel... he is the ultimate underdog
this can be huge. sheamus beats big show after a big fight, both men can't stand. ziggler cashes his MITB briefcase wins the WHC. Vince gets mad and makes the main event of TLC Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena for WHC. Shield think it is unfair for Ziggler, they interrupt and help ziggler retain. PLEASE WWE MAKE IT HAPPEN!
this can be huge. sheamus beats big show after a big fight, both men can't stand. ziggler cashes his MITB briefcase wins the WHC. Vince gets mad and makes the main event of TLC Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena for WHC. Shield think it is unfair for Ziggler, they interrupt and help ziggler retain. PLEASE WWE MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Ahh, I never considered The Shield's involvement with this. Nice thinking.
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Re: Official John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler Ladder Match Discussion
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