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Old 11-27-2012, 03:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why watch any ppv?

It's the whole typical IWC, predict the outcome or listen to every rumour and bitch about it when it happens.

And it's not just that:

You say you want longer title reigns, cm punk (the IWC's boy) is nearly beating cena's (the IWC's hatred) reign yet you still complain.

You want the attitude era back, they get a little more edgier with the heart attack angle, yet you complain they went too far (not all did though).

You complain ryback is winning too much and say he doesn't deserve a title shot yet, but when he looses you complain more.

You say the wwe title design is ugly and anything else would be better, yet a leaked picture is shown and you complain even more

I'm pretty sure everyone who is creaming about dean ambrose debuting will inevitably be bitching about it in a few weeks.

Over the last few months I have stayed away from rumours and "backstage gossip" and I have found the product to be a little more entertaining. The IWC is its own worst enemy, they always have the impression that the wwe doesn't listen to fans, but I think they listen more than you think. You remember your whole " new title debuting tonight" that got plastered all over the boards? Well I bet wwe picked up on that, not much of a surprise anymore if everyone is expecting it, so they scrap the idea to be re thought later down the line. Same can be said for many other events.

Just think, why was the attitude era so successful? Because the Internet wasn't as easily accessible and a bigger section of fans didn't hear rumours or gossip as there is today.

So I ask, why watch if you are going to get annoyed all the time when "predictable" stuff happens?
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I'll use this analogy; it's like paying for porn. Yes, we know how everything starts, even the finish, but you don't know how they get there. Some scenes might be more spectacular than others. Or you can put it this way if you hate porn...There really is only one match where the winner is pretty much determined, but there is always the "What if"? We know how WWE can be retarded in it's methods of booking. Hell, would it really surprise you if Punk lost the belt to be rewarded with it the next night on Raw? Can you really fathom something like that not happening? That's just based off of one match, so imagine the screwy shit in between. It's cool to be pessimistic, and yes it's hard to bare sometimes, but you never know what could happen, and that supersedes almost everything even if it's just for one night and the next it goes back to shit.
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Just stop reading the dirt sheets and everything will be less predictable.


*reading that Sheamus will win RR Match*

Sheamus wins RR Match

*complaining how predictable that was*

Typical IWC.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
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You can have a predictable, but still enjoyable show. Elimination Chamber was proof of that.

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The question is, how will it end. We all know Punk will retain, but how. And who knows, maybe he won't retain at all.

Hell in a Cell surprised us, and so did Survivor Series. That's what it's all about.
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What the hell is the point of ordering when fucking Ryback is in a main event TLC match when there's a roster full of people that can be excellent in that kind of match?

If you go on the internet, you generally know whose going to win most matches anyway.
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Why does the title being passed around give it no meaning? Don't you think the title had a hell of a lot more meaning in the Attitude Era than it does now? And how often was it "passed around" back then? Don't be so foolish.
Haha, what a foolish post. The Attitude era the belt was passed between, if you count 1997 as Attitude Era; Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold, Triple H, The Rock, The Undertaker, Mankind, Mr. McMahon, Big Show & Kurt Angle.

That's 10 champions. 7 of these champions are in the top 10 of all-time in the US, (Bret, HBK, Stone Cold, Triple H, Rock, Undertaker, Angle,) Mankind was MASSIVELY OVER when he won the belt as well, like amazingly over. That leaves two blotches, a heel Vince McMahon who held it for a week and vacated it, and Big Show who ended up with it through injuries and luck. All of this in a 3 and a half year period. Let's compare to them "passing it around now" if they began at the TLC PPV, who would they pass it to? RyBack, Cena, Ziggler...? Who else? Big Show, Sheamus... Kane, Daniel Bryan?

The point I'm trying to make is even though the title may have been passed around more back then, it was passed around between wrestlers who were, arguably, more over than anybody else prior to them. If they began to do that now, it would kill the title. That would be foolish.

So, if you feel like Punk will retain, and let's face it we're all 92% sure that he will, things could happen that you don't expect. Ryback defeats Punk, Punk doesn't want a rematch until Royal Rumble where it becomes a Triple Threat and Punk pins Ryback to retain with help of Brock Lesnar, leading to The Rock VS Punk and Ryback VS Lesnar at Wrestlemania. It may not be amazing, but it's something they could do. You never know what will happen.

Try betting on wrestling, then you will know how hard it is to guess.

Of all the PPVs to watch just for the spectacle of it though, I would suggest TLC is up there through high spots alone.
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TLC matches are usually fun, even though Punk will most likely retain.
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Why does the title being passed around give it no meaning? Don't you think the title had a hell of a lot more meaning in the Attitude Era than it does now? And how often was it "passed around" back then? Don't be so foolish.
exactly. the occasional long reign is good, but they can't make every single reign long, it makes it predictable and boring. Look at Edge in 2006, he had one month reigns and still became a big star because his feud with Cena was really enjoyable.
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exactly. the occasional long reign is good, but they can't make every single reign long, it makes it predictable and boring. Look at Edge in 2006, he had one month reigns and still became a big star because his feud with Cena was really enjoyable.
Hang on, are we assuming that all reigns prior to CM Punks year-long version were long? CM Punk won the title in November 2011, and between Novemeber 2010 and then, there were 8 title reigns. That's definitely passing the title around.

I remember at the time that Triple H was rumoured to have came in and one of the things he wanted was for the champions to hold the belts for longer to give them more prestige, which happened. People care more now than they did about Cena, Del Rio, Mysterio and Miz's reigns in my opinion.

I don't understand though, people don't want Punk to carry on as champion, they want the biggest title in American wrestling, arguably worldwide, to be passed around between John Cena, Punk & Ryback because they feel it's repetitive. A year-long title has been the most refreshing thing at the top of WWE for a good few years.
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