View Poll Results: Who Will Win?
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11-14-2012, 05:39 PM
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#91 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
I'm not expecting a easy pin for CM Punk like happened at SS. At sunday will be the 364º day for Punk's title reign (1 day left to 1 year).
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11-14-2012, 06:34 PM
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#92 (permalink)
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US CHAMP BITCHEEEEEEEEES!!!!
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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this match might have a making of the most messed up matches there is. AJ Lee, Dolph Ziggler, Paul Heyman, Mick Foley, & Brad Maddox might all interfere in this match to be honest.
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Didn't even think about Aj.. oh my... what if they.. oh god... I can really imagine them doing it.

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11-14-2012, 06:49 PM
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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Didn't even think about Aj.. oh my... what if they.. oh god... I can really imagine them doing it.

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whats that?
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11-15-2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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Trying to figure out how in the hell to even approach Ryback this Sunday. #survivorseries will be quite interesting.
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kick him in the nuts
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11-16-2012, 02:37 PM
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WWE.COM: Is Ryback Ready For His Toughest Test At Survivor Series
http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorser...-test-26068752
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Is Ryback ready for his toughest test at Survivor Series?

In one corner stands CM Punk, he of the WWE Championship and brazen attitude, erstwhile Voice of the Voiceless and only a few days away from having held his title for a full 365 days.
In the other corner stands John Cena, WWE’s “resident Superman,” he of the record 10 (count ’em 10) WWE Championships, infallible moral code and renewed vigor after being sidelined for a month by surgery to his elbow.
Standing between the two of them is Ryback, the unstable third element in the already shaky equation. The wildcard, the X-factor, foe to both men and, ultimately, the one Superstar of the three who might be in the most trouble come Sunday.
This is, at first glance, a questionable assertion given Ryback’s mostly unchecked rampage throughout WWE over the course of 2012. The insatiable strongman has gone from decimating ham-and-egger local competitors to challenging for the WWE Title in a mere eight months (and should have, for all intents and purposes, won the title if not for Brad Maddox). Ryback’s status as the premier monster in WWE is beyond dispute. And yet in Punk and Cena, the beast faces his toughest test to date, stepping into the ring against a man he has not yet beaten and a man he has not yet faced.
Both present an equal challenge for Ryback, who wrestles like a wrecking ball, but has yet to prove himself capable of finding a way to tear the title from Punk. Defeating Punk requires, to a certain degree, the same kind of chicanery and willingness to bend the rules of engagement (both spoken and unspoken) the champion himself exploits at every turn. Ryback has yet to display a game plan apart from the crush-kill-destroy mentality he used to tear through the ranks during his rise, but he still fell short against Punk at Hell in a Cell. Unmanning Cena requires a less intricate strategy: One must simply outlast him. But as was speculated by no less a Superstar than Mick Foley before Hell in a Cell, Ryback’s stamina has never been put to the test, even after Hell in a Cell (his most recent victory was a one-sided curb stomping of Maddox on Monday Night Raw).
Having to alternate between the two game plans could prove difficult for the beast, and that’s not even counting what Punk and Cena may have in store for him. The Second City Saint holds a relatively even record against the Cenation leader since their match at Money in the Bank 2011, which means he and Cena are almost perfectly matched. A straight-up contest between the two is controllable for them, with the variables less likely and the outcome less unpredictable. This, of course, means the ideal strategy for both Punk and Cena would be to eradicate Ryback as quickly as possible. A reluctant alliance between the two foes is not out of the question, and the big man will likely step into Survivor Series with a giant target on his back.
What it may come down to, in the end, is a matter of mentality. To put it in the simplest terms possible: CM Punk will do anything to retain his title at Survivor Series and reign as WWE Champion for a year. Cena will stop at nothing to teach Punk a lesson and reclaim the title for himself, preventing Punk from reaching the milestone. Standing in both of their ways is the unstable element, the ingredient to turn the whole situation critical, the man whose appetite for destruction has broadened to WWE Championship contendership. Cena wants to beat Punk; Punk needs to retain his championship. Ryback? Ryback, for the most part, is just hungry. And if the meal comes with a side of championship gold, so be it. If not, a decimated body has sufficed for him in the past.
If only things were still so simple. The stakes are higher, the pieces in place and the equation is primed to blow. At Survivor Series, it will reach critical mass. And Ryback may well find himself caught in the fallout.
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11-16-2012, 03:02 PM
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Lacing SCOTT STEINER's boots
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
Has anyone else noticed that the heel is the one with the odds stacked against him yet AGAIN? Which goes against pro wrestling logic because I shouldn't be sympathizing with the guy I want to see get beat...
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11-16-2012, 05:58 PM
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Working on my abs
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
From here on up until the Royal Rumble, there's no way CM Punk's losing his WWE Championship anytime soon, so it's fairly obvious he's winning this for sure, and rightly so. Not sure how but he will for sure, but I do see him scoring the pinfall on John Cena. So yeah, that's my prediction.
As far as the Triple Threat match itself goes, I'm very much looking forward to it and for the many reasons too. For one, we're finally going to have Cena and Ryback sqaure-off, they've been briefly teasing and building this for a while now. Then you have the renewed rivalry and chemistry that Cena and Punk have. And while Ryback is very lacking in terms of ring talent, the laters aren't and far from it too, so they're both pretty capable of carrying him to an overall great match. And like I've stated in the beginning, Punk's obviously retaining, so it'll be very interesting to see how he does it.
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11-16-2012, 06:08 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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Has anyone else noticed that the heel is the one with the odds stacked against him yet AGAIN? Which goes against pro wrestling logic because I shouldn't be sympathizing with the guy I want to see get beat...
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Yes, I tend to keep mentioning it fairly regularly because the odd booking just never stops. It's not only that the sympathies get screwed up, they've pretty much already given the crowd everything they should want on Raw, which is Ryback and Cena getting their hands on Punk and coming out on top all the time.
I think that with just fixing one single thing - learning how too book heels efficiently - their product quality would increase immensely.
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11-16-2012, 07:03 PM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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11-17-2012, 12:59 AM
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Carrying SCOTT STEINER's bags
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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena vs. Ryback Discussion
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Originally Posted by KO Bossy
Has anyone else noticed that the heel is the one with the odds stacked against him yet AGAIN? Which goes against pro wrestling logic because I shouldn't be sympathizing with the guy I want to see get beat...
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Punk has been champion for a year. Smart booking right now calls for the odds to be put against him, as that will get them buyers who want to see him finally lose the WWE Title. Then in the end Punk will prove them wrong and end up winning, and the fans will buy yet again at the next PPV to see him lose. That's how it works for casuals anyway. Giving him easier challenges every PPV will turn off viewers, who will just think 'Yet another PPV where Punk will sneak out victorious' But when they see Ryback and Cena as his opponents, they think 'No way he is leaving this one as champ, i so want to buy this and see him lose'. you see my point?
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Last edited by Shawn Morrison : 11-17-2012 at 01:01 AM.
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