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Old 10-28-2012, 09:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It's "should be" Gimmicky. "Should have been" is presuming that the match already happened...which it hasn't.
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It's "should be" Gimmicky. "Should have been" is presuming that the match already happened...which it hasn't.
I was saying "should have been" in the sense that I wasn't sure whether it had been decided the match was not going to be Hell in a Cell.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:42 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I don't think Ziggler cashing in has anything to do with the WHC match not being in the Cell. Who's to say he couldn't run in after the match was over and the Cell was being lifted? I think the intention was to have just one, as Punk/Cena actually fits a HIAC match, but they had to switch to The Ryback.
Glad it's not anyway. It's bad enough this PPV still exists without adding more unnecessary Cell matches.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Big Show vs. Sheamus should have been (should be?) HiaC, they're both big guys who take cool spots and cool spots generally make up for poorer wrestling. They're not that bad wrestlers, but I imagine this fight wont be the most memorable of clashes.
Yeah Whitey gets gassed, has no cardio, and Show is a given on the pace of the match. So it's not going to be fast paced if it goes more than 10 min. Lots of rest holds incoming.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:46 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Oh my God will the over analyzing of Ryback/Punk stop.

All I've been hearing is the same shit. "Ryback's first long match. He needs to prove he can go"

Seriously, this isn't the first time he's doing the Ryback gimmick and I can damn sure say this isn't going to be his first long match. The guy's been competing for years now. I'm sure Ryback knows how to tell a story in the ring.

Oh and the worst thing WWE could do is have Ziggler cash in. There's no momentum on Ziggler right now. Apart from mentioning it probably about 2 times in the past month, they haven't really played off the whole Ziggler has assured us that he is going to cash in at HIAC. That and no one will care since he cashed on a boring ass Big Show vs Sheamus feud.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:55 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Oh my God will the over analyzing of Ryback/Punk stop.

All I've been hearing is the same shit. "Ryback's first long match. He needs to prove he can go"

Seriously, this isn't the first time he's doing the Ryback gimmick and I can damn sure say this isn't going to be his first long match. The guy's been competing for years now. I'm sure Ryback knows how to tell a story in the ring.

Oh and the worst thing WWE could do is have Ziggler cash in. There's no momentum on Ziggler right now. Apart from mentioning it probably about 2 times in the past month, they haven't really played off the whole Ziggler has assured us that he is going to cash in at HIAC. That and no one will care since he cashed on a boring ass Big Show vs Sheamus feud.
Having the MITB winner cash in with no momentum has become as much of a tradition as the MITB match itself. Plus him cashing in on a boring feud won't matter. Nearly everything Sheamus has been involved in during his title reign has been boring.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:01 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Having the MITB winner cash in with no momentum has become as much of a tradition as the MITB match itself. Plus him cashing in on a boring feud won't matter. Nearly everything Sheamus has been involved in during his title reign has been boring.
WWE has fucked up way too many times with Ziggler in the past. At first they took too long to put the IC title on him. When Ziggler won the IC title back in 2010 no one gave a fuck. That and it was on an episode of SD with no build.

Then they pulled the trigger to soon and put the WHC on him.....for 13 minutes.

The last thing Ziggler needs is another pre-mature title run. Let it just happen on its own. Don't rush things. We have an entire year to work with. Could you imagine if WWE didn't wait as long as they did with Edge? The timing for Edge's cash in was perfect. Both cash ins as a matter of fact.

You don't just wake up one morning and decide to create moments in wrestling, they just happen. Or at least that's how the fans perceive it. Remember the Punk shoot? It just happened. It built to apoint and when it occurred it was lightning in a bottle. Somehow, someway everything just magically falls into the place and now is not the time for Ziggler to cash in MITB.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:41 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Oh jeah, I'm excited!

Can't wait!
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:45 PM   #50 (permalink)
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WWE has fucked up way too many times with Ziggler in the past. At first they took too long to put the IC title on him. When Ziggler won the IC title back in 2010 no one gave a fuck. That and it was on an episode of SD with no build.

Then they pulled the trigger to soon and put the WHC on him.....for 13 minutes.

The last thing Ziggler needs is another pre-mature title run. Let it just happen on its own. Don't rush things. We have an entire year to work with. Could you imagine if WWE didn't wait as long as they did with Edge? The timing for Edge's cash in was perfect. Both cash ins as a matter of fact.

You don't just wake up one morning and decide to create moments in wrestling, they just happen. Or at least that's how the fans perceive it. Remember the Punk shoot? It just happened. It built to apoint and when it occurred it was lightning in a bottle. Somehow, someway everything just magically falls into the place and now is not the time for Ziggler to cash in MITB.
You don't have to tell me, I agree with you. I was merely pointing out that WWE hasn't learned from its past mistakes and it would be just like them to have another guy with no momentum become World Champ. They did it with Swagger, they did it with Miz (well, not NO momentum, but Miz wasn't exactly the hottest guy on the roster), they did it with Daniel Bryan last year (though of course, that turned out way better than anyone could've possibly expected).
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