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Old 10-23-2012, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Can only see a Team Hell No win here. I expect them to keep the belts for a few months at least plus i don't think Rhodes and Sandow really need the tag championships as they should both be good single competitors instead.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't understand why you have such a big problem with this team.
A whole list of reasons:

- I'm not a fan of Cody Rhodes at all (unlike you). He just screams mediocre, generic, bland, he's a walking CAW, who on top of that isn't as talented as Sandow and it really shows.

- They're making out Cody to be the superior of the group which I don't like for reasons mentioned above.

- I feel this group was only put together to build Cody back up again and I think they really didn't have plans for Sandow.

- Sandow's character is one that shines on his own. He's a unique and refreshing character and ever since he's started teaming with Cody I feel he's been not as good as he was by himself. Through no fault of his own though, he's been getting less promo time since tagging with Cody (which is bad because that's what he's best at) and the promos are more generic imo. He's no longer talking about saving the unwashed masses, or being your martyr, or giving us a vocabulary lession, instead it's just generic tag team promo content. Sandow's making the best of it, but still...

- I feel Sandow should be getting the singles push to the top that he deserves. He's certainly got the talent for it, but is being held down the tag team division right now. Despite the rejuvenation of the tag team division at the moment, I still feel Sandow's above that. He should be IC Champion right now or something. This was the guy who shared the ring with DX on the 1000th episode of RAW and now he recently jobbed to Sin Cara...

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I'm probably a bigger Sandow mark than you are and it doesn't really bother me much anymore to be honest, in fact I quite like them together.
Well you like Cody too, so it's understandable that you would like them together. You may be a bigger Sandow mark than me now, Sandow was my number 2 guy in the company, but now he's fallen to number 4.

I just hope you're right about this team only being short term.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I like Team Rhodes Scholars and wanted them to win the tourny but i want Team Hell No to win
Pretty much this.
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A whole list of reasons:

- I'm not a fan of Cody Rhodes at all (unlike you). He just screams mediocre, generic, bland, he's a walking CAW, who on top of that isn't as talented as Sandow and it really shows.
That's fine, but it doesn't matter whether you like, dislike, or are completely indifferent to him as you seem to be, they've made it abundantly clear it's a short term team. People on the internet have been saying shit like that about Cody for years, if you ask actual people of the business who know what it takes to be a star, like JR, Heyman, JBL, Booker etc, they'll tell you a different story. If he was so mediocre, he'd have gone the way of Ted Jr/DH Smith/McGillicutty/Uso's etc. He is where he is because he's good, not great yet, but good with the potential to be great.

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- They're making out Cody to be the superior of the group which I don't like for reasons mentioned above.
You're preaching to the fucking choir here, completely agree.

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- I feel this group was only put together to build Cody back up again and I think they really didn't have plans for Sandow.
I think they are looking to build Cody back up, but Sandow is getting the brunt of the mic work the team is doing. If they weren't interested in Sandow, they wouldn't have paired him with Rhodes, and he certainly wouldn't be working with Kane and Bryan.

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- Sandow's character is one that shines on his own. He's a unique and refreshing character and ever since he's started teaming with Cody I feel he's been not as good as he was by himself. Through no fault of his own though, he's been getting less promo time since tagging with Cody (which is bad because that's what he's best at) and the promos are more generic imo. He's no longer talking about saving the unwashed masses, or being your martyr, or giving us a vocabulary lession, instead it's just generic tag team promo content. Sandow's making the best of it, but still...
I somewhat agree here, but his promo's certainly haven't declined. I find with Sandow, he's not just a guy that uses big words and belittles the audience, he seems to fully embrace his character, the facial expressions, the timing, slight little things that he does, whether whilst cutting a promo or not, that seperate him from other upper midcarders like Cody, Miz, Kofi etc.

His "savior" and "martyr" shtick was and still is great, but he has more depth now, he's proving himself to be a versatile performer. Working with guys like Kane and Bryan is allowing him to familiarise himself with more casual fans that may only care about the big segments. He opened Raw and then opened the third hour last night, that kind of exposure is only good for Damien. He isn't a "new guy" anymore, he is firmly established in the upper midcard, a guy that can hang with former World Champions.

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- I feel Sandow should be getting the singles push to the top that he deserves. He's certainly got the talent for it, but is being held down the tag team division right now. Despite the rejuvenation of the tag team division at the moment, I still feel Sandow's above that. He should be IC Champion right now or something. This was the guy who shared the ring with DX on the 1000th episode of RAW and now he recently jobbed to Sin Cara...
Right now, the Tag Titles are more important than the IC Title. If he and Cody were challenging Kofi and Truth or Epico and Primo or whatever, I'd agree, but they aren't, they have been working with 3 former World Heavyweight Champions, 2 former WWE Champions. Their match is probably the 3rd most important on the entire show, WELL above the IC Title match. Is that down to Bryan and Kane? YES (pun lol) but working as an antagonist to those two guys is helping Sandow, and getting him more over with the casual fans.


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Well you like Cody too, so it's understandable that you would like them together. You may be a bigger Sandow mark than me now, Sandow was my number 2 guy in the company, but now he's fallen to number 4.

I just hope you're right about this team only being short term.
Yes I do like Cody, I also like CM Punk and Kofi Kingston, that doesn't mean I wanna see them together as a team. I hated the idea of this team at first, but the way it has panned out, and the way they have been booked, I'm cool with it. It is definitely a short term team, they stress it on commentary that they aren't a real team literally every time they wrestle.

You might not be a fan of his tag partner, but it's not like he's tagging with David Otunga or Jinder Mahal or something, he's tagging with a guy who's worked with Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio and The Big Show at the last three Wrestlemania's. They aren't exactly a nothing team, they are firmly established at the top of the midcard, with Bryan and Kane, and it is an ascension from the squash matches and low card feuds with Clay and Ryder, he had done previously.
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What I'd change is I'd present them more as equals, Rhodes getting all the pins is bugging me a bit. Sandow is just as entertaining as he's always been, he was gold on the mic tonight. If I was you, I'd check out his rant about there being no mineral water on the backstage exclusive last week, epic.
buh? Maybe I am bias, but Sandow seems barely leading the team. Also, cartwheeling to Rhodes music just looks better. Doubly so, given how Cody effin' twirls as he helps the cartwheel.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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A whole list of reasons:

- I'm not a fan of Cody Rhodes at all (unlike you). He just screams mediocre, generic, bland, he's a walking CAW, who on top of that isn't as talented as Sandow and it really shows.
and yet Dolph Ziggler is your avatar, and Ryback is your sig.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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This should be a great match.
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They needed a team credible enough to job so that when a REAL tag team beats hell no it'll mean something. Smart booking by the WWE. Anyways I'm looking forward to seeing Bryan slap the No Lock on that bearded goof Sandrone!
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Given that both Kane and Bryan lost their single's match last night and continue to turn on each other even further, I think it looks to be the beginning of the end for THN and that they'll probably lose the tag titles come Sunday. JMT.
No, that's the reason they will retain.
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