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post #41 of 370 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 07:07 PM
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^^^ Plus it was in CM Punks home town
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Quality wise sure maybe, but general atmosphere no. WWE was on a MASSIVE high around that time. Whilst now Punk's heel character is good it does not compare to July of 2011 by any means.
Well let's just hope for a great match we can talk about years from now

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^^^ Plus it was in CM Punks home town
True that was perhaps the best crowd of the current era. And was one big reason the match was amazing, everything fell into place.

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Oh yeah no doubt the match should be fantastic with the chemistry these two have.

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Heres my question:

Its obvious Royal Rumble is going to be either Rock/Cena II or Rock/Punk for the WWE title. Does the WWE even have anyone enter the title picture between now and then? If so, does this mean we will get a Punk/Cena match at Hell in a Cell, Survivor Series and TLC too? I suppose it could work since 2 out of the 4 would be gimmick matches but wouldnt the feud grow stale? Its too bad Lesnar wont enter the title picture.
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Heres my question:

Its obvious Royal Rumble is going to be either Rock/Cena II or Rock/Punk for the WWE title. Does the WWE even have anyone enter the title picture between now and then? If so, does this mean we will get a Punk/Cena match at Hell in a Cell, Survivor Series and TLC too? I suppose it could work since 2 out of the 4 would be gimmick matches but wouldnt the feud grow stale? Its too bad Lesnar wont enter the title picture.
Well they can do some different things with it. Cena/Rock team vs CM Punk "Team" at Survivor Series.

Have punk face someone new at Hell in a Cell, and TLC. I don't see them taking the belt off of Punk at this point or else it makes Punk's reign really seem like a seat warming.

The only part that confuses me, is if Rock wins at RR and goes into WM as champ... He will have to defend the strap in the Elimination Chamber, which I've heard from Y2J, Triple H, Orton and HBK is the most painful match they've done

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Re: Official CM Punk vs. John Cena Discussion

- CM Punk have too many wins over Cena, but CM Punk need to win again
- CM Punk vs The Rock is the match to make
- Rock need to win the belt from CM Punk to introduce the newly designed WWE belt,and shit on Cena spinner belt
- Cena need to win the Royal Rumble to setup Rock/Cena 2 at WM29
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The only part that confuses me, is if Rock wins at RR and goes into WM as champ... He will have to defend the strap in the Elimination Chamber, which I've heard from Y2J, Triple H, Orton and HBK is the most painful match they've done
Rock would not have to work a Chamber Match. In 2011, WWE Champion Miz wrestled Jerry Lawler and the Raw Chamber Match was a #1 Contender's match.


As for the CM Punk v. John Cena feud, if the writing is strong enough they can extend it to December. Other people can intercept at certain points especially at the Survivor Series PPV.

They could book it like this:

NOC: Punk outsmarts Cena and gets Cena disqualified or a quick roll-up
HIAC: In a HIAC match Punk barely escapes with a win, maybe from interference
SSeries: Team Cena wins
TLC: In a TLC match, Punk escapes with the championship
RRumble: Rock defeats Punk for his 10th WWE/World Championship
EC: Rock beats Punk in re-match; Cena wins #1 Contender's EC
WM29: Rock vs. Cena II - "Re-Match of the Century"

This is just one possible road they can take. During this entire period you should see Cena get more frustrated and question if he is the best like he claims to be. As the disappointing attempts to regain the title or a shot at the title (Royal Rumble Match) mount, Cena should start to become more determined to make it to WM29. He becomes more aggressive (edgier) wins the Elimination Chamber match then goes on to WrestleMania where he finally wins the gold again by defeating The Rock. After WrestleMania, Punk and Cena can have one final match at Extreme Rules (LMS, I Quit, or Iron Man) where Cena finally defeats Punk to retain the title and end one of the best feuds of this era.

Now this is not what I want to see but I'm trying to make a likely direction WWE will go in sound interesting. Cena's road to the title should be grueling and have some extensive build and storytelling to the triumph. It would be so underwhelming if Cena & Punk trade titles before 2013.


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Rock would not have to work a Chamber Match. In 2011, WWE Champion Miz wrestled Jerry Lawler and the Raw Chamber Match was a #1 Contender's match.


As for the CM Punk v. John Cena feud, if the writing is strong enough they can extend it to December. Other people can intercept at certain points especially at the Survivor Series PPV.

They could book it like this:

NOC: Punk outsmarts Cena and gets Cena disqualified or a quick roll-up
HIAC: In a HIAC match Punk barely escapes with a win, maybe from interference
SSeries: Team Cena wins
TLC: In a TLC match, Punk escapes with the championship
RRumble: Rock defeats Punk for his 10th WWE/World Championship
EC: Rock beats Punk in re-match; Cena wins #1 Contender's EC
WM29: Rock vs. Cena II - "Re-Match of the Century"

This is just one possible road they can take. During this entire period you should see Cena get more frustrated and question if he is the best like he claims to be. As the disappointing attempts to regain the title or a shot at the title (Royal Rumble Match) mount, Cena should start to become more determined to make it to WM29. He becomes more aggressive (edgier) wins the Elimination Chamber match then goes on to WrestleMania where he finally wins the gold again by defeating The Rock. After WrestleMania, Punk and Cena can have one final match at Extreme Rules (LMS, I Quit, or Iron Man) where Cena finally defeats Punk to retain the title and end one of the best feuds of this era.

Now this is not what I want to see but I'm trying to make a likely direction WWE will go in sound interesting. Cena's road to the title should be grueling and have some extensive build and storytelling to the triumph. It would be so underwhelming if Cena & Punk trade titles before 2013.
I really agree with everything you said. I can't say I would be mad if Rock wins the title, but I can honestly say I am really disappointed because he hasn't earned it. If all it takes is winning one match at wrestlemania and then leaving for 9 months to be the #1 contender, hell Floyd Mayweather should be pissed because he didn't get his title shot.

I think Rock should get challenged for his spot (Triple H? Lesnar?) and then go to Royal Rumble having somewhat earned it.

I was thinking, what if Cena is champ at RR, Rock wins, and disappears for 2 months. Triple H says he needs to make sure that the belt comes back to WWE to stay, and says he can only trust one man to do it, himself! Rock vs HHH one more time. If HHH wins, he would retire as champ, and there would be a tourney where in the finals: who else Cena and Punk renew their feud and have few more wars before moving on.

(I know that won't happen, but it would be insanity)

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punk will get either one screw up win before he will fall down to masterpolitician cena
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Punk is going over. Cena's promo basically made it obvious.

"You've been the WWE champion for 274 days and all anyone ever remembers about you is the night you blew a kiss to Vince Mcmahon and left town. "

"But there's one moment, one match that can define the one word you're searching for, night of champions is my hometown. If you walk in Night of champions as the WWE champion against me and somehow leave the WWE champion, well CM Punk that is the moment that will define your existence."

Plus, the plan seems to be Cena/Rock II for mania. Rock/Punk at Rumble, Rock wins the title, Cena wins Rumble the same night and you got your match for WM 29.
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