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Old 09-17-2012, 12:41 AM   #291 (permalink)
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HOPEFULLY CM Punk keeps the title until the Royal Rumble. And I hope they keep shocking us like they did on NOC earlier where they make us think he'll lose it but he still keeps it lol.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:41 AM   #292 (permalink)
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How many finisher did Punk kick out of last year in MITB? The time where he shone and looked more dominant

Its obviously a valid comparison. Think about it, Punk looked superhuman in Chicago, Cena looked the same in Boston.
He didn't look superhuman or more dominant than Cena in Chicago, he couldn't even get a clean win.

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Hence the symmetry. Difference is Punk won in Chicago, and here they came off as equals.
They didn't come off as equals, though. Not in the least. Cena beat Punk, but Punk didn't beat Cena, Cena beat himself.

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Everyone calling for interference or gay shit like that is missing the fact that for the first time ever, there is a man CENA cannot beat. Punk so far has two wins in singles, one triple threat, and a draw. Cena has nothing. And hes done it All CLEAN.
Cena did beat him, though, and Punk has never beaten Cena clean, and he never will.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:44 AM   #293 (permalink)
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I don't know what some people are complaining about. I absolutely LOVED that finished. I think the WWE knows most people hate Cena and most people love Punk. So this was a big F U to all of us Cena haters to put us in check. I mean obviously the finish had to happen the way it did to look like both mens shoulders were down.

I was so happy when they reversed it.

Only thing that sucks is now we're going to get a tired disalog of Punk saying

"Do you Respect me now?"

Cena: "I told you if you beat me at NOC in my home town I'd respect you, but you didn't, it was a tie!"

Therefore, Cena vs Punk at Hell In A Cell

HOWEVER.... there six weeks between now and Hell In A Cell that is going to be a LONG ass time to drag out a rematch. So perhaps a rematch happens within the next 3 weeks? Perhaps Punk loses then and they fight at Hell In A Cell and Survivor Series before the feud finally ends.

I see it ending with Cena winning the title, dropping it to Rock at RR and then regaining it from Rock at WM.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:45 AM   #294 (permalink)
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Too many finishers that should have ended the match and a horrible ending completely ruined the match. No way in hell Punk comes out looking strong or "equal" as Cena by retaining the title in a draw, based on the stupidity of his opponent.

No matter what spin you put on it, Punk has came out of both Summerslam and NOC as "lucky", not strong.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:48 AM   #295 (permalink)
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He didn't look superhuman or more dominant than Cena in Chicago, he couldn't even get a clean win.
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They didn't come off as equals, though. Not in the least. Cena beat Punk, but Punk didn't beat Cena, Cena beat himself.
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Cena did beat him, though, and Punk has never beaten Cena clean, and he never will.
Cena beat himself pretty much tonight. But I'd say Punk's win at MITB was clean, yeah Cena was distracted a bit but was unhurt and looking in the right direction when he slid in the ring into the GTS.

Overall in their feud I still think Punk has the upper hand, but the clock has started it's countdown. The reign is coming to an end soon.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:48 AM   #296 (permalink)
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When has Edge ever looked "strong" against Cena?
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:49 AM   #297 (permalink)
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Too many finishers that should have ended the match and a horrible ending completely ruined the match. No way in hell Punk comes out looking strong or "equal" as Cena by retaining the title in a draw, based on the stupidity of his opponent.

No matter what spin you put on it, Punk has came out of both Summerslam and NOC as "lucky", not strong.
Summerslam was actually good... he outsmarted Cena and won in legitimately. This was just Cena being an idiot though... I mean, really. Have Punk roll his shoulder to knick the win and it would have been fine. He comes off as a wily smart heel at the very least. This way... no one was built up at all. Cena looks like an idiot and Punk got pinned cleanly from a shitty looking suplex....
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:49 AM   #298 (permalink)
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I like that we will have another encounter at the next PPV and with Punk retaining again. At the next PPV Punk will probably cheat to win, but hey that is the only way to beat Cena.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:51 AM   #299 (permalink)
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Cena beat himself pretty much tonight. But I'd say Punk's win at MITB was clean, yeah Cena was distracted a bit but was unhurt and looking in the right direction when he slid in the ring into the GTS.

Overall in their feud I still think Punk has the upper hand, but the clock has started it's countdown. The reign is coming to an end soon.
Clean win should be a full back and forth match with a finisher to win. No interferences or anything. That is just how I define a clean win. Punk hasn't beaten Cena clean.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:54 AM   #300 (permalink)
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Really thought Cena would win this PPV. In HIAC now I see outside influence getting involved since there wasn't in this one with Punk retaining (ugh just ends this reign already)
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