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Old 02-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #9141 (permalink)
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Rock doesnt get gassed
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #9142 (permalink)
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Because it's the truth. The Rock can work out all he wants to be in a movie shape, but when he's in the ring he shouldn't be breathing heavy and laying around. I watched matches with him before, and he was quick and fluid in his maneuvers. The match at the Rumble wasn't even good because of how obviously gassed and out of breath he was. It was a total bust and could have been so much more had The Rock got into ring shape.

Sure, he can look strong all he wants, when it comes down to it its going to ruin the fans enjoyment of the match. And hell, he's had about what, 3 matches already? I understand he hasn't been wrestling in a long time, but you would think he would at least try to work on his cardio so it's not another disaster like the Rumble match.
It's the bulk I think that's hindering him. Rock has always been a great seller and you can see some of that in his matches with Cena and Punk but you can definitely notice his conditioning and cardio isn't on the same level in the ring. It's somewhat understandable since he is older, has suffered injures, and really hasn't wrestled much but I don't think any fan wants to notice that he is breathing heavily because that can affect the pacing of the match, I agree. I personally think Rock should work more on cardio and continue to train for matches because he's obviously not about to take on a full-time wrestling schedule to get into top ring shape and he will not cut that much muscle because it's his look for the films.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:46 PM   #9143 (permalink)
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Punk burning Rawk! The feud is red-hot now.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:48 PM   #9144 (permalink)
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I guess it's true then. Rocky really was gassed. Punk with DAT TRUTH.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:55 PM   #9145 (permalink)
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It's the bulk I think that's hindering him. Rock has always been a great seller and you can see some of that in his matches with Cena and Punk but you can definitely notice his conditioning and cardio isn't on the same level in the ring. It's somewhat understandable since he is older, has suffered injures, and really hasn't wrestled much but I don't think any fan wants to notice that he is breathing heavily because that can affect the pacing of the match, I agree. I personally think Rock should work more on cardio and continue to train for matches because he's obviously not about to take on a full-time wrestling schedule to get into top ring shape and he will not cut that much muscle because it's his look for the films.
I know it's understandable, and I agree. I'm just saying that if he knows he'll be working more matches, you would think he would at least work on his cardio more instead of bulking up for his movies. When he's noticeably gassed and laying around it takes away from the match IMO. If definitely did for the match at Rumble.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:58 PM   #9146 (permalink)
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Ofcourse Rock is not in a wrestling shape and I dont blame him, his bulky look is important for his movie career. Its understandable if he cant work on his cardio/stamina due to his hectic schedule. I am just thankful we are seeing The Rock in the ring at all.
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Definitely agree with you itssoeasy23. Remember when HHH came back in 2002 all jacked up after that injury and it took effect on his performances and he even suffered more injures sporadically during that initial return run. Getting in wrestling shape at easy. You have your guys that are built for show then there's the workhorses out there built to go.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:06 PM   #9148 (permalink)
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Rock is not 2002 ring shape(Punk himself is not close to Rock's shape at his peak as a worker), that's obvious and understandable because he's a decade older and not wrestling full time. It still doesn't affect his matches either way, especially the Punk match because of the background with the Shield attack. Both matches have been great, got great reviews from every type of fanbase and people enjoyed them which is what's really important. Take it in perspective, Rock put on over 50 minutes of work in two matches after over a decade, that's ridiculous. Breathing heavily was always part of Rock's selling BTW, especially if it's on the ribs.

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Old 02-17-2013, 05:08 PM   #9149 (permalink)
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Definitely agree with you itssoeasy23. Remember when HHH came back in 2002 all jacked up after that injury and it took effect on his performances and he even suffered more injures sporadically during that initial return run. Getting in wrestling shape at easy. You have your guys that are built for show then there's the workhorses out there built to go.
I just hope that Rock is able to work a better match tonight than he had at the Royal Rumble. Because if he' laying around again and is noticeably out of breath, it takes away from the match. Sure, it's cool to see him wrestling and all, but I just wish he was in much better in ring shape.

I do though think it's because he hasn't worked a lot of matches the course of the last decade. Mixed with his size and schedule, I think it does hinder his in-ring work. Sure, he may be big, but Cena is about the same size and he hardly breaks a sweat after a 25 minute match. I think's it's a combination of things; size, schedule, and obvious ring rust.
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Rock is not 2002 ring shape(Punk himself is not close to Rock's shape at his peak as a worker), that's obvious and understandable because he's a decade older and not wrestling full time. It still doesn't affect his matches either way, especially the Punk match because of the background with the Shield attack. Both matches have been great, got great reviews from every type of fanbase and people enjoyed them which is what's really important. Take it in perspective, Rock put on over 50 minutes of work in two matches after over a decade, that's ridiculous. Breathing heavily was always part of Rock's selling BTW, especially if it's on the ribs.
I understand your a big Rock mark. And you may not think his size hinders his in-ring work. But I think it does. And IMO, it took away from the Punk/Rock match at RR. It wasn't just the heavy breathy, he was obviously slower and less fluid than before. It's obvious it's because of his size and lack of wrestling over the last decade, but it's noticeable and that's the problem.
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