Re: Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
Like he said in the emotional, passionate promo he cut before the match when the time will come all of them will beat Punk which is why it was the right finish to end it with the move that personified the fun and Rock's connection with the audience more than anything else, The People's Elbow.
Very good observation on the storytelling of the feud tied into the finish. I hadn't thought about it. It was The Rock and in a way "The People" that finally defeated CM Punk. I will certainty be re-watching this match tomorrow.
Re: Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
What a magical moment it was. I honestly said that Rock beating Cena with the PE/Rock Bottom spot was so rare and perfect that nothing can touch it and I say it even now, but Rock holding that title again meant so much more than I thought it would mean to me. The memories, the moments, the pose, it was one big, awesome presentation. The match was great, Rock's ribs selling throughout the match was unbelievable, some nice exchanges like the Sharpshooter to the Vice to the roll up. Great near falls like the Rock Bottom and the elbow drop along with great reaction from the crowd as expected. Punk got his chants but it was 80%+ pro-Rock and the final victory pop was awesome. The ending after the Shield BS was a perfect symbolic finish with Rock doing exactly what he promised and as one with the people ending the 430 days of misery. Like he said in his the emotional, passionate promo he cut before the match(The part about his mother especially was strong and you could see it in his facial expression. That promo came right from his heart), when the time will come all of them will beat Punk which is why it was the right finish to end it with the move that personified the fun and Rock's connection with the audience more than anything else, The People's Elbow. It was not as good as the Rock/Cena match IMO but it was a great, physical match with awesome investment and moment - ****1/4.
The Shield spot was completely pointless but everything else was too strong to ruin something. Iconic moment and the reason I'm still watching and following this industry. For classic moments like this with genuine emotion around it. Rock/Cena 2 at WM29 looks like it's already been confirmed but I still say what I said before and that's the possibility of the EC match with Heyman bringing back Lesnar to stop Rock, costing him the title and setting up Rock/Brock for the WM29 main event. For now I don't really care. Only one more thing to say:
9:15
I feel really sorry for you wasting all this time to write up quite possibly the most ignorant post I've read on here tonight. The fact that you even acknowledge the predictability of the WWE is a shame to me, since I'd assume part of the intrigue in watching wrestling is that you don't know who is going to win. The fact that you refer to the 434 day reign as "misery" is quite disheartening to me, considering you seem to consider yourself a true wrestling fan that enjoys the big moments this business has. Moments like 6/27/11.... Or MITB 2011. Those were moments, possibly the only actual moments we will be able to look back on in this era and say "Wow, that was really something great that happened there, and we may not have realized at the time how great of a moment it actually was. " But to say that The Rock winning tonight was a "great moment" is a far cry from reality. As soon as The Shield (lets assume it was them) interfered, I stopped watching. I knew that The Rock had the title in the bag. Not that the match was that great to begin with but I was expecting a huge trade at the end, lots of near falls and an eventual winner. How many near falls did we have tonight? I think there was a grand total of 1 two count. Just one. The Rock, despite being "injured" and being a "great seller" was kicking out at 1 so fast you'd have to question whether he was wrestling or in a pillow fight. So now, for two years in a row we are forced to watch a guy that is WAY, WAY past his prime getting the top spot in the biggest match of the year. Two years of every bodies hard work is washed away so Cena and Rock can have the show to themselves. How many years is this going to continue on for? Rock/Cena 3, the rubber match? And then what, Cena moves on to a schedule like The Rock is currently on and he just comes to in bury people and not advance this company into a new era. We have all these guys on the roster, and I know for a fact Vince isn't going to be able to give them all the pushes/time they deserve and will be buryed and released like the rest of them or just turned into jobbers. It's a sad wrestling world we live in, and to reiterate my point, this wasn't a "moment of greatness", this was another defining moment in the downfall of the wrestling industry.
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" I am the best WRESTLER in the world. I've been the best ever since day one when I walked into this company and I've been vilified and hated since that day because Paul Heyman saw something in me that nobody else wanted to admit. That's right I'm a Paul Heyman guy. You know who else was a Paul Heyman guy? Brock Lesnar. "
- 6/27/2011
434 days. The greatest reign in the history of professional wrestling. Nobody will forget it.
Did Vince make the right decision regarding CM Punk vs Rock?
WTF.
Vince/Rock just BURIED CM Punk and John Cena in a span of 1 year.
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Stone Cold on CM Punk's epic promo-CMPunk just melted my 52 inch TV with a scorching hot
promo...delivery, content, and attitude...one of
the best promos I've ever seen.
Hulk Hogan on CM Punk-I think CM PUNK has stepped up and proved he can hold his own with anybody in the ring and anybody on the mic,he's on a roll. HH
My favourite wrestlers:
1.Stone Cold Steve Austin
2.HHH
3.CM Punk
4.Brock Lesnar
5.The Rock
Re: Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by JoeFlacco05
I feel really sorry for you wasting all this time to write up quite possibly the most ignorant post I've read on here tonight. The fact that you even acknowledge the predictability of the WWE is a shame to me, since I'd assume part of the intrigue in watching wrestling is that you don't know who is going to win. The fact that you refer to the 434 day reign as "misery" is quite disheartening to me, considering you seem to consider yourself a true wrestling fan that enjoys the big moments this business has. Moments like 6/27/11.... Or MITB 2011. Those were moments, possibly the only actual moments we will be able to look back on in this era and say "Wow, that was really something great that happened there, and we may not have realized at the time how great of a moment it actually was. " But to say that The Rock winning tonight was a "great moment" is a far cry from reality. As soon as The Shield (lets assume it was them) interfered, I stopped watching. I knew that The Rock had the title in the bag. Not that the match was that great to begin with but I was expecting a huge trade at the end, lots of near falls and an eventual winner. How many near falls did we have tonight? I think there was a grand total of 1 two count. Just one. The Rock, despite being "injured" and being a "great seller" was kicking out at 1 so fast you'd have to question whether he was wrestling or in a pillow fight. So now, for two years in a row we are forced to watch a guy that is WAY, WAY past his prime getting the top spot in the biggest match of the year. Two years of every bodies hard work is washed away so Cena and Rock can have the show to themselves. How many years is this going to continue on for? Rock/Cena 3, the rubber match? And then what, Cena moves on to a schedule like The Rock is currently on and he just comes to in bury people and not advance this company into a new era. We have all these guys on the roster, and I know for a fact Vince isn't going to be able to give them all the pushes/time they deserve and will be buryed and released like the rest of them or just turned into jobbers. It's a sad wrestling world we live in, and to reiterate my point, this wasn't a "moment of greatness", this was another defining moment in the downfall of the wrestling industry.
Re: Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by JoeFlacco05
I feel really sorry for you wasting all this time to write up quite possibly the most ignorant post I've read on here tonight. The fact that you even acknowledge the predictability of the WWE is a shame to me, since I'd assume part of the intrigue in watching wrestling is that you don't know who is going to win. The fact that you refer to the 434 day reign as "misery" is quite disheartening to me, considering you seem to consider yourself a true wrestling fan that enjoys the big moments this business has. Moments like 6/27/11.... Or MITB 2011. Those were moments, possibly the only actual moments we will be able to look back on in this era and say "Wow, that was really something great that happened there, and we may not have realized at the time how great of a moment it actually was. " But to say that The Rock winning tonight was a "great moment" is a far cry from reality. As soon as The Shield (lets assume it was them) interfered, I stopped watching. I knew that The Rock had the title in the bag. Not that the match was that great to begin with but I was expecting a huge trade at the end, lots of near falls and an eventual winner. How many near falls did we have tonight? I think there was a grand total of 1 two count. Just one. The Rock, despite being "injured" and being a "great seller" was kicking out at 1 so fast you'd have to question whether he was wrestling or in a pillow fight. So now, for two years in a row we are forced to watch a guy that is WAY, WAY past his prime getting the top spot in the biggest match of the year. Two years of every bodies hard work is washed away so Cena and Rock can have the show to themselves. How many years is this going to continue on for? Rock/Cena 3, the rubber match? And then what, Cena moves on to a schedule like The Rock is currently on and he just comes to in bury people and not advance this company into a new era. We have all these guys on the roster, and I know for a fact Vince isn't going to be able to give them all the pushes/time they deserve and will be buryed and released like the rest of them or just turned into jobbers. It's a sad wrestling world we live in, and to reiterate my point, this wasn't a "moment of greatness", this was another defining moment in the downfall of the wrestling industry.
Great post. You're better off talking to a wall though.
Rock does no wrong in his eyes, i usually just skip his posts now once i see his username.
Re: Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread
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Originally Posted by The Hardcore Show
Thing that sold that PPV was that Cena/Rock was a dream match a year in making never done before Cena might win Rock has a punchers chance etc that is what sold that match. You would be foolish to think another 1.1 or 1.2 million people are going to buy Wrestlemania just to see Cena beat The Rock and put Cena over as if he is as big as The Rock is his prime Hulk Hogan or Stone Cold Steve Austin.
You'd be foolish to think any other scenario would generate a figure resembling last year's success. You don't have to like Cena, I happen to think he's awful, but he's still the guy and the rematch surpasses the myriad of other possibilities if booked correctly. Rock going over brings more mainstream outlets to the dance, and that's the whole point.