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Old 01-24-2013, 05:06 PM   #7591 (permalink)
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How did Punk do that? By killing the ratings for Raw? Ending Ryback's momentum? Masterminding the most lackluster heel turn in the history of Raw?
You should get smarter before speaking again, like really.

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Old 01-24-2013, 05:09 PM   #7592 (permalink)
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The Rock Vs Zack Ryder would not draw the same as The Rock Vs CM Punk




1. GTS to The Rock on RAW 1000 lacklustre?
2. One guy alone brings down the ratings?
3. Ryback has been squashing jobbers who where not on the the roster. + WWE is scripted and it isn't Punks choice who he faces. More fool Vince for making CM Punk Vs CM Punk by your logic. + You dont need to win a feud to get put over. The sheer fact that Rybacks first major feud was against the second most popular full time guy and the long term WWE champion is a massive rub.
The point is that Punk didn't lay no groundwork. He hurt the product for 15 months. First by being a crappy face "best in the world", then being a crappy heel "I demand respect". In this grand ground work Punk also killed WWE's hottest break out star in years.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:10 PM   #7593 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do people realise Punk has done all the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

Punk does deserve credit, but it's not just Punk.

Both have done great, both deserve credit. But I agree though- Rock, or anyone for that matter, can't draw soley by themself.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:13 PM   #7594 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do people realise Punk has done all the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

Think about it. CM Punk had 6 months to prepare for this rivalry and these promos. The best he could come with was a crappy promo about "I beat the system" and "Rock you're kids stuff". Really? That's all you got after 6 months? Really? Really?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:17 PM   #7595 (permalink)
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Think about it. CM Punk had 6 months to prepare for this rivalry and these promos. The best he could come with was a crappy promo about "I beat the system" and "Rock you're kids stuff". Really? That's all you got after 6 months? Really? Really?
The Rock had the same amount of time and the best he came up with was Cookiepuss and Twinkie Tits
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:19 PM   #7596 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do people realise Punk has done a lot the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

Oh, do excuse me, I seemed to have overlooked that.

"Wow that Punk sure is great doing so much ground work for his feud against Rock that's really commendable" etc,
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The Rock had the same amount of time and the best he came up with was Cookiepuss and Twinkie Tits
I'm not saying Rock has been great but look at the ratings for one and Cookiepuss is probably Raw's biggest viral moment in years.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:23 PM   #7598 (permalink)
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Default Re: Do people realise Punk has done all the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

CM Punk job for the last 6 months has been to get under as many peoples skins as possible and slowly turn heel. It was a near impossible and difficult thing to do because he was so popular. And he has done it so well that he is arguably one of the best heels of all time. If they turn him face again them fans will be cheering him again a week later.

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The point is that Punk didn't lay no groundwork. He hurt the product for 15 months. First by being a crappy face "best in the world", then being a crappy heel "I demand respect". In this grand ground work Punk also killed WWE's hottest break out star in years.
Can you not read or do your rose tinted glasses block out the truth.

1. He hurt the product. OK, thats your opinion your entitled to it and whether your categorically wrong is irrelevant because its your opinion.

He is possibly one of the main things keeping WWEs heads above water for the last 15 months.

2. Vince decides who Ryback faces and loses to not Punk.
Rybacks first major feud was against CM Punk, at the time 300+ Champion, Longest Champion in 25 year. In the main event. CM Punk who has beaten Mark Henry, John Cena, Del Rio, The Miz, Chris Jericho, Big Show, Daniel Bryan to get to this point.

The fact that Rybacks first major feud was in all of these circumstances is a major achievement and massive rub.

Im not comparing CM Punk to HHH or The Undertaker but CM Punk lost to them both but it didnt damage him it benefited and made him look strong that he could hang with these guys.


Wrestling is scripted look at Tensai and Khali and how big they are. If Vince decides he doesn't like Ryback he could easily be booked the same way as them.
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I'm not saying Rock has been great but look at the ratings for one and Cookiepuss is probably Raw's biggest viral moment in years.
You simply cannot put the blame on one man for the poor ratings of a 3 hour show when he is usually onscreen for no more than 30mins an episode, it is illogical thinking, especially when you consider that the rest of the show is filled with childish nonsense.

The Rock could have made up a word on the spot and it would have been chanted because he is The Rock, Cookiepuss was a lazy effort and is just Fruity Pebbles all over again.

Edit: if you meant look at the ratings after The Rock returned, of course he was gonna raise them, but he hasn't raised them by much.
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Default Re: Do people realise Punk has done a lot the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

Punk hasn't contributed a lick. All of it is down to The Rock's name and massive star power. He could have anybody who has been built to be somewhat credible as opponent and the buyrates would be the same. And when I talk about credibility, I mean that obviously Rock vs Punk will sell more than Rock vs Ryder but that's all to do with the fact one has actually been booked to get people caring whereas the other is a jobbing geek.
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