[The Hardcore Show]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

You tell me what's a better way to regain the title? A victory over the Rock at Wrestlemania? A victory over Miz and Punk at Backlash?

John Cena is the face the company. Just accept it. He's the guy who should be getting the biggest moments.

He should. But both he & WWE has done a bad job of making the fans give a shit about these moments.

[GillbergReturns]

Originally Posted by DwayneAustin

Cena beating The Rock at Wrestlemania doesn't even make sense to me from a business point of view, the buyrate WILL fall, even with The Rock there. Last year, the return of old Rock fans who had given up watching wrestling and casuals influenced the buyrate, no doubt. They got the chance to see their hero on the greatest stage of all again, with the slim chance that he would win. This time, if it is Cena v Rock 2, there is little chance those same casual fans are gonna buy Mania again when they know, 100% this time that Cena will win it, this is all IMO, of course.

In theory that's why Brock Lesnar is there as well.

I'm not as negative on the card as most of you guys are. I think people are sleeping on Brock v Triple H 2 especially if Mayweather is indeed involved.

Punk Taker could steal the show too. Could be the present took over.

[The Hardcore Show]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

In theory that's why Brock Lesnar is there as well.

I'm not as negative on the card as most of you guys are. I think people are sleeping on Brock v Triple H 2 especially if Mayweather is indeed involved.

Punk Taker could steal the show too. Could be the present took over.

Only way Triple H & Lesnar could top their Summerslam match is if it's something like Last Man Standing and I do think Punk/Undertaker would be the best match on the card.

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Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

Punk Taker could steal the show too. Could be the present took over.

Agreed, I don't agree with this match, but it will likely be MOTN, like Undertakers matches have been for the last 6 years.

[RaneGaming]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

You tell me what's a better way to regain the title? A victory over the Rock at Wrestlemania? A victory over Miz and Punk at Backlash?

John Cena is the face the company. Just accept it. He's the guy who should be getting the biggest moments.

The Baby Face Should always be chasing the title then win it. Then loss it 2/3 months later then chase it again

remember the rock chasing the title though half 1999 all the way to backlash 2000
he doesn't need to win at WM he's already there star of the company he should be feuding with the young talent and putting them over like No Mercy 2001 Kurt winning the title then rock chasing for the title untill no way out 2002

Think of this
Cm punk beats the rock at WM (Does this help punk more than if john cena was to beat the rock at WM)

[GillbergReturns]

Originally Posted by The Hardcore Show

Only way Triple H & Lesnar could top their Summerslam match is if it's something like Last Man Standing and I do think Punk/Undertaker would be the best match on the card.

I think they left alot on the table at Summerslam knowing they were working towards Wrestlemania. I'm actually looking forward to how this plays out.

I do think it gets personal and it ends up a unsanctioned match or street fight.

Punk Taker will be great no matter how it's booked. Wouldn't be shocked if Punk won too.

[DwayneAustin]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

In theory that's why Brock Lesnar is there as well.

I'm not as negative on the card as most of you guys are. I think people are sleeping on Brock v Triple H 2 especially if Mayweather is indeed involved.

Punk Taker could steal the show too. Could be the present took over.

Good point. Forgot all about the Lesnar factor.

[RaneGaming]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

I think they left alot on the table at Summerslam knowing they were working towards Wrestlemania. I'm actually looking forward to how this plays out.

I do think it gets personal and it ends up a unsanctioned match or street fight.

Punk Taker will be great no matter how it's booked. Wouldn't be shocked if Punk won too.

no chance in hell punk will beat taker at WM the ONLY person i can see beating taker would be Cena

i myself would like 2 things to happen
1.he retires with the streak
2.Kane ends it next night on raw is Undertaker's retirement

[CHIcagoMade]

Brock/HHH should've been a LMS match at SS in the first place, it doesn't get more personal than having Brock break HHH's arm & his best friends arm.

I think that's what really made their match kinda disappointing in the first place.

But anyways I'm interested in seeing how they close the week out with Rock/Punk.

[GillbergReturns]

Originally Posted by RaneGaming

The Baby Face Should always be chasing the title then win it. Then loss it 2/3 months later then chase it again

remember the rock chasing the title though half 1999 all the way to backlash 2000
he doesn't need to win at WM he's already there star of the company he should be feuding with the young talent and putting them over like No Mercy 2001 Kurt winning the title then rock chasing for the title untill no way out 2002

Think of this
Cm punk beats the rock at WM (Does this help punk more than if john cena was to beat the rock at WM)

I disagree on just about everything.

Sometimes it's better for the babyface to chase, but Punk's had a 400 plus day reign. I think it would be much more entertaining to see how he reacts to losing his belt. Rock chasing the belt looks like what we're seeing right now. Nothing new. Not that it's bad but sometimes you do have to change the environment and we're at that moment.

Rock's not being brought back to establish Dolph Ziggler. That's just dumb and a waste of his time. He's being brought back to establish John Cena as an iconic figure because we can't rely on any Attitude era star for much longer. Like it or not that's why they brought him in.

Yes I do think John Cena gets more out of victory than Punk would. John Cena is the face the company and has the best chance of being remembered as an icon. The rest of the company will go thru John Cena like they're suppose to.