[AthenaMark]

It's all good to me...I wont' be going to Mania to see Cena being put over. The celebration last year in Miami was beautiful though and the next night? Just as good with what happened all night with Daniel Bryan and Cena leaving the ring to "Fuck You Cena" chants like a straight up bitch made chump. Dude looked like he wanted to cry heading up that ramp. It was poetic justice. "Fuck You Cena" to their PG leader and "Thank You Rock" to a true icon. Can't get any better than that.

Well...except with NY and the fans from all the countries around the world load that ring up with trash. Got friends going...gonna need them to record that in HD for me.

[pUnK bRooKs]

THE ROCK WINS WE RIOT.

[AthenaMark]

Kayfabe or work, that is still impressive.

How? Only Cena got close to 400 days? Who gives a fuck. Was that really good? Did you enjoy that? It made 2007 unbearable. It was horrible. They ONCE AGAIN had to run to another top name to bail them out and that was Donald Trump, who was getting big ratings on television, and Stone Cold to hype up that year's Mania since nobody gave TWO FUCKS about Shawn Michaels vs Cena. Once again...Cena wasn't treated like the biggest thing at the show. Hell, the fans were more amped up for Taker vs Batista. And BTW...Taker's streak is bigger than a 400 day reign to the fans. That's what pisses the fans off when it's rumored to be broken. It never fails. It gets instant heat just like Vickie Guerrero. If they had any balls, it would be Taker vs Brock or Taker vs Cena with Rock vs Brock in the top spot. That would make this an AUTOMATIC nominee for one of the best Manias in awhile instead of settling. What's gonna happen to Punk? Make it a Triple Threat or put him against Taker and nobody buying it at all? LMAO.

[Tyrion Lannister]

And if the dirtsheets are true about Punk facing Undertaker for the streak then that just shows that WWE have strong plans for Punk this year.

No it doesn't. That match is actually pretty insulting to Punk, he should be in the main event after the run he's had.

The "strong plan" is that he'll get the title back later in the year for like 2 months so that Ryback can squash him.

[BlakeGriffinFan32]

Originally Posted by AthenaMark

How? Only Cena got close to 400 days? Who gives a fuck. Was that really good? Did you enjoy that? It made 2007 unbearable. It was horrible. They ONCE AGAIN had to run to another top name to bail them out and that was Donald Trump, who was getting big ratings on television, and Stone Cold to hype up that year's Mania since nobody gave TWO FUCKS about Shawn Michaels vs Cena. Once again...Cena wasn't treated like the biggest thing at the show. Hell, the fans were more amped up for Taker vs Batista. And BTW...Taker's streak is bigger than a 400 day reign to the fans. That's what pisses the fans off when it's rumored to be broken. It never fails. It gets instant heat just like Vickie Guerrero. If they had any balls, it would be Taker vs Brock or Taker vs Cena with Rock vs Brock in the top spot. That would make this an AUTOMATIC nominee for one of the best Manias in awhile instead of settling. What's gonna happen to Punk? Make it a Triple Threat or put him against Taker and nobody buying it at all? LMAO.

I did not enjoy it. I got tired of Cena during 2007 myself. But Punk's reign has been better than Cena's has. He has cut great promos, put on terrific matches, his character his evolved. He has managed to stay interesting.

That's up for debate for what is bigger between Undertaker's streak and a 400 day reign. Both of them are pretty big, if you ask me. For a great deal of fans, it's the first 400 day reign they are seeing in their life.

I don't know about nobody buying CM Punk facing the Undertaker at Wrestlemania or him main eventing Wrestlemania. I think it will do a good buy rate with him in one of the big matches. I don't think Punk being in a main event match is going to convince people not to buy the show.

The Rock has put over CM Punk in a huge way. Now has been the perfect time for him to truly come into form.

Again, not just anybody gets a 400 day title reign, much less in this era where titles change so often.

[The Hardcore Show]

Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister

No it doesn't. That match is actually pretty insulting to Punk, he should be in the main event after the run he's had.

The "strong plan" is that he'll get the title back later in the year for like 2 months so that Ryback can squash him.

Well I think if the plan as far back as a year ago was to have a Rock/Cena rematch then facing Undertaker at Wrestlemania is not a bad consolation prize because weill he isn't really a threat to end the streak that does not mean that they can't have a match that blows Lesnar/Triple H & Rock/Cena out of the water.

[GillbergReturns]

Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister

No it doesn't. That match is actually pretty insulting to Punk, he should be in the main event after the run he's had.

The "strong plan" is that he'll get the title back later in the year for like 2 months so that Ryback can squash him.

That match has a pretty good chance at ending the show even though it won't be for the belt and it's not the Main Event.

We know Cena's winning, he's not turning, and we know he's going to get booed out the building. WWE might put it in a spot to soften the blow.

[The Hardcore Show]

Originally Posted by GillbergReturns

That match has a pretty good chance at ending the show even though it won't be for the belt and it's not the Main Event.

We know Cena's winning, he's not turning, and we know he's going to get booed out the building. WWE might put it in a spot to soften the blow.

I don't think so the only times they had Undertaker main event Wrestlemania the past few years was 2008 with Edge when many though he & Batista got shafted in 2007 and 2010 when Vince saw the mistake of not putting the first match with Shawn Michaels on last in 2009 in favor of Triple H/Randy Orton. I don't see WWE undercutting Rock/Cena when I think they want to sell as the feud of the century for CM Punk/Undertaker. Wrestlemania will end with John Cena beating the Rock with the F-U with JBL, Cole and the King selling Cena's victory as not only the biggest of his career but maybe the biggest win in Wrestlemania history.

[Rock316AE]

Rock/Cena or Rock/Lesnar is main eventing and closing WM. No matter who's going over. Taker didn't close when he was wrestling HHH and Cena/Miz was the main event with Rock standing tall. You're going to get an even worse reaction than Jericho/HHH for Taker/Punk which nobody buys and is one of the most predictable matches of all time. If Cena goes over and they're closing WM with trash thrown to the ring from the biggest gate they have ever done, they can only blame themselves for their stupidity. Taker should have closed the show at WM23 with Batista, that was also the original plan with the focus of the NWO tag match a month earlier all on their match.

[Dexter Morgan]

Originally Posted by AthenaMark

So what. One guy only worked what? One match beforehand in 8 years and had a hectic schedule to accomplish? What was so good about Jericho and Punk? I was there. The match was getting cat called and you hear Jericho chants.....they were lucky they didn't get BORING chants with how everyone around me was bashing the match.

And Cena is not bigger than Undertaker. He never has been and never will be. Rock vs Undertaker or Brock is a bigger match than anything possible at Mania at 29 but they don't want to do it and it's gonna lead to trash being thrown in the ring at Cena at the end of the night. He's gonna get murdered at the Hall of Fame ceremony too. It's gonna be real bad..again

Exactly. But don't tell Cena fans that.