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Old 09-09-2012, 01:55 PM   #641 (permalink)
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Cena would have made it in any era imo. That much passion, dedication and his relentless work ethic alone would have got him far. The fact that he's extremely talented in all other aspects is the sealer.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:05 PM   #642 (permalink)
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Cena would have made it in any era imo. That much passion, dedication and his relentless work ethic alone would have got him far. The fact that he's extremely talented in all other aspects is the sealer.
Well said. Despite all the hate, a guy with Cena's talents is too good to ignore. I stand by my claim that him and Orton are the only guys from the current roster that could have made it in the Attitude Era without feeling out of place. It's also fitting that they joined the roster right after that era was over and Orton was even around before WWF became WWE.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:18 PM   #643 (permalink)
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I don't really buy that tbh. I think the whole work ethic argument when it pertains to Cena is a farce. Yes, Cena makes sure to do plenty of late night shows, make a wish appearances, hospital visits and other demanding activities ,and don't get me wrong he does a great job at them, but does he really work that much harder then anyone else? It just seems like WWE propaganda that has been shoved down our throats as truth through the years. Whose to say someone whose been established in the ME for over 8 years and will be the face of the company until he's done wrestling works any harder than a mid-carder trying to earn a spot?

I will say that Cena's look and talent alone could help him translate into the ME during the Attitude Era. He's an excellent mic-worker that would certainly serve as a Kurt Angle or Mick Foley type in terms of ME status.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:27 PM   #644 (permalink)
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I don't really buy that tbh. I think the whole work ethic argument when it pertains to Cena is a farce. Yes, Cena makes sure to do plenty of late night shows, make a wish appearances, hospital visits and other demanding activities ,and don't get me wrong he does a great job at them, but does he really work that much harder then anyone else? It just seems like WWE propaganda that has been shoved down our throats as truth through the years. Whose to say someone whose been established in the ME for over 8 years and will be the face of the company until he's done wrestling works any harder than a mid-carder trying to earn a spot?

I will say that Cena's look and talent alone could help him translate into the ME. He's an excellent mic-worker that would certainly serve as a Kurt Angle or Mick Foley type in terms of ME status.
Yup,that whole argument is complete bullshit im sure even Rikishi worked harder than him on his time with the WWF,lets see he only works 1 show and house shows from RAW,promos same old crap every week nothing new and they feed him what to say,somehow he is the face of the company but the wwe is in an all time low so no mainstrem attention for him so he has spare time to go to the whole make a wish stuff and the matches he gets beat down to a pulp so he can make his 6 min comeback-win-pose-leave,as for his place at the roster im sure mid card at best...
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:15 PM   #645 (permalink)
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Yup,that whole argument is complete bullshit im sure even Rikishi worked harder than him on his time with the WWF,lets see he only works 1 show and house shows from RAW,promos same old crap every week nothing new and they feed him what to say,somehow he is the face of the company but the wwe is in an all time low so no mainstrem attention for him so he has spare time to go to the whole make a wish stuff and the matches he gets beat down to a pulp so he can make his 6 min comeback-win-pose-leave,as for his place at the roster im sure mid card at best...
I didn't understand a thing you just said. I believe you claim WWE get no mainstream attention, which is really funny considering Rock and Lesnar as well as (to some extent) Cena and Punk are all over the media all year.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:19 PM   #646 (permalink)
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I think Cena would have probably have become a Main Event Heel who could run with it till a chasing Rock/Austin beat him, the only think I could see against him was if his ring work would hold him back
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I think Cena would have probably have become a Main Event Heel who could run with it till a chasing Rock/Austin beat him, the only think I could see against him was if his ring work would hold him back
If Rock or Austin's "ring work" didn't hold them back, then Cena sure as hell would've never had a problem from an in ring standpoint either. Besides "ring work" does not make a great match. The match of the year in WWE so far this year is probably the End of an Era Hell in a Cell match at Wrestlemania, and that sure as hell was not a technical masterpiece.

What year "ring work" become such a big deal among smarks? Because that has never mattered in the WWE. The "WWE style" (if anyone actually gets what I mean when I say that) is based on theatrics. Most main event matches, especially on pay per view is all about Intro, Body, and Conclusion. It's all about "moments" within a match, a hard bump here, a false finish here. It may seem like other companies do that, but they don't. Most companies have nothing more than mindless matches with "Holy shit" moments that WWE is smart enough to use sparingly.

Hell Vince said it best in The Rise and Fall of ECW DVD, when he brought up how most of the matches were pretty much a visual of "let me show you guys how many buckets of blood I can draw", or "look at how many submission holds and suplexes I can do" in the case of guys like Tazz, Malenko, Guerrero etc... That's not exactly what Vince said, but that was the point he was making.

Cena does not need "to increase his work rate, add to the five moves of doom, or let his heel persona shine through" to prove how good he is.
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I honestly felt he was going to bring back the AE belt when he tweeted it a few months but that's doubtful.

Corporate Rock's look from Nov-Dec 98 with the AE belt + his first ever merchandise with the blue bull on the front and layin the smackdown on the back = gold.

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Why hasn't anyone on the internet uploaded the Rock/Cena DVD doc yet?
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:06 AM   #650 (permalink)
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Why hasn't anyone on the internet uploaded the Rock/Cena DVD doc yet?
Let me know if you find something. I'd like to watch it lol.
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