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Old 01-13-2013, 01:39 PM   #6381 (permalink)
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@Sam Knight, to talk directly is not Rock's style, it's cheap and by saying that Rock should talk about how Punk can't draw is basically doing the same thing Punk does which is pandering to the internet fanbase(Which you want Rock to also accuse him of it when he does the exact same thing in the same promo)because the general audience is not checking the ratings for RAW on a weekly basis, let alone the segment breakdowns. Rock is talking to the masses, he's never going for a "AWWW" reaction in a minority or a specific demo. There's no money in it as history shows. Like I said here about this case:

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True, and notice the clever way Rock articulated what he says to keep credibility in him. He said that he claims to be SE but looks like a skinny guy on crack. He said that he pretended like he can change the business but couldn't even sell an ice cream bar. He said how people rejected and didn't care for Punk, not the other way around. All that has a meaning behind it and can be presented differently like saying that Punk looks like a drug addict, couldn't draw an audience and never had any power to change something. But it was a soft version of what he could have said, he will never say that directly because Rock understands what this industry is all about more than anyone else. I will always remember that 2002 interview he did saying how if you make your opponent look like a complete joke, then you just won a pointless match against a joke. But if you build your opponent and put him up there, the moment you beat him would mean something. That's what Rock is doing here, that's what Rock always did and it was perfect.

You also got to look at what the crowd wants to see from Rock and how he was able to put everything the crowd wanted in different ways like using Punk's voiceless character to start a chant or doing the Finally when Punk said that they don't matter. Rock was incredible in every way and this can easily be the go-home segment for the Rumble PPV if it was this Sunday. I also liked how he closed the promo with believable intensity into the Rock Bottom. Smooth and natural, not have to worry about protecting Cena in every word he says, or following some uncomfortable presentation of the WWE machine. Great start, there are two more weeks, one should be Rock/Heyman.
As for the Cena/WM discussion, Cena has a huge fanbase but he's never selling a WM on his own because most of his fanbase aren't the paying audience. Besides his WM with Rock last year, the only WM he main evented, and by main evented I mean as THE main attraction and selling point, was WM22 with HHH and that show dropped big from the year before when Batista main evented and didn't do million buys. That's also the reason Cena's standout category is his merchandise, and to a lesser extent, the family house show audience.

Hope Heyman's tweet is a sign we're going to see Rock/Heyman segment on RAW. Maybe Heyman interrupting Rock after the Concert and then taking the guitar with him

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Old 01-13-2013, 01:42 PM   #6382 (permalink)
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Didn't he type 2nds?And I don't know how that describes Rock's concert.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:50 PM   #6383 (permalink)
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So how do you understand most of Raw?
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:56 PM   #6384 (permalink)
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@Sam Knight, to talk directly is not Rock's style, it's cheap and by saying that Rock should talk about how Punk can't draw is basically doing the same thing Punk does which is pandering to the internet fanbase(Which you want Rock to also accuse him of it when he does the exact same thing in the same promo)because the general audience is not checking the ratings for RAW on a weekly basis, let alone the segment breakdowns. Rock is talking to the masses, he's never going for a "AWWW" reaction in a minority or a specific demo. There's no money in it as history shows. Like I said here about this case:



As for the Cena/WM discussion, Cena has a huge fanbase but he's never selling a WM on his own because most of his fanbase aren't the paying audience. Besides his WM with Rock last year, the only WM he main evented, and by main evented I mean as THE main attraction and selling point, was WM22 with HHH and that show dropped big from the year before when Batista main evented and didn't do million buys. That's also the reason Cena's standout category is his merchandise, and to a lesser extent, the family house show audience.

Hope Heyman's tweet is a sign we're going to see Rock/Heyman segment on RAW. Maybe Heyman interrupting Rock after the Concert and then taking the guitar with him
Yeah dude but only a genius like you understands this.Any average WWE fan would think that Rock has to rely on his catchphrases and sexual jokes.That's the reason why Rock deserves a fair chance to prove that this isn't the case.Also why isn't the WWE allowing the Rock to go full explosive on CM Punk?His time is over,he already had his chance last year,why are they making him look stronger than Rock on mic?Are they going to push him in the spotlight again?They already did that last year and he couldn't do anything except worsen the business.I think WWE should make Rock destroy CM Punk on the mic,make him beat Punk clean and then pass the torch to some other young talent instead who really deserves and has it.
And also if WWE is planning to make Rock a champion,he should be over with the fans.Now I can't see anything but hatred for the Rock among Smarks.To get over with the Smarks,Rock should show his true talent and evolve his gimmick.
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I don't understand most of the jokes that Rock makes until I see the reviews.
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Honestly, I have been a huge Rocky fan since I was 5 years old, I would love him to get the gold and stir things up in the WWE again but with his movie career dedications I cant see the program allowing a WWE champion to walk in and out when they please.

Saying that I made sure to be at the Raw 2013 where the Rock made his return and gave CM Punk 3 rock bottoms and a peoples elbow. Here is a live video i recorded guys hope you enjoy!
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:21 PM   #6387 (permalink)
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Honestly, I have been a huge Rocky fan since I was 5 years old, I would love him to get the gold and stir things up in the WWE again but with his movie career dedications I cant see the program allowing a WWE champion to walk in and out when they please.

Saying that I made sure to be at the Raw 2013 where the Rock made his return and gave CM Punk 3 rock bottoms and a peoples elbow. Here is a live video i recorded guys hope you enjoy!
I cant post URLS yet so just add the rest in yourselfs

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LOL wow people on this site have real short attention spans. I actually watched the promo for a second time and that was a straight up Jericho/Rock type promo. Both of those 2 hit each other hard on the mic. Rock is the people's champ and was straight up defending the people. Punk promised a lot of people change and never changed shit and became a self centered jerk. And Punk hit the Rock with how serious he is about keeping his title, and letting Rock know how dangerous he is, and I found Rock's jokes pretty funny tbh. The first time I watched it, I didn't catch that mirror joke all too well because of the noise in my house and some distractions, but it was delivered nicely.

These 2 REALLY hit it out of the park with that promo and if people can only remember some silly PG chant that successfully became a chant as usual, from that promo, then yep, y'all ain't paying attention.

Rock is back to entertain the people and win that title.
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LOL wow people on this site have real short attention spans. I actually watched the promo for a second time and that was a straight up Jericho/Rock type promo. Both of those 2 hit each other hard on the mic. Rock is the people's champ and was straight up defending the people. Punk promised a lot of people change and never changed shit and became a self centered jerk. And Punk hit the Rock with how serious he is about keeping his title, and letting Rock know how dangerous he is, and I found Rock's jokes pretty funny tbh. The first time I watched it, I didn't catch that mirror joke all too well because of the noise in my house and some distractions, but it was delivered nicely.

These 2 REALLY hit it out of the park with that promo and if people can only remember some silly PG chant that successfully became a chant as usual, from that promo, then yep, y'all ain't paying attention.

Rock is back to entertain the people and win that title.
Haters will always hate...........BTW do any attitude era fans have any idea,was the Rock hated this way when he wrestled in his prime and full time?Did any of the fans moan here on the internet that his shtick was stale and lameass?Did anybody say that he keeps on doing the same things again and again?I don't know I was a kid back then.
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