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Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

With all the hype, success, and documentation of the John Cena vs. The Rock feud I hope WWE does keep it as a true Once In A Lifetime event. I feel its significance would be more special if there was no rematches or continuation of the feud, unless they can do something grander with it. That's where Vince and creative might believe the WWE Championship would take the rivalry to the next level and possibly do bigger business. I have my doubts about that but at the moment it just feels like what would probably be called "The Biggest Re-match in History" has a great chance of happening in New Jersey in 2013.


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Since RAW 1000 it's pretty obvious that they're going to do it and I have no idea why after they already gave the ultimate payoff at WM28. Nobody is paying to see Cena gets his win/"revenge", and Rock is probably winning the belt at Royal Rumble so you don't even have the attraction of Rock winning the title after a decade. This is seriously the most pointless and wasted WM of all time if it happens. They already had a great and memorable match, they already drew record business, already did huge promotion, personal rivalry that people will never forget, big mainstream buzz and even a DVD on their feud, where's the need for a rematch? Instead of doing the huge Rock/Brock main event with Taker/Cena, two fresh matches that fans want to see for years, they're doing the same matches with the most predictable outcome of all time.

Taker/Brock is fresh and interesting but when Rock/Cena is also on the card, it's the most predictable double main event of all time. But not even that, they want to do Lesnar/HHH 2, only god knows why, don't get me wrong, I loved the match but nothing about this was blockbuster, not the match, not the crowd investment, not the business and not the program. In fact, the response for the storyline was negative and they did the HHH promo so the crowd will give him the "retirement sympathy" cheers in another retirement segment that nobody buys. The only thing that can save it is Rock forcing Vince to do Rock/Lesnar after all. It's WM in the New York market, which means record breaking potential in every aspect, but for some reason they want to ruin it.

If it wasn't a ridiculous company like WWE you would think that they're trying to sabotage what can be their biggest money show of all time.

What they want:
Rock/Cena 2(People already got what they want)
Lesnar/HHH 2(Nobody cares period)

What needs to happen:
Rock/Brock(Awesome interaction with the potential to be the biggest money match of all time)
Taker/Cena(Streak match that people want to see for years)

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Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

The Rock
- The biggest superstar in this indusy ever[outside of the wwe]
- The greatest superstar of all-time along with Hogan/Austin
- The most charismatic superstar of all-time
- The most entertaining superstar of all-time
- The Richest wrestler of all-time
- Has Best Mic-skill in wwe history.

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If it wasn't a ridiculous company like WWE you would think that they're trying to sabotage what can be their biggest money show of all time.

What they want:
Rock/Cena 2(People already got what they want)
Lesnar/HHH 2(Nobody cares period)

What needs to happen:
Rock/Brock(Awesome interaction with the potential to be the biggest money match of all time)
Taker/Cena(Streak match that people want to see for years)
Great post overall but I want to comment on this part. I guess it is their way of continuing the stories of the previous year. One is the big Rock/Cena rematch and the other is shifting the End of an Era + HHH/Brock feud to Taker/Brock. I agree with the two matches you listed are bigger attractions than the most likely scenario.

If I could have it my way WM29 is headlined by:

Rock v. Brock WWE Title with Mayweather as special enforcer
Cena v. Taker
HHH v. Punk
Orton v. Sheamus World Title
Mysterio v. Sin Cara

That's a big money and attractive card, plus Sheamus gets a big match for SD which I'm sure they want him in next year.


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Great post overall but I want to comment on this part. I guess it is their way of continuing the stories of the previous year. One is the big Rock/Cena rematch and the other is shifting the End of an Era + HHH/Brock feud to Taker/Brock. I agree with the two matches you listed are bigger attractions than the most likely scenario.

If I could have it my way WM29 is headlined by:

Rock v. Brock WWE Title with Mayweather as special enforcer
Cena v. Taker
HHH v. Punk
Orton v. Sheamus World Title
Mysterio v. Sin Cara

That's a big money and attractive card, plus Sheamus gets a big match for SD which I'm sure they want him in next year.


Excellent as always mate, why is it that a wrestling follower/fan can spot the HUGE potential and common sense in this but Vincey et all cannot?

I know hop badly they want Rock/Cena 2 rematch to give Cena his win back, but IMHo it doesn't really matter, Brock need to be utilized correctly now in case he doesn't wan to extend his deal , as does 'Taker for the reason of how many more Mania'a does he really want/can do,

The card you posted is perfect IMO, but i see it as being Rock/Cena and probably Brock/Taker (im just not that convinced on this one atm tbh)

If they really want Brock/HHH 2, use it at SS...
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Great post overall but I want to comment on this part. I guess it is their way of continuing the stories of the previous year. One is the big Rock/Cena rematch and the other is shifting the End of an Era + HHH/Brock feud to Taker/Brock. I agree with the two matches you listed are bigger attractions than the most likely scenario.

If I could have it my way WM29 is headlined by:

Rock v. Brock WWE Title with Mayweather as special enforcer
Cena v. Taker
HHH v. Punk
Orton v. Sheamus World Title
Mysterio v. Sin Cara

That's a big money and attractive card, plus Sheamus gets a big match for SD which I'm sure they want him in next year.
I can see why they want it in terms of continuity and why they might think it's the right thing to do but in this situation, they can't possibly think that their card is the best way to maximize all the star power they have. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit with that statement. They got the fresh matches in front of them without even trying. Especially that if they do the two Top matches they want, it's probably the most predictable Top of the card for any big event in history. I would love to hear Vince's argument on why HE thinks this card is better in any possible way.

The Rock, Brock Lesnar and Floyd Mayweather all in the same program You can always bet on this company to ruin the most simple thing and the overall excitement for the show.

If Floyd is wrestling. Rock/Taker and Lesnar with Heyman vs Mayweather with HHH is the biggest card of all time. Not that I expect it to happen, they already know what they're doing, Rock/Cena/ and Lesnar/HHH and as always, it's the worst options.
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Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Why is everybody taking HHH/Lesnar as a lock? It's far from a lock. Just because somebody posted it on the internet doesn't make it certain. I for one would be very surprised if it happens. It leaves Taker without an opponent and that simply isn't going to happen. All this whining will be over nothing as usual. Rock/Cena on the other hand, that's the match to be worried about.

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I am certain HHH VS Lesnar is not happening. I'll put it this way, if Rock,Cena,Lesnar are all busy, who will fight legitimately to Taker? CM Punk comes to mind as he would also be free from his expected opponent of HHH, but in realistic terms, he is not of the kayfabe credibility to face Undertaker at this stage at all. The right man to face Taker this year is Lesnar or Cena.

As Starbuck and Rock316AE have alluded to, Rock/Cena is the big match that we should be hoping they avoid. Mainly because we have already seen that match and anything outside of a Cena heel turn(which frankly, won't happen right now) would be very disappointing. People have seen it, and it should not be brought up again really.



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I'm willing to give Cena/Rock 2 a chance, but only if WWE will give us what they should have given the first time and that is an intense feud over the WWE title with both guys actually wrestling during the build-up to get people more invested instead of just talking every other week.

That's the main thing I hate about Icon vs Icon or Legend vs Icon matches, they try to sell the match by name value and promos alone. This may work in boxing and UFC but not so much in wrestling.
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Apart from those victories, what Raw or SummerSlam moment sticks out for you?
"I've had so many cool moments on Monday Night Raw. I remember when The Rock first came back and every time his music played everyone would go 'Aaaaah!' Well since they did that every time and I was getting overlooked by everyone - and I was the WWE champion at the time - I decided to dress up as The Rock and come out with the music.

"I thought people would know it was me from the beginning, but they were just so amazed that The Rock was there. I think Cena was getting beaten up and all of a sudden you hear 'If you smell...!' and everyone goes 'Aaaaah!' and all of a sudden I walk out like I was The Rock. Then there was another 'Aaaaah!' and then I took off the sunglasses thinking people will get it now... No! An even bigger eruption happened.



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"Then I started walking down and people started getting it and then I beat the crap out of Cena. That was one of my highlights. I thought this is awesome... I messed with everybody."

If you could have a bout with anyone, who would it be?
"I would say The Rock. The reason I wanted to be a WWE Superstar was because of The Rock. I used to watch him in The Attitude Era. There was no-one more electrifying and no-one more must-see than The Rock. Seeing that I just always wanted to have a singles match with him.

"I had a tag match with him at a sold-out event at Madison Square Garden, which I was the main event in. I don't mean to brag about that but I sold out Madison Square Garden in two minutes. Note to self."

Cody Rhodes On The Rock and Brock Lesnar's recent returns: "Well, I mean, I walked into The Rock's dressing room at WrestleMania and thanked him for the number of people who were there that night and the number of people who ordered it on pay per view. I have such respect for The Rock. And now with the return of Brock it's completely different than The Rock. But for me, it kind of just made me angry and not in a way like, 'Oh, blast. They get to be on another pay per view.' More in a way that I'm out there working. I never take a day off. I never plan on taking a day off. I'm so in love with the wrestling business I couldn't see myself going away. And these guys have that ability to come back in because they have that presence, they have that following and are just automatically accepted as superstars again. So there's something to learn and something to be kind of irritated from that whole Attitude Era generation, but I get it from both the good and the bad."

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