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Old 08-25-2012, 08:43 PM   #471 (permalink)
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Not yet which is why its been kinda disappointing. They showed the background of Rock and Cena's careers, showed them backstage right before the match started, the entrances and they've been showing the match for the past 30 minutes. Its great for me and whoever else that never saw it on TV though.

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Old 08-25-2012, 10:34 PM   #472 (permalink)
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Rock giving a completely fresh Rock Bottom and a People's Elbow combination and the stadium will explode like never before when Taker is kicking out. Rock/Taker will be much better than Cena/Taker in every aspect(Cena is not a fighter in any way, and Rock is ten times the brawler he is), and the only way Brock/Taker will be better is if you want another MMA based brawl which was already much less effective the second time at Summerslam.

I was just thinking a spot were Rock gives Taker a tombstone after maybe 2 rock bottoms but he doesnt go for the pin,He just falls back does a kick up and hits a peoples elbow 1,2...Taker kicks out!!! tho whole stadium shits its pants!!
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No problem bro, just thought it can be used a lot, especially now when The GOAT is coming back to be the Shark of greatness in the middle of a sea of mediocrity :Rock
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:42 PM   #473 (permalink)
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I don't think Rock can do the kip-up anymore
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:18 AM   #474 (permalink)
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I don't think Rock can do the kip-up anymore
He did it early in the match against Cena and early at Survivor Series. Whether he can do it 25 minutes into a match though is a question mark.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:17 AM   #475 (permalink)
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I get what you're saying, Starbuck. But I just don't look at Cena as a brawler/fighter. I also don't see him turning heel for quite some time. If he's to do the taker match, he's being a face.
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Just watched the Rock/Cena special, even though it was all material from Rock's new documentary and the Once in a Lifetime show before WM, it was a nice and simple background on their life and careers for new viewers. I guess that they're saving all the new content for the Rock/Cena DVD that comes out in two weeks, full of rare extras which should be great. The hype they did before one of the commercials showing them walking backstage before the entrance was good, big fight feel. I loved the new angles they showed during the match, they cut to crowd shots in random points of the match and gave you a different look of the arena. Match was awesome ****1/2. The ending with Rock standing in the ring and they're showing fans hugging and jumping everywhere, along with his mom, and the place in insanity with Rock on the ropes and the fireworks was an epic shot. Iconic.

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He can, he did it plenty of times in the last year, SVS 2011, WM28, TE in April 11 and even in Fast 5. With Miz in March last year was just a slip, he already did the kip-up but his foot slipped. One time deal, especially in his current shape, I'm sure he can do it smoothly.

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I was just thinking a spot were Rock gives Taker a tombstone after maybe 2 rock bottoms but he doesnt go for the pin,He just falls back does a kick up and hits a peoples elbow 1,2...Taker kicks out!!! tho whole stadium shits its pants!!
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, all the fresh combinations you can do, would be crazy atmosphere.
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so the rock was injured at Wm28????????
first time i know this why they didn't announce it atleast to give cena something to brag about after the defeat?
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Should be

Taker v cena with cena turning heel during the match to end the streak or to get a no contest
Lesner v Rock For the title.
Punk V HHH with punk his win

Rock and CENA 2 should be at WM 30 as cena would of a year of being a heel and should have had the title for over 8-10 months.This would be built as the only one who can stop cena(and maybe his clan etc orton with him) would be the rock.

Cena beats the rock but sees the error of his ways etc

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Both times he has done the kip-up on live TV he needed help from the guy he was facing and then obviously that one he did against Miz failed, you can give whatever excuses but he botched it. It's not a big deal anyway, I doubt there are many 260lb 40 year old men who could still do it after 7/8 years out the game
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Again, some don't get the point, there's no "evolution" of the streak or continuity. HBK couldn't beat Taker, so they took it to another level, and he put his career on the line. HHH couldn't beat Taker, so they took it to another level, in their feud and put HIAC around the ring. That was their story, not the story of the streak, what one guy couldn't do in a brutal HIAC, another guy can do in a match. I will say it again.
Yuck no! This is a horrible thing to say. Horrible. You don't understand how I don't get your point well I don't understand for one second how you can say that there has been no evolution of the streak matches. That's just flat out wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. The story is there, it's right in front of you and staring everybody in the face. Their (HBK/Taker/HHH) story has now become the story of the streak. The Undertaker MUST be destroyed in order to beat him at Wrestlemania and it will take a hell of a lot more than a Rock Bottom to get the job done.

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That's of course if you want to talk believability and reality based story, what you're saying that if one guy lost in a brutal match, it means that a better opponent can't do it in another, is not realistic or believable, you put Rock with Taker at WM and the entire crowd is going to buy every nearfall more than anything they did in HIAC. It's all about the delivery, HBK/HHH traded 100 finishers with Taker at Mania, to the point where you knew it's not ending until at least 3 or 4 more. Rock giving a completely fresh Rock Bottom and a People's Elbow combination and the stadium will explode like never before when Taker is kicking out. Rock/Taker will be much better than Cena/Taker in every aspect(Cena is not a fighter in any way, and Rock is ten times the brawler he is), and the only way Brock/Taker will be better is if you want another MMA based brawl which was already much less effective the second time at Summerslam.
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying at all tbh because that's not it. Then again, you don't, for whatever reason, see any evolution or continuity in the streak matches so it's obvious where the disconnect is coming from. I'll tell you this much. I was there for Mania 28 and from bell to bell, before that actually with JR walking down the ramp, that entire arena was 150% invested in the HIAC match. 150%. Every nearfall, every finisher, everything was bought into so I don't see how you can say that a match with Rock would best that. Match it? Maybe. Best it? I don't think so. I also don't think a Rock Bottom/Elbow combo is going to scare people into believing the streak is over as much as you think it will. Most fans aren't stupid and most of them, like me, will see an evolution in the streak matches these past few years. They're going to know that it will take a hell of a lot more to beat Taker than the People's Elbow. If it happens after a complete and utter ass kicking with weapons and brutal spots etc? Sure. If it happens in the context of a regular match or even a highly intense match? I don't think so, not for one second. I also disagree that Rock/Taker will be better than Cena/Taker. With Cena, there is legit belief that he could end the streak and if he were to be heel for the program, that would only multiply. Brock/Taker will be better than Rock/Taker as well imo. While still fairly predictable, for the sake of the story, I can buy into Lesnar beating Taker a lot more than I can Rock. I don't think I'd be the only one either.

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I get what you're saying, Starbuck. But I just don't look at Cena as a brawler/fighter. I also don't see him turning heel for quite some time. If he's to do the taker match, he's being a face.
If he does the Taker match he's the de facto heel the second it even gets teased. He's basically a heel in all his programs already lol. Put him against Taker and there's no way he'll be able to get by on his never give up shit. There is a LOT of meat on the bones for a Taker/Cena program. A LOT, much more so than Rock/Taker could ever hope to have in 2012/13/14.
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