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Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread

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wwe.com said:
Perhaps the parade was premature. Perhaps the celebrating, the humble tweets to The People and the legions of Team Bring It, and the proclamation that FINALLY, The Rock was WWE Champion once again jumped the gun by just a bit. Maybe, just maybe, The Rock put the horse before the cart when he celebrated his latest triumph on Raw Roulette, because CM Punk is not done with The Great One by a long shot.


How could he be, either? When a Superstar holds the WWE Title — Punk’s “life’s work,” in his own words — for 434 days spread across three calendar years, he does not just simply throw up his hands and call it a good run when the prize is taken from his clutches. So it was of no surprise when, during The Rock’s celebratory address to the WWE Universe as its new champion, The Straight Edge Superstar himself declared would be evoking his rematch clause – “granting” Rock a rematch was how he earned it – at Elimination Chamber. It was also of no surprise that The Rock gladly accepted.

But once again, maybe Rock is counting his proverbial chickens too early, because for all CM Punk’s feverish boasting in his final days as champion, he was right about one thing after the Royal Rumble: Hedidpin The Rock. It was one-two-three in the middle of the ring, although it took a sneak attack by who we can only assume was The Shield to weaken The Brahma Bull enough for Punk to make the pin. And it was only after Mr. McMahon restarted the bout that The Great One found enough of a second wind to silence CM Punk and put The Straight Edge Superstar to sleep, claiming his eighth WWE Championship in the process.

So at Elimination Chamber, the most brutal pit stop on The Road to WrestleMania, The Rock will face his own personal demon yet again. And The People’s Champion will have to be very, very careful, because CM Punk does not make the same mistake twice, and he is very, very angry. The very real opinion exists — depending whom you ask — that Punk should still be WWE Champion. And with it, the very real possibility exists — should The Rock think one victory equals winning the war — that The Brahma Bull’s parade could end as soon as it began and that CM Punk will be champion again, with history in his hands for the third time.


Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson said:
Over 100 years of Heavyweight Champions.

3 generations in my blood.

New WWE Champion.

My honor. TEAM BRING IT.


wwe.com said:
Attitude Era original Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson will compete in his first World Title match in more than a decade when he challenges WWE Champion CM Punk, the longest-reigning WWE Title holder of the past quarter-century, at Royal Rumble on Jan. 27.

The WWE Universe has anxiously awaited The Great One’s return to the WWE Title picture since he announced his championship opportunity on Raw 1,000 last July. Though there was no guarantee at the time whom The Rock’s opponent would be, the always-confident Punk fired an opening salvo that night, cutting down The Rock with a clothesline before knocking him out with a picture-perfect Go to Sleep. The following week, The Voice of the Voiceless defended his actions by suggesting The Great One, having been “gifted” a WWE Title match, viewed victory at the Royal Rumble as a foregone conclusion.

Whether a real or perceived slight, the implication that The Rock places himself on a higher plane than the current WWE Champion was seemingly all the motivation Punk needed to make sure he would still have the title on Jan. 27.

In the half-year since Raw 1,000, The Second City Saint stunned WWE fans by aligning with Paul Heyman and ratcheting up the vitriol of his speech. More important than either of those details, he has — by hook or by crook — maintained possession of the championship gold. Having turned back challenges by John Cena and Ryback in recent months, The Best in the World now looks ahead to testing himself against the seven-time former WWE Champion who vowed in 2012 to regain the title.

For The Rock, an A-list Hollywood action star and third-generation Superstar who has sports-entertainment coursing through his veins, the Royal Rumble title match represents the start of a potential career renaissance inside the ring. Since March 2004, The Most Electrifying Man in All of Entertainment has competed in only two sanctioned WWE matches, teaming with John Cena to shred The Awesome Truth (The Miz & R-Truth) at Survivor Series 2011 and overcoming the Cenation leader at WrestleMania XXVIII.

But by vying for the most treasured prize in sports-entertainment, The Rock is committing to more than another appearance as a “special attraction.” Rather, he is setting his eyes on again becoming WWE’s gold standard.

Hell-bent though The Rock may be on introducing a new generation of WWE fans to The People’s Champion, there is no discounting Punk’s deftness once the bell rings. Controversial endings to several high-profile title defenses may have tarnished The Second City Saint’s reputation in the eyes of some critics, but they have done nothing to change the fact the WWE Championship still sits around his waist. Before his seedier side came into focus in late summer, Punk spent much of 2012 disposing of WWE’s best and brightest, ranging from Chris Jericho and Daniel Bryan to Dolph Ziggler and Kane. How will the WWE Champion match up against one of the pillars of The Attitude Era?

As the WWE Universe excitedly counts down the days until Jan. 27, the back-and-forth between two of WWE’s most compelling talkers is bound to pick up steam. It will not be until the Royal Rumble, however, that the trash talk gives way to the gravity of a game-changing WWE Championship bout, the likes of which hasn’t seen in years. Will Royal Rumble mark the rebirth of a championship Brahma Bull, or will it only underscore what Punk has claimed all along, that he is untouchable and in a class by himself?
The Rock explains why he wants WWE Title

WWE part-time star The Rock revealed why re-capturing the WWE Title is important to him in a new interview with WWE Magazine. It's a statement that has been missing from WWE television leading up to the Royal Rumble PPV.

"It starts with recognizing what the WWE Championship represents to me," Rock said in the February 2013 issue. "Every time I hold that title over my head in victory, it not only signifies the fact that I have delivered the absolute best entertainment that I could to the WWE Universe, but that I'm taking a moment to live an experience that all the generations of wrestlers in my family strived to achieve.

Rock continued, "There is no other award that I could receive that's as deeply ingrained in my blood and history as the WWE Championship - and that's why it means so much to me."

At the same time, Rock said that after his first WWE Title reign - which came in 1998 - he decided that he would never allow his possession of or lack of the WWE Title define his career.

"After my first WWE Championship run came to an end, I made a conscious decision that night that I would work harder than any other Superstar in the locker room to become the type of WWE entertainer who, if I never had another championship run again, it would not define my career. I never wanted to rely on a title run for success."

Rock's next statement reflects his recent approach to mixing "entertainment" with "seriousness." Rock concluded, "My goal was to get to a place where I relied only on what I could bring to the table in terms of being entertaining and having a one-of-a-kind - and electrifying - connection with all of the WWE Universe."

[ FYI: Rock's interview is part of a cover-feature on Rock in the latest WWE Magazine. ]

Link - http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_68014.shtml














 
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#4,259 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

I remember when The Rock came back in 2011 when he was revealed as the Wrestlemania guest host...

The haters said we wouldn't see him on RAW again before Wrestlemania and then he'd be gone after. They were WRONG. We saw Rocky in Chicago on the go-home RAW.

They said there's NO WAY Rocky would ever wrestle again because he wouldn't want to take bumps and risk his Hollywood career. They were WRONG, as Rock was on RAW the night after Mania and challenged John Cena for a match at Wrestlemania 28.

The haters also claimed there would be NO WAY The Rock would wrestle before Wrestlemania because it would hurt the buyrate for Mania. Rock was on RAW before Survivor Series and then wrestled in a tag match at the Survivor Series PPV. Wrestlemania 28 ended up breaking records and received the highest PPV buyrate in WWE history, beating out Wrestlemania 23 which was the previous record holder.

Next up, the naysayers said The Rock wouldn't be on RAW that much before Wrestlemania because of his movie promotion commitments. WRONG again, as he appeared LIVE on RAW 5 times before Wrestlemania, as well as wrestling in the main event of Wrestlemania AND appearing live the next night on RAW.

After Rock cut the promo saying he wanted to be champion again, people said we wouldn't see him again until the following year. WRONG, as Rock appeared on RAW1000 and not only had a a verbal confrontation with CM Punk but got involved in the main event and then being attacked by Punk, who turned heel in the process.

The Rock is about to come back to build towards the Royal Rumble. In January alone, he's confirmed for 6 appearances which was the amount he made in 2012 for the Wrestlemania hype. He's all but confirmed for Elimination Chamber and the RAW the night after, and then its highly likely he'll be on most RAWs from there until Wrestlemania if he's the champion.

Do you know how many appearances in total Rock has made since 2011? 17 appearances so far. How many were via satellite? A grand total of 3. Yet, he constantly gets shit for only appearing via satellite. He's been in the ring 14 times live since he came back, all while juggling his ridiculously busy movie schedule. You'd think he'd get cut a little slack after giving us so much more than anyone thought he would. In it for the money? Yeah right. He's set for life, he doesn't need the chump change he gets from WWE.

Dat Great One proving them wrong 24/7 :Rock
 
#4,263 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

I remember when The Rock came back in 2011 when he was revealed as the Wrestlemania guest host...

The haters said we wouldn't see him on RAW again before Wrestlemania and then he'd be gone after. They were WRONG. We saw Rocky in Chicago on the go-home RAW.

They said there's NO WAY Rocky would ever wrestle again because he wouldn't want to take bumps and risk his Hollywood career. They were WRONG, as Rock was on RAW the night after Mania and challenged John Cena for a match at Wrestlemania 28.

The haters also claimed there would be NO WAY The Rock would wrestle before Wrestlemania because it would hurt the buyrate for Mania. Rock was on RAW before Survivor Series and then wrestled in a tag match at the Survivor Series PPV. Wrestlemania 28 ended up breaking records and received the highest PPV buyrate in WWE history, beating out Wrestlemania 23 which was the previous record holder.

Next up, the naysayers said The Rock wouldn't be on RAW that much before Wrestlemania because of his movie promotion commitments. WRONG again, as he appeared LIVE on RAW 5 times before Wrestlemania, as well as wrestling in the main event of Wrestlemania AND appearing live the next night on RAW.

After Rock cut the promo saying he wanted to be champion again, people said we wouldn't see him again until the following year. WRONG, as Rock appeared on RAW1000 and not only had a a verbal confrontation with CM Punk but got involved in the main event and then being attacked by Punk, who turned heel in the process.

The Rock is about to come back to build towards the Royal Rumble. In January alone, he's confirmed for 6 appearances which was the amount he made in 2012 for the Wrestlemania hype. He's all but confirmed for Elimination Chamber and the RAW the night after, and then its highly likely he'll be on most RAWs from there until Wrestlemania if he's the champion.

Do you know how many appearances in total Rock has made since 2011? 17 appearances so far. How many were via satellite? A grand total of 3. Yet, he constantly gets shit for only appearing via satellite. He's been in the ring 14 times live since he came back, all while juggling his ridiculously busy movie schedule. You'd think he'd get cut a little slack after giving us so much more than anyone thought he would. In it for the money? Yeah right. He's set for life, he doesn't need the chump change he gets from WWE.

Dat Great One proving them wrong 24/7 :Rock
The Great One never lets his fans down :Rock
 
#5,756 ·
I was so excited about waking up this morning and watching RAW. I mean, I had to forward through a LOT of crap to get to the important stuff but it was definitely worth it.

The Rock DELIVERED and CM Punk DELIVERED in their exchange. Both men were absolutely fantastic and sold me and probably everyone else on buying the Royal Rumble. Now I'm just wondering what else they're going to do for three weeks?

The ONLY part I didn't like was Punk's promo before Rocky came out. It seemed to drag and the crowd wasn't responding to it at all. He was trying so hard for the heat but wasn't getting it. He rambled a bit and none of it was really relevant to The Rock and the feud. However, he had his game face on when The Rock came out and from there it was magic for this fan.

There was no "Dwayne" or "Phil" or "I'm here every week and you're never hear, you don't care about the fans blah blah" or any of that crap we had with Cena last year.

Punk is the long-reigning champion and he believes he's the best in the world. You can hear it in his voice; conviction and belief. On the other side of it, it was great to hear The Rock say he came back for three reasons - to entertain the fans, to stop Punk, and to win the title. In that one sentence, and with Punk holding it up after he said it and staring at it, the title became THE most important thing in the company again after playing second fiddle to Cena for a year. Phenomenal stuff, and it took all of ten seconds to elevate the belt again.

As for the idiotic people here ripping Rock's promo apart because of one or two corny lines....erm, have you guys just met The Rock for the first time or something? It's The Rock. He cuts an intense promo and throws in jokes here and there. Most work but one or two don't. The crowd eats it up every time, and the proof is in the pudding as he's a proven PPV draw in this dire climate. 99% of the fans pay to see The Rock do his thing. If he didn't do his thing, he wouldn't be The Rock. Simple as that.

And for those who say Rock's promo was crap because of one or two bad jokes...let's all go to page 3 of our hymn book and remember this nugget from the allegedly "legendary" Summer of Punk 2011:



From 5:40. Possibly the unfunniest thing I've ever seen, and absolutely cringe worthy. One could say it was....childish? No, surely not! CM Punk doesn't do childish! He does serious and intense! Nobody's perfect.
 
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Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

The booking and storyline at Survivor Series 1998 is up there with any angle in history. You just had to listen to the dead silence in the crowd when Rock turned on them. Brilliant. Russo always jumps to say that this is the best work he has ever done. 20k were standing there in complete shock after crazily cheering and chanting for The Rock for months and all that night like never before. They only realized what happened there the next night when Rock came out to mega heat and the clever story of this point was that now the tide has turned and Rock is the one who didn't want them on his side while they were begging to be there, wanting to chant along with him. Which led to the "This is not sing along with The Great One!" catchphrase.

Bossman "losing" in 3 seconds, then "accidentally" throwing the stick to Shamrock, Kane causing a DQ on Taker, Shane screwing Austin in his match with Mankind, and the top of the list, Rock, Shane and Vince revealing the new Corporate WWF champion to close the show when nobody saw it coming. Pure money, the highest drawing title run on the road in history and on his FIRST RAW main event as WWF Champion in the match against Austin, Rock broke the all-time RAW record at that time with a 7.3 against a pretty big Goldberg/Bigelow match on Nitro. The Shakespeare of rasslin'. Booking peaked that night.

1:55


"Look at that, you would think The Rock had been attacked by damn King Kong. And the award goes to...Where's The Rock's Oscar Vince?" :rocky

Remind me to post this when Rock gets his rightful Oscar one day.



Nothing like The Corporate Champion, his work in HalfTime Heat alone deserves an Oscar. Rock was working title match after title match on RAW, Road Dogg, X-Pac, HHH, Al Snow, Austin, Mankind etc. Week after week main eventing RAW with WWF title matches. Great Rock/Al Snow match with Rock giving a Corporate Elbow to the legendary, revolutionary, iconic...HEAD:



A MUST MUST SEE FOR EVERY ROCK FAN AROUND THE WORLD THIS WHAT U DIDN'T SEE IN THE ROCK CENA DVD

The World's Reaction to The Rock defeating John Cena AND FROME THE ARENA UNREAL



HE IS THE CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE .. FACT
Amazing video. Great match and an iconic moment that will live forever. The reactions on YouTube were worth this year. The Cena kids in that vid deserve a medal for their gold performance, best by far were: "HOW CAN HE LOSE?! He's supposed to be THE BEST CHAMP!!", "I HATTTTE JJOOOOHNNN CCCEEENNAA!!!" :lmao. The live stadium footage was awesome. Unforgettable, all-time memorable moment like only The GOAT can create.
 
#3,313 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Since when did promos start to become about burying (non-kayfabe) and one-upping the other man like it's some sort of contest? I'm with Starback Santa Game on this one, the shits irritating and I want to see two characters create an entertaining story not some shoot BS for smarks.
 
#3,635 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

:rock4 You see it's Boots 2 Asses!

:punk2 No Dwayne, it's Knees 2 Faces

:rock4 Boots 2 Asses

:punk2 Dwayne,It's really Knees 2 Faces

:Rock3 Phil, Really it's Boots 2 Asees

:punk4 KNEES 2 FACES

:Rock2 BOOTS 2 ASSES

:punk4 KNEES 2 FACES

:Rock2 BOOTS 2 ASSES

:cena2 I'm here every week.

:punk :Rock
 
#3,643 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

:rock4 You see it's Boots 2 Asses!

:punk2 No Dwayne, it's Knees 2 Faces

:rock4 Boots 2 Asses

:punk2 Dwayne,It's really Knees 2 Faces

:Rock3 Phil, Really it's Boots 2 Asees

:punk4 KNEES 2 FACES

:Rock2 BOOTS 2 ASSES

:punk4 KNEES 2 FACES

:Rock2 BOOTS 2 ASSES

:cena2 I'm here every week.

:punk :Rock
:lmao at cena
 
#5,307 · (Edited)
:lmao I just checked what Cookie Puss is and in the wiki page of it, you got two Punk pics :rock4 Amazing.

Rock was on fire as usual and that was the best promo in the company since Rock's Miami/WWE title promo after WM. Basically covered everything, most important thing was how Punk pretended to not care about his promises, when in reality, he stopped trying after he legitimately failed to do it. Not a change, not a new era, couldn't even get an ice cream because he has no power, as Rock said, delusional. Rock also mentioned how the people rejected Punk and not the other way around, which is spot on because the paying audience refused to see him as a top guy no matter how many matches he won or how many days he held the belt. Rock just sold the Rumble in one promo. Created tension with Punk, put over the importance of the title for him, entertained the live audience like only he can AND between all that, even put Punk over as a threat. Pleasure to watch the master work his magic again.

Punk did his job well when Rock came out. The first part of the promo where he cries about Tyson Kid and backstage politics was pointless and had nothing to do with anything. The main part here was selling the Rumble match.

Would love to watch that off-air segment of Rock giving Punk 3 Rock Bottoms and a People's Elbow. Can't wait for Rock's first SD in a decade in his hometown. After this money promo, SmackDown should be more about fun and maybe fresh interactions.
 
#5,312 ·
:lmao I just checked what Cookie Puss is and in the wiki page of it, you got two Punk pics :rock4 Amazing.

Rock was on fire as usual and that was the best promo in the company since Rock's Miami/WWE title promo after WM. Basically covered everything, most important thing was how Punk pretended to not care about his promises, when in reality, he stopped trying after he legitimately failed to do it. Not a change, not a new era, couldn't even get an ice cream because he has no power, as Rock said, delusional. Rock also mentioned how the people rejected Punk and not the other way around, which is spot on because the paying audience refused to see him as a top guy no matter how many matches he won or how many days he held the belt. Rock just sold the Rumble in one promo. Created tension with Punk, put over the importance of the title for him AND between all that, even put Punk over as a threat. Pleasure to watch the master work his magic again.

Punk did his job well when Rock came out. The first part of the promo where he cries about Tyson Kid and backstage politics was pointless and had nothing to do with anything. The main part here was selling the Rumble match.

Would love to watch that off-air segment of Rock giving Punk 3 Rock Bottoms and a People's Elbow. Can't wait for Rock's first SD in a decade in his hometown. After this money promo, SmackDown should be more about fun and maybe fresh interactions.
People are going to dismiss your posts because you're, well, ROCK316AE, but you are absolutely right. Rock made strong points but they get slightly overshadowed in the flashy way he makes those points. Punk's points are more apparent because he delivers them differently.
 
#5,368 · (Edited)
The single most fascinating thing about this feud truly is the contrast in styles.

Punk's idiosyncratic nature, his off the cuff promo deliveries, the passion he exhumes is a personality trait that the Rock never had to deal with. He represents a new wave of wrestling culture that puts focus on in-ring performance and realism rather than showmanship and a larger than life image. He's breaking a wall that has held his peers at bay for years, and he's become a the longest champion in recent memory at a time when storyline changes happen on a dime. He's desperately trying to usher in a new era, and the legacy of his title reign will undoubtably be affected by the outcome of the Rumble match. If he wins, he has cemented his legacy as the only wrestler to defeat the Rock since Bill Goldberg in 2003, instantly etching his name amungst WWE's legends. It would also forward his title reign which could only be a good thing. If he loses, he just lost to a part-time star that likely won't be around much in the coming years, the momentum he's built up comes to an end. If Punk stands for something in today's WWE climate, it's that the new crop of athletes can be a worthy succession to the great era's of the past, it's important for CM Punk to hold his own against the Rock if only to prove that the future is immediate.. something Cena couldn't do.

The Rock's tongue twisting natural charisma is a throwback to what once catapulted the WWE to unseen successes. He's the very embodiment of the perfect prototypical superstar. The Rock's involvement with anyone instantly raises that person's status, but a new movement in wrestling will never break through if the best thing were getting is what once worked in the past. The Rock wants to fulfill his desire to win the championship and headline Wrestlemania once again. It's something that he needs to do in order for his journey to come full circle.

What makes this dynamic so great aside from the things i've mentioned in my previous posts is that there's absolutely no telling who's going to come out with the belt. Both guys could come out on top, and both scenarios could benefit the WWE greatly. Now is a time when you're witnessing two worlds collide, two guys at the very peak of their talents trying to show the predominance of everything they represent. It's the basic battle between good and evil with profound undertones and implications. On the surface level, the Rock is the embodiment of the people's champion representing the WWE Universe and singing their praises, while the sinister CM Punk tries to crush their spirit. This feud could work wonders in telling a story to both the casual audience that prefer suspending their disbelief, and it works for those that want their feuds to have realism, meaning and merit behind them. This feud is incredibily multilayered.

Anyway. I really enjoyed their encounter tonight. It's absolutely the right move to let these guys be themselves with the volume turned way upThe tension, the chemistry and the intensity was there in ample amounts to accomplish exactly what it needed to do. This is far more engaging than the Cena feud because both guys here actually have alot on the line, and both guys are masters of the mic in completely different ways. They certainly proved that tonight by clicking on all cylinders.
 
#5,371 ·
The single most fascinating thing about this feud truly is the contrast in styles.

Punk's idiosyncratic nature, his off the cuff promo deliveries, the passion he exhumes is a personality trait that the Rock never had to deal with. He represents a new wave of wrestling culture that puts focus on in-ring performance and realism rather than showmanship and a larger than life image. He's breaking a wall that has held his peers at bay for years, and he's become a the longest champion in recent memory at a time when storyline changes happen on a dime. He's desperately trying to usher in a new era, and the legacy of his title reign will undoubtably be affected by the outcome of the Rumble match. If he wins, he has cemented his legacy as the only guy wrestler to defeat the Rock since Bill Goldberg in 2003, instantly etching his name amungst WWE's legends. It would also forward his title reign which could only be a good thing. If he loses, he just lost to a part-time star that likely won't be around much in the coming years, the momentum he's built up comes to an end. If Punk stands for something in today's WWE climate, it's that the new crop of athletes can be a worthy succession to the great era's of the past, it's important for CM Punk to hold his own against the Rock if only to prove that the future is immediate.. something Cena couldn't do.

The Rock's tongue twisting natural charisma is a throwback to what once catapulted the WWE to unseen successes. He's the very embodiment of the perfect prototypical superstar. The Rock's involvement with anyone instantly raises that person's status, but a new movement in wrestling will never break through if the best thing were getting is what once worked in the past. The Rock wants to fulfill his desire to win the championship and headline Wrestlemania once again. It's something that he needs to do in order for his journey to come full circle.

What makes this dynamic so great aside from the things i've mentioned in my previous posts is that there's absolutely no telling who's going to come out with the belt. Both guys could come out on top, and both scenarios could benefit the WWE greatly. Now is a time when you're witnessing two worlds collide, two guys at the very peak of their talents trying to show the predominance of everything they represent. It's the basic battle between good and evil with profound undertones and implications. On the surface level, the Rock is the embodiment of the people's champion representing the WWE Universe and singing their praises, while the sinister CM Punk tries to crush their spirit. This feud could work wonders in telling a story to both the casual audience that prefer suspending their disbelief, and it works for those that want their feuds to have realism, meaning and merit behind them. This feud is incredibily multilayered.

Anyway. I really enjoyed their encounter tonight. It's absolutely the right move to let these guys be themselves with the volume turned way upThe tension, the chemistry and the intensity was there in ample amounts to accomplish exactly what it needed to do. This is far more engaging than the Cena feud because both guys here actually have alot on the line, and both guys are masters of the mic in completely different ways. They certainly proved that tonight by clicking on all cylinders.
Almost read this over twice it was so good.

Bravo sir, bravo. (Y)
 
#7,682 ·
Re: Do people realise Punk has done a lot the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

You guys need to learn when your being trolled. These people's opinions are consistently negative. You can put out a topic that says "CM Punk likes Oreos" and they will come in with the same spiel.
 
#7,685 ·
Re: Do people realise Punk has done a lot the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

You guys need to learn when your being trolled. These people's opinions are consistently negative. You can put out a topic that says "CM Punk likes Oreos" and they will come in with the same spiel.
When Rock arrived @ Raw. What it did it say on that piece of paper the writers gave to Rock? "Punk beat the system", "You come in and interrupt" - ??????
 
#1,611 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Obviously Ryback would go heel for the match and become "Hollywood Ryback", he'd come to the ring wearing sunglasses and change his catchphrase to "FEED ME CAVIAR" etc.
:rocky

Keep Ryback away from Rock. Unless you want the fans to completely turn on him.

They're trying to build him up into the next big baby face, and going against Rock will just have the fans turning on him.

Brock Vs Rock worked cause Brock was actually a heel.

Punk Vs Rock is the money match and the match most want to see. Will be an amazing sight seeing Rocky pin Phil 1..2..3. :Rock
 
#3,154 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

I honestly dont understand the heat Rock is getting for having a title shot.

People claim he didnt "earn" it, really? That makes no sense on so many levels. Reminder people: he was a full time wrestler and the biggest draw in wrestling history. Not to mention tons of other people over the years have came back after a long time away and quickly gotten a title shot.

Whats really funny about it is how its well documented Punk has been lobbying big time for a long time to get a match with Rock while he bashes him ahahahah what a joke.

WWE has already discredited/devalued the title by having Cena headline over it every time even wit the likes of Luranitis/Big Show so why not let the GOAT have 1 last title run.

Punk winning will only hurt his career much like Y2J beating the 2 biggest stars ever in 01 ruined his. You cant go from being booked like crap forever to beatin an all time great. If Punk was positioned properly when he was red hot last summer to be equal to Cena id be all for it but he hasnt.
 
#4,382 ·
Re: If CM Punk loses the WWE title at Royal Rumble does he get a rematch?

Well heres how its going to go down...

Rock and Punk face off in the middle of the ring. They lock up the gong rings and the lights go out. Everyone starts chanting Taker. Next thing you know Cena is in the ring and AA's Rock and Punk. Taker's music hits and he starts walking to the ring. Gong rings again and Sting decends from the rafters and hits Cena with a bat. Taker is still walking down to the ring while Sting has Punk in a scorpion deathlock. Lesnar's music hits and he runs down to the ring and knocks over Taker, breaking his hip in the process. Lesnar then begins to kill everyone in the ring and pins their lifeless corpes.

mfw

 
#4,390 ·
Re: If CM Punk loses the WWE title at Royal Rumble does he get a rematch?

Well heres how its going to go down...

Rock and Punk face off in the middle of the ring. They lock up the gong rings and the lights go out. Everyone starts chanting Taker. Next thing you know Cena is in the ring and AA's Rock and Punk. Taker's music hits and he starts walking to the ring. Gong rings again and Sting decends from the rafters and hits Cena with a bat. Taker is still walking down to the ring while Sting has Punk in a scorpion deathlock. Lesnar's music hits and he runs down to the ring and knocks over Taker, breaking his hip in the process. Lesnar then begins to kill everyone in the ring and pins their lifeless corpes.

mfw

well that escalated quickly...
 
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#5,304 ·
Rock wasn't holding back anything, heel or face he would've said pretty much the same thing with more insults added in.

Every wrestler delivers promos in their own way. I don't understand why some fans haven't figured that out yet. CM Punk cuts a shoot style promo, that's HIS style. You will NEVER see Cena or Rock or practically any other guy on the roster cut a promo like him because that's HIS shtick.

Rock delivers his promos with a good balance of intensity and comedy which is hard to master as Cena has tried for years to find this balance himself and fails as he's either too intense or too comedic.

Rock also manages to put over the guy he's facing to build them up in the fans eyes while at the same time tossing in a few insults so in the end they're at the same level to the viewers. Notice how Rock went back and forth of mentioning Punk's title reign and talent while making fun of his looks?

Some of you ignorant haters need to realize that these two will never cross into each other's shticks. Punk won't be making jokes and spitting out catchphrases and Rock will never "break the 4th wall" bringing up the non-kayfabe issues in the WWE.

That's not who Punk and Rock are and that's not what we know them as. We know them as two talented men both on the mic and in the ring with two different styles on the opposite ends of the spectrum who just so happen to mesh so well when put together in the ring better than Cena could ever hope to be.

We have two more episodes of Raw for their promos to build up into something amazing, this was just a taste of what's in store.

So stop spitting it out, fucking swallow it and enjoy. :cool2
 
#5,555 · (Edited)
Can we stop with the who owned who bullshit? i mean for fucks sake this is not the Cena match anymore this is not some guy coming out and talking absolute shit and giving bullshit arguments on why we should hate Rock the movie star and love him the hard working kid,This centers around Rock wanting the belt and Punk not whiling to make that happen so easily,2000 Rock is not coming back and he doesnt need to,same with corporate Rock this is not him trying to climb his way to the top anymore this is not him trying to become the greatest of all time,this is the Biggest name in wrestling history coming back to give the fans what they want and this allows him to interact with 10,000 fans going crazy for him,this run is to make dream matches happen,why the fuck would you want him to bury the roster? Like i said this is not Cena this is not the bullshit wrist notes promo no need for a burial the program is babyface vs heel interaction thats it,stop hopping for something that is not going to happen and it should not happen.
 
#5,556 ·
Can we stop with the who owned who bullshit? i mean for fucks sake this is not the Cena match anymore this is not some guy coming out and talking absolute shit and giving bullshit arguments on why we should hate Rock the movie star and love him the hard working kid,This center around Rock wanting the belt and Punk not whiling to make that happen so easily,2000 Rock is not coming back and he doesnt need to same with corporate Rock this is not him trying to climb hes way to the top anymore this is not him trying to become the greatest of all time,this is the Biggest name in wrestling history coming back to give the fans what they want and this allows him to interact with 10,000 fans going crazy for him,this run is to make dream matches happen,why the fuck would you want him to bury the roster? Like i said this is not Cena this is not the bullshit wrist notes promo no need for a burial the program is babyface vs heel interaction thats it,stop hopping for something that is not going to happen and it should not happen.
#dattruth
 
#5,755 ·
First things first, I 100% commend Punk for NOT doing 2 things I was absolutely convinced he was going to do:

1) DUWAYNE
2) Laugh, smile and no sell everything like Cena

The simple fact that he didn't do these things gets him a massive (Y) from me. Thank the lord. Staying with point number 2, the very fact that he stood there and didn't smile like a fucking idiot automatically puts the whole thing over as something serious to him which is absolutely what needed to happen. Big kudos to him for that.

The most important thing about this promo and something that I'd like to flag up would be the intensity they brought to the table. That was great and made for compelling TV. However, the promo didn't blow my mind like it did for a lot of people here. Sure, it was intense, but some of the content on both sides was poor. There were a lot of things I found silly, mainly Punk calling himself dangerous and Rock's most dangerous opponent ever lulz. I just can't take him seriously when he says he's going to kick somebody's ass when he has been booked like shit and when he looks like a lanky teenager when standing next to a guy like Rock. I just can't. It makes me lol. Anyways, I could sit here and nitpick on them and ultimately ruin this for myself like most of the rest of you but I'm not going to do that. At the end of the day, I came out of this wanting to see more and wanting to see the match and that's their job done.
 
#7,655 · (Edited)
Do people realise Punk has done a lot the ground work for Punk Vs The Rock?

Now I expect in the next few weeks and im unsure whether it has happened yet but people saying how The Rock returning has boosted ratings and boosted PPV buys. But while that is essentially true he couldn't have done it without CM Punk.

CM Punk has been putting in the hard ground work for months now, developing his character and doing the seemingly impossible turning heel.

CM Punk is naturally liked by a lot of crowds and so the last 6 months have been about getting as much heat and as much anger from the crowd as he can and why? SO fans are so frustrated and angered by his repetitive shtick that they want to see him lose the title so much. Turning him into a coward who manges to scrap through with a win no matter what the odds is just another way to wind up the crowd etc.

This in turn means when The Rock does turn up, more people tune in and buy the PPV because they want to see Punk lose and want to see The Rock get the better of him.

Whilst The Rock does pop ratings and PPVs buys he is only as good as his opponent.

Because if The Rock was feuding with pretty much anyone of 95% of the roster ratings and ppv buys wouldn't be anywhere near as high.
 
#8,309 · (Edited)
What a magical moment it was. I honestly said that Rock beating Cena with the PE/Rock Bottom spot was so rare and perfect that nothing can touch it and I say it even now, but Rock holding that title again meant so much more than I thought it would mean to me. The memories, the moments, the pose, it was one big, awesome presentation of a period that I will never forget. The match was great, Rock's ribs selling throughout the match was unbelievable, some nice exchanges like the Sharpshooter to the Vice to the roll up. Great near falls like the Rock Bottom and the elbow drop along with great reaction from the crowd as expected. Punk got his chants but it was 80%+ pro-Rock and the final victory pop was awesome. The ending after the Shield BS was a perfect symbolic finish with Rock doing exactly what he promised and as one with the people ending the 430 days of misery. Like he said in the emotional, passionate promo he cut before the match(The part about his mother especially was strong and you could see it in his facial expression. That promo came right from his heart), when the time will come all of them will beat Punk which is why it was the right finish to end it with the move that personified the fun and Rock's connection with the audience more than anything else, The People's Elbow. It was not as good as the Rock/Cena match IMO but it was a great, physical match with awesome investment and moment - ****1/4.

The Shield spot was completely pointless but everything else was too strong to ruin something. Iconic moment and the reason I'm still watching and following this industry. For classic moments like this with genuine emotion around it. Rock/Cena 2 at WM29 looks like it's already been confirmed but I still say what I said before and that's the possibility of the EC match with Heyman bringing back Lesnar to stop Rock, costing him the title and setting up Rock/Brock for the WM29 main event. For now I don't really care. Only one more thing to say:

9:15


 
#8,313 ·
Like he said in the emotional, passionate promo he cut before the match when the time will come all of them will beat Punk which is why it was the right finish to end it with the move that personified the fun and Rock's connection with the audience more than anything else, The People's Elbow.
Very good observation on the storytelling of the feud tied into the finish. I hadn't thought about it. It was The Rock and in a way "The People" that finally defeated CM Punk. I will certainty be re-watching this match tomorrow.
 
#8,877 ·
Can The Rock really retain the belt at Elimination Chamber?

The Rock winning the gold has many advantages in theory. It immediately attracts a bigger audience to Raw, and it puts a larger spotlight on WWE in the weeks leading up to Wrestlemania. So on paper this makes sense, but if the new champ either can't be bothered/doesn't have the correct schedule due to other commitments, to turn up on Raw, what is the point of him retaining at Elimination Chamber?

Now before I continue, I would like to qualify what I am saying by making clear I am not just saying this as a Punk fan. I respect The Rock and his contribution to the WWE, but I find it totally embarrassing that after 6 months of build up to the Royal Rumble, he finally wins, turns up at one Raw, and then bam, not there all of a sudden.

In the short term, Rock as champ is obviously a good business move, but each Raw that The Rock misses will quite quickly start to damage the impact of the WWE title. And if Rock and Cena want to feud over this belt...well I really don't see the belt being that important come WM29 if the belt is kept off TV.

The WWE belt has never been intended to go to the best wrestler, or even the best all round entertainer, or the best talker. It's simply meant to go to the person, who at the time, is carrying the ball. The one putting asses to seats. So whilst in theory The Rock is the greatest draw of all time...he can't draw if he can't be bothered to show up. I think he needs to drop the belt at EC for the sake of the titles reputation, and his own.
 
#8,911 · (Edited)
Re: Can The Rock really retain the belt at Elimination Chamber?

In the short term, Rock as champ is obviously a good business move, but each Raw that The Rock misses will quite quickly start to damage the impact of the WWE title.
Nothing did and will ever do more damage to the WWE title than what they did last year, having a WWE champion in the midcard.
If that's not enough they presented another guy who wrestled in the main event instead of the champion as someone who had the worst year ever in his career. I don't know what can damage more the impact of the title than what they did last year.
Vince treated the WCW title 2001 with more respect than his own title 11 years later. Hell, even Eric Bischoff with the WWE title during the Monday Night Wars (one of the biggest nightmares of Vince) would threat the title with more respect.

Back to topic, the win of the Rock is just a formality because the WWE champion needs to be somehow involved on a PPV before WrestleMania. They already plan Cena vs Rock so it doesn't make sense having Punk winning the belt. Even if they plan a triple threat match it would not make sense for having the Rock losing the title to CM Punk and having only a 1 month title reign when the next PPV after this is already WrestleMania.
 
#10 ·
Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Match Discussion

Royal Rumble 2013
CM Punk (c) vs The Rock for the belt, Rock win

Cena win the Royal Rumble

Wrestlemania 29
The Rock (c) vs John Cena
That's basically how I see it.

Than Cena will win and will do the ceremonial handshake with The Rock.
 
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