Official The Rock vs. CM Punk Discussion Thread - Page 392 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums

View Poll Results: Rate The Rock vs. CM Punk Feud

Underwhelming 77 20.48%
Decent/Good 171 45.48%
Great 3 128 34.04%
Voters: 376. You may not vote on this poll

Reply

Old 12-22-2012, 12:07 PM   #3911 (permalink)
Humbled
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Auckland
Posts: 431
Th3Gr3atOn3 is an after thoughtTh3Gr3atOn3 is an after thought
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

[quote=TheF1BOB;12412275]I think that's the No. of times he won the Intercontinental Championship.

EDIT: I don't know, just a typo error lol.[/QUOTE

doubtful because he held it twice, the first time was for 2 and a half months and the second time was for 5 days to 9 months, 265 days to be exact.
Edit: most likly a typing error.
Th3Gr3atOn3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 12-22-2012, 12:12 PM   #3912 (permalink)
Special Attraction at Wrestlemania
 
Choke2Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 20,752
Choke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Kool-Aidô View Post
How is he a flop? lol I've yet to see him do anything that warrants his reign was a flop. All the negatives come from WWE as usual, crappy storylines, shitty opponents for Punk, not having him Main Event for half of his reign, shit product so ratings are low.

None of this is Punk's fault at all. Tensai is a big flop, had a new gimmick, beat Cena, Punk and everything yet failed to garner interest. That's a big flop. Not Punk.
He is a flop because their attempt at making him a star failed horribly. Even when he was red hot during the Money in the Bank build-up, ratings went down. And look what happened when they stopped making him play second fiddle to Cena and whoever he feuded with. Ratings started decreasing faster than they ever have. To the point that a 2.5 is considered "okay" nowadays. Since Punk appeared about 3-4 times every week when ratings were at their lowest and they have gone up in the past few weeks when he's made minor 5 minute appearances, it's safe to say he's a flop that failed to deliver on par with the expectations for him. It's not all his fault, but he's certainly at fault and there's only so long you can use the "shit product" as the scapegoat.

And comparing him to Tensai just shows what a flop he is. That you have to compare him to someone who was doomed from the start with a stupid gimmick to prove he's not a flop... lol.
__________________
Choke2Death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #3913 (permalink)
Cutting a shoot promo to get over
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 7,298
WrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missedWrestlingforEverII probably won't be missed
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Rock-Says View Post
That probably the reason you did forget. lolololol
WrestlingforEverII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 02:09 PM   #3914 (permalink)
Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
 
King_Kool-Aidô's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,350
King_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new here
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Choke2Death View Post
He is a flop because their attempt at making him a star failed horribly. Even when he was red hot during the Money in the Bank build-up, ratings went down. And look what happened when they stopped making him play second fiddle to Cena and whoever he feuded with. Ratings started decreasing faster than they ever have. To the point that a 2.5 is considered "okay" nowadays. Since Punk appeared about 3-4 times every week when ratings were at their lowest and they have gone up in the past few weeks when he's made minor 5 minute appearances, it's safe to say he's a flop that failed to deliver on par with the expectations for him. It's not all his fault, but he's certainly at fault and there's only so long you can use the "shit product" as the scapegoat.

And comparing him to Tensai just shows what a flop he is. That you have to compare him to someone who was doomed from the start with a stupid gimmick to prove he's not a flop... lol.
meh ratings, ratings, ratings. the product is shit isn't a scapegoat when outside of him or one other person there really is no reason to tune in for RAW or Smackdown. This is the truth. Blaming it all on Punk is just silly and LOL at expecting him to change all of that around on his own without any actual help from the company themselves as they continue to stick him in terrible programs and flip flop back and forth with his character. I was using tensai to show you what a obvious flop is and that Punk isn't one because he's A, over, B been champion for over a year and still counting and C garnering interest and discussion when the rest of the show has nothing.

I also don't like how you're some ratings specialist, its stupid to care so much about them in an era where ratingzzz barely matter in WWE anymore. What are they competing with for ratings? As long as they maintain a certain rating that's all that matters. Should fans even care so much about ratings for a show that's not risking cancellation? Its a stupid argument for who's a flop and who isn't when wrestling isn't popular at all anymore and outside of Punk, Cena and AJ and Team Hell No there really aren't many people worth tuning in for. Unless you have actual proof people were tuning out when Punk was at his hottest its just a smear attempt at him.
__________________
YOU'VE GOT MISTER ASS WHICH WOULD MAKE ROAD DOGG MISTER HOLE! THEN YOU HAVE HUNTER WHO'S MISTER NOSE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CHYNA WHO IS.....well just mister. - LOD Road Warriors during a promo with DX.

Last edited by King_Kool-Aidô : 12-22-2012 at 02:15 PM.
King_Kool-Aidô is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 04:26 PM   #3915 (permalink)
Special Attraction at Wrestlemania
 
Choke2Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 20,752
Choke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by King_Kool-Aidô View Post
meh ratings, ratings, ratings. the product is shit isn't a scapegoat when outside of him or one other person there really is no reason to tune in for RAW or Smackdown. This is the truth. Blaming it all on Punk is just silly and LOL at expecting him to change all of that around on his own without any actual help from the company themselves as they continue to stick him in terrible programs and flip flop back and forth with his character. I was using tensai to show you what a obvious flop is and that Punk isn't one because he's A, over, B been champion for over a year and still counting and C garnering interest and discussion when the rest of the show has nothing.

I also don't like how you're some ratings specialist, its stupid to care so much about them in an era where ratingzzz barely matter in WWE anymore. What are they competing with for ratings? As long as they maintain a certain rating that's all that matters. Should fans even care so much about ratings for a show that's not risking cancellation? Its a stupid argument for who's a flop and who isn't when wrestling isn't popular at all anymore and outside of Punk, Cena and AJ and Team Hell No there really aren't many people worth tuning in for. Unless you have actual proof people were tuning out when Punk was at his hottest its just a smear attempt at him.
It is what it is, though. And I didn't blame it all on Punk. I just told the truth which is that he's a flop as a top guy. And he's over? I don't watch anymore until The Rock returns but from what little I've seen, Punk's crowd reaction is completely dead compared to when he was a face. On his one-year title reign celebration, he got total silence and even when mocking a real life heart attack, the crowd barely reacted. Unless they're in a smarky town, I don't think he gets much reaction. Hell, the cage match with Lawler got "boring" chants. (well deserved)

And a flop is someone who gets pushed in hopes of leading us to a new era but his push results in a complete 180 of that. Punk exemplifies that. Given a hot angle to run with and outside a handful of smarks that came back, there was no boost of interest in the product.

As for proof of people tuning out... his first main event spot after being champion was a complete flop in that 6 man tag match with Zack Ryder and D-Bryan. (night after TLC) His match with D-Bryan around May actually lost viewers and another one of his main event spots in that match with Tensai also lost viewers, lmao. And the go home show to MITB 2011 got a low 2.9 before that became a number to celebrate. And the only reason I "care" about ratings at this point is because they provide more entertainment than Raw does. That's how bad the shows are. And Punk is one of many reasons (possibly the top one) why I'm bored of the product.
__________________
Choke2Death is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 04:48 PM   #3916 (permalink)
Little Poppa Pump
 
TheF1BOB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK, England
Posts: 2,373
TheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friends
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Both King_Kool-Aidô and Choke2Death bring up great points.
  1. and his show is shit.
  2. is shit.
  3. :Rock is GOAT.
  4. I'm here every week.*

* The-Rock-Says.
__________________


The Moment Wrestling Died
TheF1BOB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 05:01 PM   #3917 (permalink)
Humbled
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Auckland
Posts: 431
Th3Gr3atOn3 is an after thoughtTh3Gr3atOn3 is an after thought
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheF1BOB View Post
Both King_Kool-Aidô and Choke2Death bring up great points.
  1. and his show is shit.
  2. is shit.
  3. :Rock is GOAT.
  4. I'm here every week.*

* The-Rock-Says.
Th3Gr3atOn3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 05:49 PM   #3918 (permalink)
SPICE/SWAG
 
swagger_ROCKS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 21,767
swagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREWswagger_ROCKS is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Rock-Says View Post
That probably the reason you did forget. lolololol


The more I think about Rock winning the title, the more I think of how big it could possibly. haters will hate thou, the minority at least.
__________________

KARLA LOPEZ, THE HOTTEST MODEL/ACTRESS ALIVE. Sheamus, Swagger, Wade, Dixie, Cesaro, Sami, DB, RKO, Drew, Del Rio, Cody, Punk, AJ LEE / (STAY STRONG, JTG, AND DREW ) CHAMPviaDQ = Great GFX. GigiStar
swagger_ROCKS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 05:54 PM   #3919 (permalink)
Little Poppa Pump
 
TheF1BOB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: UK, England
Posts: 2,373
TheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friendsTheF1BOB needs to make some friends
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

Quote:
Originally Posted by jingle_SWAG View Post


The more I think about Rock winning the title, the more I think of how big it could possibly. haters will hate thou, the minority at least.
The IWC can suck my Dwayne Johnson for all I care.
__________________


The Moment Wrestling Died
TheF1BOB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-22-2012, 06:34 PM   #3920 (permalink)
Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
 
King_Kool-Aidô's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,350
King_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new hereKing_Kool-Aidô better hope they're relatively new here
Default Re: Official The Rock WWE Championship Discussion

hopefully rock doesn't get the title back because it won't do shit for WWE in the long term and will still fail to garner interest from the casuals or mainstream since its too many years too late. Rock should have came back in 2006 or something.
__________________
YOU'VE GOT MISTER ASS WHICH WOULD MAKE ROAD DOGG MISTER HOLE! THEN YOU HAVE HUNTER WHO'S MISTER NOSE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT CHYNA WHO IS.....well just mister. - LOD Road Warriors during a promo with DX.
King_Kool-Aidô is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios