[Green Light]

@Stone Hot, I still don't understand why you actually want the fans to shit on the WWE title match? Please explain your logic behind that

[Starbuck]

Originally Posted by Rock316AE

Seriously, if they're going with the tired and pointless HHH/Lesnar at Mania just to give HHH "his win back" along with Rock/Cena for the same reason. There's a chance I'm not even watching the full PPV.

You really ought to be more worried about Taker taking Brock away from a match with Rock, not HHH. Seriously. Taker/Lesnar is a MUCH bigger possibility than HHH/Lesnar. The only way that match doesn't happen is if Taker can't go tbh. Give Hunter a bit of credit here. He isn't stupid. If they wanted to do HHH/Lesnar at Mania it wouldn't have already happened at Summerslam.

The 2 big matches this year are some combination of Taker/Rock/Lesnar/Cena. HHH isn't part of the equation this time around. It's either going to be Brock/Rock and Taker/Cena or Rock/Cena and Taker/Brock. My money is on the latter because I honestly believe they are saving Taker/Cena for Mania 30 when Brock won't be around and Rock possibly won't be around either. At this point in time I'd be close to betting my house that the 2 top matches for Mania end up Rock/Cena II for the title and Taker/Brock for the streak. Punk/HHH is a possibility too if HHH even has a match this time. HHH/Lesnar isn't even on the cards imo. It already happened, HHH got beat and that's it. They started the story arc of the beginning of the end of Hunter's career. Just because he mentioned Lesnar in a promo doesn't mean he's going to fight him again.

[Rock316AE]

Hope you're right but for now, all the signs are for HHH/Lesnar 2 and Rock/Cena 2, and if they want another "Once in a LifeTime/End of an Era" slogan, they can call it "How to destroy our biggest money show ever and make it the most wasted card of all time". They can write a book about it. Maybe in Bryan Alvarez's future book "The Death of WWE", we will get a chapter on WM29.

I think Taker is working WM, I don't see him missing a big show like that, it's just a one match effort and even with all his pain, I'm sure he can go through it. But there's a bigger chance that he's working with Cena or Ryback than Lesnar at this point IMO. I also see no reason for HHH to actually retire in the near future, he can still perform and be a one match guy for a few more years. He's there backstage anyway, when it's the right situation, he can always come back for a WM or a Summerslam. Don't see a reason for them to put the "retired" tag on him. Not to mention that I always hated this stupid "official retirement" concept. Anyway, what I see happening is Lesnar teasing HHH for weeks, saying that he retired because of him etc. HHH selling desperation on how he can't do it. Long story short, HHH agrees to the match, Lesnar dominates him, HHH brings Floyd, HHH going over at WM. Unfortunately, that's the pointless scenario I can see them doing this year. It can always change with one conversation but as of now, with the way they did things with HHH's "retirement", Lesnar/HHH is 90% the way I see it.

[Stone Hot]

Originally Posted by Green Light

@Stone Hot, I still don't understand why you actually want the fans to shit on the WWE title match? Please explain your logic behind that

theres no logic. Its for my entertainment

[BReal72]

Ok so if The Rock does face CM Punk at the Royal Rumble and wins the WWE Championship, like so many people think he will then CM Punk is entitled to a rematch surely. If The Rock is the WWE Champion i cant see him beeing in the Elimination Chamber to defend the title so Punk wont get his rematch there and so Punk will surely get his rematch at Wrestlemania right?
I mean he cant go on such a long title run and then not be given a rematch.
It makes me think that The Rock actually wont win the belt at the Royal Rumble- the match could end indecisively, leading to a rematch at Wrestlemania. It seems more appropriate for The Rock to win the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania and further solidify himself as the greatest superstar of all time. What do you think?

[Choke2Death]

They use the rematch clause whenever they feel like it. When Punk lost the title at SummerSlam, they only used the rematch thing once the HHH/Nash/Punk feud was over for HIAC. The Rock, himself, never had a rematch after he lost to Lesnar at SummerSlam 2002. Lesnar didn't have a rematch either for his third & final title reign when Eddie Guerrero beat him. There are times when ex-champions ask for a rematch but have to earn it through #1 contender matches/battle royals and so on.

Simple lesson to learn: Don't try to put logic into wrestling.

And on your question, they will NOT do Punk/Rock more than once. That would be a waste considering how limited Rock's appearances are. The WM match for the title will be most likely against Cena. (also a waste but it draws so Vince likes it)

[kokepepsi]

why wouldn't he work the EC
he comes out last.. only has to work like 10minutes
EASY FIX

[Starbuck]

Originally Posted by Rock316AE

Hope you're right but for now, all the signs are for HHH/Lesnar 2 and Rock/Cena 2, and if they want another "Once in a LifeTime/End of an Era" slogan, they can call it "How to destroy our biggest money show ever and make it the most wasted card of all time". They can write a book about it. Maybe in Bryan Alvarez's future book "The Death of WWE", we will get a chapter on WM29.

I think Taker is working WM, I don't see him missing a big show like that, it's just a one match effort and even with all his pain, I'm sure he can go through it. But there's a bigger chance that he's working with Cena or Ryback than Lesnar at this point IMO. I also see no reason for HHH to actually retire in the near future, he can still perform and be a one match guy for a few more years. He's there backstage anyway, when it's the right situation, he can always come back for a WM or a Summerslam. Don't see a reason for them to put the "retired" tag on him. Not to mention that I always hated this stupid "official retirement" concept. Anyway, what I see happening is Lesnar teasing HHH for weeks, saying that he retired because of him etc. HHH selling desperation on how he can't do it. Long story short, HHH agrees to the match, Lesnar dominates him, HHH brings Floyd, HHH going over at WM. Unfortunately, that's the pointless scenario I can see them doing this year. It can always change with one conversation but as of now, with the way they did things with HHH's "retirement", Lesnar/HHH is 90% the way I see it.

All the signs are definitely pointing to Rock/Cena II. There are NO signs pointing to HHH/Lesnar though, not to me anyways. Taker's matches have become the main thing they book in advance at Mania. Taker isn't working with Ryback. There's simply not even the slightest chance of it happening. It's Lesnar, Cena or bust as far as he's concerned. I truly believe Taker/Cena is for Mania 30 so that leaves Lesnar while he's here. If Taker can't work a match, then the most likely scenario is HHH/Lesnar but only then. Given the story arc that has developed over the past few years with the streak matches, Taker facing Lesnar makes perfect sense and I definitely think that's where we are headed.

As for HHH, he isn't going to be wrestling forever. All you have to do is listen to him talk about it himself. They have officially started the marking of HHH's possible retirement with the Brock match. Considering the fact that he has about 1 or 2 matches a year now, it's easy for them to go keep that going for another 2 years or so. I just don't see HHH/Lesnar happening at all, even with Mayweather being involved and that isn't even confirmed. Again, just because he talked about it doesn't mean it's happening.

[ROGERTHAT21]

Originally Posted by Stone Hot

Take a chill pill broski this just my opinion and what i would like to see happen doesn't mean it will

I'm chill, I was just getting a lot of my reasons out for refuting your argument. Also, your opinion sucks. Just saying.

[Shazayum]

I don't want to see Taker/Lesnar, and I don't want to see Taker/HHH, and I don't want to see HHH/Lesnar. For Taker/Lesnar, I don't think the match would be all that good. Granted they had a great HIAC match together but it would just be very boring now. Taker/HHH would be overdone, and HHH/Lesnar sucks because they'd already done it and it wasn't great. As a matter of fact the only people I'd care to see Taker have a match with at Wrestlemania are Cena and Punk. Cena is the biggest match Taker has left in him.