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Old 10-21-2012, 07:46 AM   #1801 (permalink)
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Default Re: The Rock's title shot at Royal Rumble vs Hogan's in 1993

Who claims Hogan demanded the title?

Could'nt it be that Hogan gave it as suggestion to Vince that he win should win the title from Yoko?

And if Vince fell for the idea, so be it. Hogan got himself a fatter paycheck so waht, he was marketable and still drew.
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:08 AM   #1802 (permalink)
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See the build for Rock/Cena was crap but in a way it probably did help create that reaction when he did beat Cena, more so than if the feud had been done differently.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #1803 (permalink)
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He didn't demand anything. Vince gave it to him because it's good for business.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:19 PM   #1804 (permalink)
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The booking and storyline at Survivor Series 1998 is up there with any angle in history. You just had to listen to the dead silence in the crowd when Rock turned on them. Brilliant. Russo always jumps to say that this is the best work he has ever done. 20k were standing there in complete shock after crazily cheering and chanting for The Rock for months and all that night like never before. They only realized what happened there the next night when Rock came out to mega heat and the clever story of this point was that now the tide has turned and Rock is the one who didn't want them on his side while they were begging to be there, wanting to chant along with him. Which led to the "This is not sing along with The Great One!" catchphrase.

Bossman "losing" in 3 seconds, then "accidentally" throwing the stick to Shamrock, Kane causing a DQ on Taker, Shane screwing Austin in his match with Mankind, and the top of the list, Rock, Shane and Vince revealing the new Corporate WWF champion to close the show when nobody saw it coming. Pure money, the highest drawing title run on the road in history and on his FIRST RAW main event as WWF Champion in the match against Austin, Rock broke the all-time RAW record at that time with a 7.3 against a pretty big Goldberg/Bigelow match on Nitro. The Shakespeare of rasslin'. Booking peaked that night.

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Nothing like The Corporate Champion, his work in HalfTime Heat alone deserves an Oscar. Rock was working title match after title match on RAW, Road Dogg, X-Pac, HHH, Al Snow, Austin, Mankind etc. Week after week main eventing RAW with WWF title matches. Great Rock/Al Snow match with Rock giving a Corporate Elbow to the legendary, revolutionary, iconic...HEAD:





Amazing video. Great match and an iconic moment that will live forever. The reactions on YouTube were worth this year. The Cena kids in that vid deserve a medal for their gold performance, best by far were: "HOW CAN HE LOSE?! He's supposed to be THE BEST CHAMP!!", "I HATTTTE JJOOOOHNNN CCCEEENNAA!!!" . The live stadium footage was awesome. Unforgettable, all-time memorable moment like only The GOAT can create.
It's equally impressive how they booked Mankind during that period. He has those classic hospital scenes with Vince and becomes the loveable jester. Vince screws him over and you have the perfect double turn and set up an amazing feud between 2 polar opposites in Rock and Mankind.

Amazing that so few people saw it coming.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #1805 (permalink)
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So the Rock is apparently competing for the WWE title at Royal Rumble. an former prowrestler turend actor, anoly back for a very few dates.

This makes me think of Hogan in 1993. He got a title shot at Wrestlemania 9, and took the title, despite he was not full time wrestler.


still people who bash Hogan for having a title match in 1993 still seem to have no problem what so ever with the Rock comming in and demanding a title shot at the Rumble...

So my question is... what is the difference?
It doesn't matter tbh. People bashed Hogan and people are bashing Rock. Who cares. Glad your topic got merged with this one.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:26 PM   #1806 (permalink)
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Who claims Hogan demanded the title?

Could'nt it be that Hogan gave it as suggestion to Vince that he win should win the title from Yoko?

And if Vince fell for the idea, so be it. Hogan got himself a fatter paycheck so waht, he was marketable and still drew.
Based on what I have come across on that story, Hogan was wooed back in by Mcmahon as once he left, the company saw a real decline and when he returned he bargained for booking control. In Wrestlemania 9, he was relegated to win tag team titles with Beefcake which did not go along well with him for after all he was a star and a big draw who has been brought back to bring up the revenue and not making him the champion in his comeback was unimaginable to Hogan. Hence the angle was added where he ran in and won the title while the tag match had him disqualified.

Post that, there are two stories. One, Hogan did not want to lose and hand over the belt(again, after Warrior) to Bret Hart considering his size and drawing power and hence chose to lose it to the biggest heel at that time whoever it was from whom Bret can win it. Two, Vince told Bret the above story which Hogan denied to Hart and when these three got together Vince was forced to take back his words about Hogan not willing; according to Bret Hart.

As to why they wanted the belt off Hogan, Hogan was not nodding for any of the storylines proposed, not willing to lose clean, not willing to put people over (namely Hart) and did not appear till KOTR once he realized that Vince wanted Hogan to pass the torch again and not as the perennial maineventer he once was; which Hogan was not ready for as he had already done that with Warrior.

All of the above, are merely stories that I have read from various sources, the absolute truth, Vince/Hogan/Bret alone will know.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:30 PM   #1807 (permalink)
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Bret still holds a grudge with Hogan over that. 19 years later.....
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:38 PM   #1808 (permalink)
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Rock beat Cena cleanly, which is what nobody else on the roster has done, and at this point beating Cena cleanly is probably more of an achievement and more important than winning MITB, because you damn sure get a lot more credibility by beating Cena, so tell me again, why doesn't Rock get a WWE Title shot? And that's only from a kayfabe POV, it's really because Rock is the biggest draw they have and Rock and a WWE title match= money.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:41 PM   #1809 (permalink)
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Who claims Hogan demanded the title?

Could'nt it be that Hogan gave it as suggestion to Vince that he win should win the title from Yoko?

And if Vince fell for the idea, so be it. Hogan got himself a fatter paycheck so waht, he was marketable and still drew.
The difference is, Hogan came out of nowhere at the end of the show and took the title as if he had his own MITB briefcase to cash in. The Rock made a promo about wanting to become champion and considering that he's a big draw and beat Cena clean, he fully deserves his title shot.

I just hope he actually wins it against Punk. Rock jobbing to Punk clean or dirty is a joke and the biggest disgrace in wrestling history should it ever happen.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:45 PM   #1810 (permalink)
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Well you see Rock never got his Rematch after Lesnar beat him in SS02 so under keyfabe Rock still has a shot at the title
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