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Old 04-13-2012, 08:07 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I don't know where you get your information from, but most, if not all of the WWE revenue producing events will be held in Jersey. If you aren't aware, WrestleMania is basically sold to a specific area as a "package" deal. Jersey finalized the deal to bring Mania in next year. New York may play some minor part in the weekend and possibly even host the Raw or Smackdown event following Mania but my guess is Axxess, HOF, WrestleMania, and Raw will all be held in Jersey. That ensures that the hotels, restaurants, stores, workers, cab drivers, etc. in Jersey will reap the revenue benefits of bringing Mania in for the whole week. It would defeat the purpose of the weekend by having events spread throughout 2 different states. While logistically NJ and NY are very close together and easy to get to and from, Jersey got the deal done and it only makes sense that everything will take place within that state's limits. I guess time will tell but I wouldn't count on any of the major WrestleMania activities to take place in NY.

We'll see, I know what I have heard, both from people close to WWE and people who work in NY, and the fact that its being promoted as WWE Wrestlemania NY/NJ obviously means NY is playing JUST as big a roll as NJ. Also if RAW is in NY, HOF is in NY they already have the building set up the only thing they have to do is build a ring, bring in the ramp and flip floor chairs. Like I said we'll see, but I am going to believe people close to WWE, and THAT WORK in NY venues that have been looked at, before I do someone on here.
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Actually, if you look at the picture, it says both NJ AND NY. Must have stuck up a joint production. Definitely holding at least one of the RAW's following Mania or Hall Of Fame at MSG if not both. Would be foolish to advertise New York for Mania 29 if they don't go on to that area.
My guess is the WWE is just capitalizing on the "NY" name. After all, the New York Jets and the New York Giants both play homes games in East Rutherford, New Jersey at MetLife Stadium. So again, if you're counting on any of the events being held in NY I think you're going to be higly dissapointed. As far as I know, New Jersey "bought" Mania next year. It was not a joint effort with NY. Also on the topic of events being held at MSG. MSG is typically very busy during the month of April. You have a possibility of games from the New York Rangers, New York Knicks, as well as multiple concerts. I'm not saying it's entirely possible to find a free day in there, but I think it's unlikely for HOF. My belief is that Met Life Stadium and the Izod Center will be the main focal points of the week's events.[/quote]

Thats why you book now. The NBA/NHL dont release their schedules until the summer and concerts are booked a couple of months in advance so most April concerts wont be booked until October. WWE and MSG have a long standing relationship so for them to come over here and hold huge events at the IZOD center when your MECCA is 6 miles away is foolish.
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We'll see, I know what I have heard, both from people close to WWE and people who work in NY, and the fact that its being promoted as WWE Wrestlemania NY/NJ obviously means NY is playing JUST as big a roll as NJ. Also if RAW is in NY, HOF is in NY they already have the building set up the only thing they have to do is build a ring, bring in the ramp and flip floor chairs. Like I said we'll see, but I am going to believe people close to WWE, and THAT WORK in NY venues that have been looked at, before I do someone on here.
I don't believe anyone close to WWE would've told you anything will be in NY because it goes against their business plan. Again, New Jersey bought next year's WrestleMania. It's a complete package that is bid on. I just don't see revenue, taxes, etc. being split up and divied amongst two different entities. New Jersey is the real host for next year's WM. New York is just in the name.
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My guess is the WWE is just capitalizing on the "NY" name. After all, the New York Jets and the New York Giants both play homes games in East Rutherford, New Jersey at MetLife Stadium. So again, if you're counting on any of the events being held in NY I think you're going to be higly dissapointed. As far as I know, New Jersey "bought" Mania next year. It was not a joint effort with NY. Also on the topic of events being held at MSG. MSG is typically very busy during the month of April. You have a possibility of games from the New York Rangers, New York Knicks, as well as multiple concerts. I'm not saying it's entirely possible to find a free day in there, but I think it's unlikely for HOF. My belief is that Met Life Stadium and the Izod Center will be the main focal points of the week's events.
Thats why you book now. The NBA/NHL dont release their schedules until the summer and concerts are booked a couple of months in advance so most April concerts wont be booked until October. WWE and MSG have a long standing relationship so for them to come over here and hold huge events at the IZOD center when your MECCA is 6 miles away is foolish.[/quote]

It's not only about being close to NYC and MSG. Logistically they are very close and could easily have events in NYC if they wanted to. There is no disagreement with that. This is strictly about business. If you understand the process of what it takes for a city to "get" WrestleMania you would see that it is highly unlikely that there will be any major revenue producing WrestleMania events outside of New Jersey. It would be akin Georgia holding one of the events of this year's Mania. Granted Miami isn't really close to any area of Georgia but it's the theory behind it. When cities bid for big events: Super Bowl, Olympics, etc. they aren't going to share it with a neighboring area. It's just not how it works.
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I don't think so. Would be nice, but it took a huge chunk out of my wallet this year, so 30 hopefully.
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We'll see, I know what I have heard, both from people close to WWE and people who work in NY, and the fact that its being promoted as WWE Wrestlemania NY/NJ obviously means NY is playing JUST as big a roll as NJ. Also if RAW is in NY, HOF is in NY they already have the building set up the only thing they have to do is build a ring, bring in the ramp and flip floor chairs. Like I said we'll see, but I am going to believe people close to WWE, and THAT WORK in NY venues that have been looked at, before I do someone on here.
You don't have to believe me. A simple google search will yield you some results that are not just dirt sheet gossip, mere speculation, or hearsay. I found a nice little tidbit from one of JR's blogs regarding the topic of WM 29 from shortly after the deal was finalized. It seems like he would be a much more of a reliable source than me or you or even the people you say you know that are close to the WWE and work in NY venues. After all, he is a WWE employee and obviously communicates with other WWE employees in the know. And it's just as I've said previously in the other posts. NJ "bought" the WrestleMania package to benefit THEIR economy. This wasn't a joint effort with NY which will still benefit from the all of the events indirectly regardless of where the actual events are being held due to the closeness of the two areas. The way Jim Ross "understands" it is that there will most likely be some media and PR functions held in NYC but Mania, Axxess, and HOF will ALL be held in Jersey. So short of possibly Raw at MSG on that Monday, it really doesn't look likely that NYC will be hosting any of the main WM activities. And I happen to think Raw will be held at the Izod Center because I'm pretty sure that the Raw following Mania is also part of the package deal that New Jersey "bought". What JR said only makes logical sense to me.

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WM29..in New Jersey or New York? Well, the stadium is in Jersey and the state of New Jersey's governor headed the Jersey group to get the deal done. Plus, as I understand it, AXXESS will be held in Jersey as well as the Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony but there will obviously be several NYC media and PR functions/events added to the menu as well. Some folks are confused as to why the Giants and the Jets are called "New York" and not New Jersey teams. Go figure.
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[quote=frankwhite1967;11307214]You don't have to believe me. A simple google search will yield you some results that are not just dirt sheet gossip, mere speculation, or hearsay. I found a nice little tidbit from one of JR's blogs regarding the topic of WM 29 from shortly after the deal was finalized. It seems like he would be a much more of a reliable source than me or you or even the people you say you know that are close to the WWE and work in NY venues. After all, he is a WWE employee and obviously communicates with other WWE employees in the know. And it's just as I've said previously in the other posts. NJ "bought" the WrestleMania package to benefit THEIR economy. This wasn't a joint effort with NY which will still benefit from the all of the events indirectly regardless of where the actual events are being held due to the closeness of the two areas. The way Jim Ross "understands" it is that there will most likely be some media and PR functions held in NYC but Mania, Axxess, and HOF will ALL be held in Jersey. So short of possibly Raw at MSG on that Monday, it really doesn't look likely that NYC will be hosting any of the main WM activities. And I happen to think Raw will be held at the Izod Center because I'm pretty sure that the Raw following Mania is also part of the package deal that New Jersey "bought". What JR said only makes logical sense to me.


Sorry...I don't recall saying someone close to WWE told me IT WAS gonna be in NY, I said someone close to WWE told me they were LOOKING into NY. Also, JR...JR is the same guy that constantly says "No I'm not coming back to announcing even for one match" and the such just to not let the fans know whats coming. THE ONLY THING HE SAYS I Believe is his opinions on the PAST. Not to mention that was from BEFORE This years Wrestlemania many things could have changed. I also never said 100% it was, I said from everything I understood they were LOOKING at NY venues.
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You don't have to believe me. A simple google search will yield you some results that are not just dirt sheet gossip, mere speculation, or hearsay. I found a nice little tidbit from one of JR's blogs regarding the topic of WM 29 from shortly after the deal was finalized. It seems like he would be a much more of a reliable source than me or you or even the people you say you know that are close to the WWE and work in NY venues. After all, he is a WWE employee and obviously communicates with other WWE employees in the know. And it's just as I've said previously in the other posts. NJ "bought" the WrestleMania package to benefit THEIR economy. This wasn't a joint effort with NY which will still benefit from the all of the events indirectly regardless of where the actual events are being held due to the closeness of the two areas. The way Jim Ross "understands" it is that there will most likely be some media and PR functions held in NYC but Mania, Axxess, and HOF will ALL be held in Jersey. So short of possibly Raw at MSG on that Monday, it really doesn't look likely that NYC will be hosting any of the main WM activities. And I happen to think Raw will be held at the Izod Center because I'm pretty sure that the Raw following Mania is also part of the package deal that New Jersey "bought". What JR said only makes logical sense to me.


Sorry...I don't recall saying someone close to WWE told me IT WAS gonna be in NY, I said someone close to WWE told me they were LOOKING into NY. Also, JR...JR is the same guy that constantly says "No I'm not coming back to announcing even for one match" and the such just to not let the fans know whats coming. THE ONLY THING HE SAYS I Believe is his opinions on the PAST. Not to mention that was from BEFORE This years Wrestlemania many things could have changed. I also never said 100% it was, I said from everything I understood they were LOOKING at NY venues.
Ok, but as I originally said I don't believe any one told you that they are even "looking" at NY venues. As I keep saying, unless my understanding of the whole WrestleMania package bidding is incorrect there was never even a thought or possibility of having Axxess or HOF in NYC once New Jersey won the bidding for WM29. Those WrestleMania related events are definitely paired with WrestleMania. If WrestleMania is being held in a certain state I believe Axxess and HOF will also be held in the same state. But may be you know something that no one else does. Maybe a deal was struck that some events could be held in NY. My guess is that didn't happen and we will all eventually find out for sure that all of the events will be in NJ. As per your JR comments, I don't think he's ever said he wouldn't come back to announce even one match. Quite the contrary! He's always talking about how he would love to call certain matches especially at WM. He's made it very clear that it was NOT his decision to remove him from weekly commentary and that it was strictly a WWE management decision to remove him. JR will tell you when he's not sure of something or if he's just guessing or giving you his opinion. But in this particular case by the way he words it, I think it is clear that he was told by someone in the know that "AXXESS will be held in Jersey as well as the Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony but there will obviously be several NYC media and PR functions/events added to the menu as well." He didn't say he was guessing, he didn't say he assumed, and he didn't say he hoped these events will be in NJ. The way he understands it is that they WILL be held there. But again, maybe you know something that none of us do.
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July can't come fast enough. Too excited for next year already.

Also, anyone think that travel packages will sell out slow because of the weather in NYC that time of the year?
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I am absolutely going unless I absolutely positively can't get tickets. It's like an hour drive from my house, and with it being held there I have my doubts about waiting for WM30 since it may not be at MSG. I just got a job, so if I save up I should have more than enough money to get myself a decent seat with my brothers getting a couple for themselves. It'll be awesome.
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