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Old 11-30-2012, 08:01 AM   #931 (permalink)
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I agree that if Punk V Taker does happen, it can't be a theatrical finisher fest like the HHH V Taker matches. It needs to be a psychology driven, technical wrestling match like say Taker V Edge. And as Taker and Punk are two of the best at employing psychology in their matches in terms of selling, facial expressions and timing/placement of specific movies and spots. It should be great.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:16 AM   #932 (permalink)
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The day CM Punk calls the Undertaker 'Mark' on live TV is the day I officially give up on wrestling lol. Dwayne is bad, 'Phil Brooks talking to Paul Levesque' was worse. 'Mark' would just be horrific tbh.

I seem to be in the minority now on the whole Punk/Taker thing but I don't care. I don't want to see the match, I don't think Punk is credible enough no matter how hard they push him between now and then and I'd much rather have Brock/Taker. Besides, I still call BS on these 'reports.' Remember when Taker was supposed to face Kozlov? Remember when he was supposed to face JBL? Remember when he was supposed to face ZOMG ITS STING!! Remember when he was supposed to face Ted DiBiase? Remember when he was supposed to face Wade Barrett? Remember when he was supposed to face Kane? Yeah. Look how that turned out for him. Just last month they were telling us Ryback was the front runner. The dirt sheets are just starting to second guess themselves and are putting out all the options so that when one of them happens they can say we told you so.
And what will that accomplish long term? fuck all. WWE need to make the modern stars relevant to the masses, and a way to do that is to put them in big matches with big opponents at big events. Whats the point in bringing back old stars if you just have them wrestle other old stars who don't appear on T.v? there would be no progression, no moving forward, and when Lesnar and Taker leave it will leave the product cold and stagnant afterwards because all the promotion would of been on them educating the audience that the wrestlers on the current roster aren't important and don't matter.

Should Punk go over Taker? no, fuck no. But the simple fact of him wrestling Taker at Mania will do a hell of a lot for him just like it did Orton, Batista, Edge etc
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If things only lead to Punk/Taker, I'd prefer Taker sit out Wrestlemania this year, get all the way healthy and they give us Taker/Cena at WM 30.
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And what will that accomplish long term? fuck all. WWE need to make the modern stars relevant to the masses, and a way to do that is to put them in big matches with big opponents at big events. Whats the point in bringing back old stars if you just have them wrestle other old stars who don't appear on T.v? there would be no progression, no moving forward, and when Lesnar and Taker leave it will leave the product cold and stagnant afterwards because all the promotion would of been on them educating the audience that the wrestlers on the current roster aren't important and don't matter.

Should Punk go over Taker? no, fuck no. But the simple fact of him wrestling Taker at Mania will do a hell of a lot for him just like it did Orton, Batista, Edge etc
So? I'm being completely selfish when I say that I want to see Brock/Taker because it's probably the last chance I have of getting that match. I don't want to see Punk/Taker. I fully get their need to build stars but looking at the potential matches for Mania this year, I also want to get my money's worth when I buy the PPV. Brock/Taker, to me, is worth my money alone. Punk/Taker? I just don't want to see it and as a consumer, it's not something I would want to pay money for.
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I've seen enough Lesnar-Taker matches to last me a life time. We don't need to see another one.
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I think a Taker-Punk match would probably be great, although I think I'd put my foot through the TV screen if I had to hear Punk referring to him as "Mark" or any of that crap. They would really have to start booking Punk much more strongly (and do so quickly) if he is to be taken seriously as a threat to the streak
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I don't think they need to really, he's been Champion for over a year, he's basically playing the Shawn Michaels heel run of 97/98 and im pretty sure Punk and Taker could draw up a match similar to the ones HBK/Taker had back then and even similar to the two classics at Mania 25 and 26.

Punk's got the shield to make at least one run in and possibly even Brock Lesnar if they wanted.
The previous Punk/Taker matches seriously make me doubt they can put a match on the same level of Taker/HBK.

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The day CM Punk calls the Undertaker 'Mark' on live TV is the day I officially give up on wrestling lol. Dwayne is bad, 'Phil Brooks talking to Paul Levesque' was worse. 'Mark' would just be horrific tbh.
Easy there, champ. Phil isn't above doing it, that's for sure.

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I seem to be in the minority now on the whole Punk/Taker thing but I don't care. I don't want to see the match, I don't think Punk is credible enough no matter how hard they push him between now and then and I'd much rather have Brock/Taker. Besides, I still call BS on these 'reports.' Remember when Taker was supposed to face Kozlov? Remember when he was supposed to face JBL? Remember when he was supposed to face ZOMG ITS STING!! Remember when he was supposed to face Ted DiBiase? Remember when he was supposed to face Wade Barrett? Remember when he was supposed to face Kane? Yeah. Look how that turned out for him. Just last month they were telling us Ryback was the front runner. The dirt sheets are just starting to second guess themselves and are putting out all the options so that when one of them happens they can say we told you so.


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I agree that if Punk V Taker does happen, it can't be a theatrical finisher fest like the HHH V Taker matches. It needs to be a psychology driven, technical wrestling match like say Taker V Edge. And as Taker and Punk are two of the best at employing psychology in their matches in terms of selling, facial expressions and timing/placement of specific movies and spots. It should be great.


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If things only lead to Punk/Taker, I'd prefer Taker sit out Wrestlemania this year, get all the way healthy and they give us Taker/Cena at WM 30.
After adding the same people over, and over, and over, and over and over again for the last 4 Wrestlemanias, I think adding a new face, albeit a small one like Punk, is better than sitting it out and wasting a chance to put a new name to The Streak.

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So? I'm being completely selfish when I say that I want to see Brock/Taker because it's probably the last chance I have of getting that match. I don't want to see Punk/Taker. I fully get their need to build stars but looking at the potential matches for Mania this year, I also want to get my money's worth when I buy the PPV. Brock/Taker, to me, is worth my money alone. Punk/Taker? I just don't want to see it and as a consumer, it's not something I would want to pay money for.
TBH, Brock/Taker has always been an overrated match for me. Their encounters other than in No Mercy have never been good, and people praise the HIAC match only because Taker lost cleanly. It was practically the most praised squash match ever, I didn't even remember Taker actually doing anything that can be called an attack during the last 15 minutes of the match. If Taker vs Lesnar happens now, it will be dull just like Lesnar vs Cena at Backlash this year where Taker will pull out a last minute finisher for the win.

And the build up needs to be addressed too, cause there's no pregnant wife to abuse this time & Taker doesn't wander around in the backstage enough to have his arm broken.

The only way Taker/Lesnar can be close to any of Taker's last 6 Wrestlemania matches is if the promos put them as equals and the match takes a similar fast-paced back & forth approach Taker/Batista did at WM 23 (which is arguably Taker's best match with any big man wrestler ever) and that means Lesnar has to stop using all that MMA bullshit and return to his first wrestling persona as the quick beast (though I think the Kimura Lock can be kept).

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For all your posting on this topic, you seem to have issues with the development of the streak matches tbh. Taker at 5-0 and even 10-0 is not the same as Taker at 18-0 and 20-0. At this stage of the streak, facing Punk is a HUGE step backwards and most people thinking logically will know that.
Then again, we're talking about WWE (and in particular, Vince) here. Since when logical thinking is their strongest suit?

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Old 12-01-2012, 02:44 PM   #937 (permalink)
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Ken Shamrock called Taker 'Mark' on live TV, not once but TWICE.

Why can't Phil do it?
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Ken Shamrock called Taker 'Mark' on live TV, not once but TWICE.

Why can't Phil do it?
Phil can. Nobody said he cannot. They said he shouldn't.
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LOL Starbuck finally beginning to see the light.

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Cause Ken boy doesn't have alias names like Phil.

Real Names > Punk ASS BITCH!
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LOL Starbuck finally beginning to see the light.
What's that supposed to mean lol? See the light about what?
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